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post #181 of 190 Old 05-30-2008, 10:50 PM
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I finally watched the entire thing in one sitting. I changed my opinion on the BD.

The picture has good depth of field. Solid black levels, the red looks particularly bold. And the detail is great. With Ms. Portman, you can see most of the blemishes on her face. She has a nasty pimple on the top of her head that you can see after she's shaved. The wrinkled faces of most of the actors fare the same The grain spikes at moments, but for the most part the clarity is really good. There's no EE and no DNR at all, it's untouched.
I wasn't disappointed with PQ at all. I'm sure there is room for improvement though.

There aren't a lot of scenes that really need the surrounds. And the action sequences and any scene with serious pontificating do seem to be boosted a bit. I think however did the mix on this was just having a bad day at the time. Some gunshots will want to destroy your sub, while the revolver at the end sounds like a cap gun(I think it has always sounded like that). Sonic detail is good, it's just that the mix is lacking(some of the sounds are prioritized awkwardly). It does have some nice LFE though.

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The PQ is not at all in question here though there is plenty of room for improvement. It's the downgraded 448 Kbps DD AC3 track which sounds inferior to the DD AC3 640 Kbps.

Blu-ray : 340
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The PQ is not at all in question here though there is plenty of room for improvement. It's the downgraded 448 Kbps DD AC3 track which sounds inferior to the DD AC3 640 Kbps.

I guess that's how the companies classify DD+ and DD in Blu-ray? I guess someone was asleep at the wheel. Or they just assumed everyone would listen to the TrueHD, even though it doesn't default to it. WTF??

We don't need a special edition. The BD with TrueHD is great. The only way it could get better is if it had a new audio mix(some weird choices were made).

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I guess that's how the companies classify DD+ and DD in Blu-ray? I guess someone was asleep at the wheel. Or they just assumed everyone would listen to the TrueHD, even though it doesn't default to it. WTF??

Well, most Warner titles that got DD+ at 640kbps on HD DVD also got sonically equal 640kbps tracks on BD. I have no idea why that wasn't the case here, but I also wonder why it's such a big deal when there's a TrueHD track. Yes, I realize quite a few people are affected by that, but you would think that those who demand such perfection from their discs would be capable of playing lossless audio by now. I wonder if Casino Royale and a few other Sony titles got such criticism for their 448kbps tracks.
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That's because the titles with 448 Kbps DD AC3 tracks sounded awesome and not like V.

Blu-ray : 340
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V for Vendetta BD cons list in comparison with the HD DVD

BD 448 Kbps DD AC3 vs HD DVD 640 Kbps DD AC3 - Why the phuk are the foreign language audio tracks encoded at 640 Kbps ?
BD English SDH only vs HD DVD English, English SDH - Who the phuk needs 2 German subtitle streams on an American disc ?

V for Vendetta BD pros list in comparison with the HD DVD

IME ON/OFF feature implemented better on BD than HD DVD. :rock:
Menu design, graphics and loading time on par with HD DVD except for the missing zoom feature.
Clicking on up arrow of the remote control brings the pop up menu which was a norm in HD DVD. Good to see similar intuitive feature on BD.

Blu-ray : 340
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Maybe I'll buy it for my shelf.Excuse dodgy image:
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Off topic and bickering posts removed. Stay on topic, please.

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If anyone wants to see the effect of low bitrates on this movie, there are obvious examples in the scene from 11:00 to 13:00. Macroblocking all over character's faces, particularly their mouths. Not so much the chancellor's giant head, but the officials he's speaking to. Also in wide shots here, characters' movement causes trailing/pulsating. And any time there's a shot showing their heads in front of the screen, Creedy is bordered by big blocks. The PS3 says the bitrates in this scene hover around 4-6Mbps with occasional spikes.

Almost feels more like HD broadcast than HDM.
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Banding is definitely there in the sky line during the overture sequence and the entire picture has this usual filtered Warner look. An excellent movie spoiled by an average to good AV presentation due to the lackluster attitude of WB.

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