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Chewie's Basement Build

Long time lurker. It's about time that I get on with my basement. I decided not to go the "dedicated" home theater route as I like to entertain. I'm planning a very open basement plan with a theater room, a game room, and a home gym.

Here's the plan so far.

- 120" Screen Innovations acoustically transparent screen
- Sony VPL-VW285ES Projector
- Sony STR-ZA2100ES Receiver
- I want a 5.1.4 or surround setup for the theater
- Definitive Technology SM 65's LCR and SM 45's for Rear Surrounds
- I will have a tv in the home gym with two ceiling speakers.

I'm currently getting ready for the rough-in inspection, then I will be starting to run my low voltage wire. I'm planning on running shielded cat 6 (for hdmi over ethernet -- future) to each display as well as hdmi and coax.

I'm really wanting to get started picking out a Receiver, Amp and Speakers, but I'm totally overwhelmed. For the Atmos speakers I'm leaning towards the Sonance (VP64R or VP66R) or the RSL C34E's.

I was going to go with a Sony AV Receiver, but I wasn't sure.

Anyways, any help would be very appreciated.

- Chewie
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Just in case ...
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I like the layout.

I'm happy with my Pioneer receiver and monoprice atmos speakers FWIW.
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Update ... I finished the rough plumbing, electrical, and fire block. Waiting for inspection tomorrow.
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Passed Inspection today!!! I think I'm going to go with the Sony VPL-VW285ES projector. No need to upgrade in a few years.
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Why is the framing raised?
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Why is the framing raised?
I'm willing to bet that has to do with code in his particular part of the country. Probably to allow for expansion/contraction of the foundation.
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I'm willing to bet that has to do with code in his particular part of the country. Probably to allow for expansion/contraction of the foundation.
Yes, that's the code in my area as well, Colorado front range. We have expansive soil but have had no problems so far...knock on wood.

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I like the layout as well, similar to what I did. My bar is built out of 2X4's and drywall, I love it.
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Yes the soil in the area requires the 3" between the bottom plate and the wall. Framing sucked.


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I have a question. I'm trying to dampen the noise from the furnace room on the right in this picture. I was thinking of using Mass Loaded Vinyl under the drywall. Will this make much of a difference?


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I have a question. I'm trying to dampen the noise from the furnace room on the right in this picture. I was thinking of using Mass Loaded Vinyl under the drywall. Will this make much of a difference?


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IMO, your best bet would be to stuff Roxuol Rock Wool (Safe N Sound) insulation between your wall studs, if possible drywall inside the furnace room and then use double drywall and green glue on the theater side. You could include clips and channel to help soundproof more but the double drywall and green glue with insulation should be good enough to block furnace noise.

Do you hear a lot of sound through the vents when the furnace turns on? That would be a different solution.
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IMO, your best bet would be to stuff Roxuol Rock Wool (Safe N Sound) insulation between your wall studs, if possible drywall inside the furnace room and then use double drywall and green glue on the theater side. You could include clips and channel to help soundproof more but the double drywall and green glue with insulation should be good enough to block furnace noise.

Do you hear a lot of sound through the vents when the furnace turns on? That would be a different solution.
Thank you. I'll use the Roxuol Rock Wool (Safe N Sound) in that wall. I may try one layer of drywall first. I don't know if I want to buy a full case of GG for that wall.
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I'm guessing if you are trying to cut down the furnace noise drywall and insulation will serve you well. Give it a try before you tape and mud that first layer of drywall. If you can still hear the furnace, buy some green glue and add another layer of drywall to the shared wall.
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So I'm not an audiophile of any type. In fact I have a little hearing loss in my left ear. I'm really in need of help with deciding on all the speakers. I was looking at the Sonance VP62Rs as I can get them pretty cheap for Atmos, but I'm thinking I should probably pick out my LCR's first. Any advice would be awesome. With the Sony Receiver I just got I'm going to need an AMP to power a pair of the Atmos as well as a second zone. What to do????
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Insulation is done.


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Always good to provide a budget when asking for gear recommendations.
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Always good to provide a budget when asking for gear recommendations.
What's a budget?

No really I'm not a fan of spending a whole ton of money, as is why I'm doing most of the work myself. I really don't want to spend more than $1500 - $2K on speakers.
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For some great value in speakers check out the offerings from Elac, Andrew Jones (Pioneer) and Paradigm.
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Klipsch R-28F Reference 5.1 Channel Home Theater Speaker Package is in that price range on Amazon right now.

Nice layout and you are moving fast.
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Look into SVS as well, love my Prime bookshelf and center speakers, they also have towers. Does your budget include subs or do you have a separate allowance for that?
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Question ... I’m trying to figure out if I really need a stage. Sure for aesthetics it would look cool but it it worth hauling bags of sand and lumber downstairs for looks? Can’t I just put my sub on the floor?


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Your room is coming around swimmingly. Would love to do the same one day. For the stage, I would say no, but I'm no expert on actual theatres..

But are you set on the STR-ZA2100ES as your receiver? You know it can't do 7.1.4 right?

I would get something like the Denon 4300h or 6300h, either can do 7.2.4 (4200 w/ a 2 channel amp)

And...get good speakers! Especially a sub! No use spending 5 grand on receivers and projectors but 1k on 12 subs combined.
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Question ... I’m trying to figure out if I really need a stage. Sure for aesthetics it would look cool but it it worth hauling bags of sand and lumber downstairs for looks? Can’t I just put my sub on the floor?


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The reason I was looking at building a stage was to get the speakers up a little higher for the second row. Not that big a deal if you will just have one row of seats. I also may not use sand,I might just used insulation.

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So I've decided to go forward with the stage after reading this post by granroth. I'm going to need to get my speakers up a bit for a 10"-12" riser for my second row. I was not wanting to drag "a beach" into my basement so I'm just going to use some pink stuff to fill it.

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But are you set on the STR-ZA2100ES as your receiver? You know it can't do 7.1.4 right?
I was told by my Sony Rep that this could do at minimum of 5.1.4. I have a call into him now. I'll let you know how this goes. I did lose some sleep last night because the 2100 is sitting in my dining room (unopened).

I'm going to sell my BMW F800GS to finance my speakers now!

Drywall starts on Monday!!!!

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So I've decided to go forward with the stage after reading this post by granroth. I'm going to need to get my speakers up a bit for a 10"-12" riser for my second row. I was not wanting to drag "a beach" into my basement so I'm just going to use some pink stuff to fill it.


I was told by my Sony Rep that this could do at minimum of 5.1.4. I have a call into him now. I'll let you know how this goes. I did lose some sleep last night because the 2100 is sitting in my dining room (unopened).

I'm going to sell my BMW F800GS to finance my speakers now!

Drywall starts on Monday!!!!
The Sony STR-ZA2100ES will do 5.1.4, but not 7.1.4. The Sony STR-ZA5000ES will do 7.1.4, but you will need an external 2 channel amp to power two of the height speakers. The Denon Denon AVR-X4300H IN-Command is also a 9 channel AVR and will do 7.1.4 with and external 2 channel amp at almost half the cost and a little more power. If you could return it the price difference could help out with the speakers.
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furnace room

For the furnace room, why not double stud it so the vibrations are absorbed by the first wall?


That's how modern construction is done for adjoining apartments to prevent noise from one apartment from going to the other.

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For the furnace room, why not double stud it so the vibrations are absorbed by the first wall?
Yeah, it'll be okay with the drywall and such. Plus, the drywall is going up today.

Question for the masses. So I am trying to decided on speakers. I'm looking at the Def Tech SM65's for LCR and the SM45's for the surround backs. I'm being pushed towards the D9's, but I'm not interested in getting brand spanking new just released speakers.

I'm also leaning towards the dt6.5r for the Atmos. Does anyone have any experience with this type of setup?

Thank you!!
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Drywall installation underway.

I ended up choosing the DefTech SM65’s for LCR and the DefTech SM45’s for Rear Surrounds. I’m still looking for In-Ceiling’s for Atmos.

I haven’t decided on what Sub to get either.

I started the designs for the Stage, Riser, and Dry Bar. I will get started on these after Drywall is taped & textured.

If anyone knows where I can get some Linacoustic RC in Colorado that would be awesome!!

Here’s a random drywall pic ...




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You seem like a handy guy, I built a two micro martys with SI ht-18's powered buy a iNuke6000dsp for under $850. I didn't think I really needed a sub, but now I don't know how I lived without one. If you have no plans of going with possibly more subs in the future, an iNuke3000dsp would save you some money. Go to Musicians Friend and hit chat now, ask for best price of either amp and they will typically give you 20% off. I was able to get my 6000 for $340 shipped
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Great work so far, that framing looks like it was a real pain in the arse.

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