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I got $10 in Best Buy certificates that I dont need for anything so I figure I will pick up a new BD movie. I dont buy many BD movies unless they have superior quality over a standard DVD because the ability to instantly cue up a ripped/compressed DVD on my Apple TV without any loading screens trumps the BD quality boost for all but Tier 0 and Tier 1 movies for my preference.

I havnt seen either Yuma or No Country, but heard great things about them. Both are Tier 1 on here. For a blind buy, should I buy either, or neither? Which would have higher replay value?

Does either have forced trailers at the beginning? I boycott any movies that have forced ads.

Or should I just rent the SD DVD of each? Im not the kind of person that rents a DVD to see if he likes it and then buys the BD because that raises the cost of the BD by $4 instead of reducing the cost by $4 in case of a blind buy
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Both have low replay value but IMO Yuma offers more entertainment than NCFOM.

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I own both. Yuma was easier to get into but I really like NCFOM after a couple of viewings. Both have replay value, IMO.

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I'll put in a strong vote for NCFOM Yuma wasn't bad, but just was so implausible to me that it detracted from the film. NCFOM (not to beat a dead horse around here) was, to me, as close to a masterpiece as you'll find in a major motion picture these days. I would be more happy/proud to own that 2-3 years from now than I would be Yuma.
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Yuma had about 11 trailers tacked on the beginning, but has killer sound and a great picture, and an ending that sells out the whole movie. NCFOM simply looks stunning. Sound is okay but not nearly as agressive as Yuma. Probably more replay value from "Men" than Yuma only because of the absurdly stupid ending of Yuma, imo.
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Probably more replay value from "Men" than Yuma only because of the absurdly stupid ending of Yuma, imo.

At least Yuma has an ending.

NC is the superior film and Bardem is awesome. I'll vote for yuma, when most people blind buy they want entertainment, not anything that will make them think to much.

So get Yuma. Better sound . And each performance is solid.

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At least Yuma has an ending.

NC is the superior film and Bardem is awesome. I'll vote for yuma, when most people blind buy they want entertainment, not anything that will make them think to much.

So get Yuma. Better sound . And each performance is solid.

that is silly. NCFOM had a MEANING and the ending provided you that. it is not a no brainer in you face on a silver plater hollywood type of thing however. it makes you think, judge, and ponder. that is all.


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NCFOM had an ending just not one that everyone expected or maybe wanted. Don't get me wrong I liked Yuma but without getting in to spoilers I thought the ending was entirely unbelievable, not to mention implausible character wise given evrything that had occured. The poster had mentioned not wanting tacked on trailers and this had plenty. At least we agree the sound on Yuma is superior, especially if you are set up for 7.1.
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ok this is starting to annoy me


as a film, quality wise, Yuma isnt within 3 classes of NCFOM

if all you care about is eye/ear candy (and an ending that makes no freaking sense), get Yuma

if you want a really good movie, get NCFOM
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that is silly. NCFOM had a MEANING and the ending provided you that. it is not a no brainer in you face on a silver plater hollywood type of thing however. it makes you think, judge, and ponder. that is all.

I agree. I'll put my vote in for NCFOM. Yuma was a really good movie, but for me at least there was something about NCFOM that had me thinking about it for a few days even after a repeat viewing the next day.
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At least Yuma has an ending.

So true....
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that is silly. NCFOM had a MEANING and the ending provided you that. it is not a no brainer in you face on a silver plater hollywood type of thing however. it makes you think, judge, and ponder. that is all.

Now that's silly. It ends the way the book does. There's no deep meaning in NC. It's just an example of superb film making. In fact the last act is nothing but getting the point across that there is evil in the world(ohh).

NC doesn't make you think at all. If you want that watch 2001, Children of Men, Pan's Labyrinth.

There Will Be Blood pulled of the same style NC ending much more effectively.
That's how you end a film.

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This a tuff one! Both are great.. definitely get em both!

But if I had to pick just one, I'd say 3:10 to Yuma.. and this is coming from someone who never liked Westein movies!

This is is just bad ass. I felt it had a slighty better story and ending.. the violence kept you gluded all the way. Yuma also had a better soundtrack.. more action, shooting.. a very detailed soundtrack and a good dose of explosivness to top things off

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Yuma, No country is just trash for teenagers....
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im going to go with ncfom, because yuma to me kind of is just an prettier better sounding typical western. the ending is very MEH.

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I'll put my vote in for Yuma because if this for a blind person, I think they'll appreciate the audio production on it more than the silent scenes of NCFOM. The 7.1 audio is great with 3:10 to Yuma

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So true....

NCFOM had an ending, it just wasn't what you expected, although it makes perfect sense if you listen to many parts of the dialog throughout the movie...

Yuma was somewhat fun and I thought the sound was well done, but I loved NCFOM

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Neither are worth a second viewing.
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Yuma is probably a safer bet.
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I preferred Yuma, but I'm a big Western fan. NC was good too, but I was just more entertained by Yuma. I personally hated the NC ending and actually asked myself "is that it?" when the credits started rolling.
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Yuma. NC is the best movie I'll never watch again. It was great right up until the end.
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Now that's silly. It ends the way the book does. There's no deep meaning in NC. It's just an example of superb film making. In fact the last act is nothing but getting the point across that there is evil in the world(ohh).

NC doesn't make you think at all. If you want that watch 2001, Children of Men, Pan's Labyrinth.

There Will Be Blood pulled of the same style NC ending much more effectively.
That's how you end a film.

Are you kidding me? No Country is sooooooo deep and makes you think VERY hard. It REWARDS multiple viewings. There are so many tiny things that are impossible to catch the first time through.
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Yuma is good but NCFOM is a masterpiece. I also didn't like Yuma's ending.

Call it, friendo.
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Are you kidding me? No Country is sooooooo deep and makes you think VERY hard. It REWARDS multiple viewings. There are so many tiny things that are impossible to catch the first time through.

Thank you!

Comparing 310 to NCFOM is like comparing AVP to 2001

One is basically friday night popcorn fodder, and one is art
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I'm baffled some of you are so confused by the NCFOM ending, it is the only logical ending.

I couldn't see any easy way to set a spoiler tag so I attached my interpretation as a text doc. I know I'm missing an obvious way to do inline spoilers if someone would elaborate...

WARNING, the attached file is a SPOILER for anyone who hasn't seen NCFOM...

 

NCFOMDUH.txt 1.0712890625k . file

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ok this is starting to annoy me


as a film, quality wise, Yuma isnt within 3 classes of NCFOM

if all you care about is eye/ear candy (and an ending that makes no freaking sense), get Yuma

if you want a really good movie, get NCFOM

In your opinion, of course.

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NCFOM was disappointing for a Coen Bros. movie. I really look forward to rewatching their films, I think that's where the true genius of their art comes out.

But NC was so gratuitously violent, I personally don't want to be desensitized to the imagery in it. Granted part of that's attributed to how masterfully the movie is made, but it's so beyond any sort of comic or cartoon-style violence that I find myself questioning whether it's social commentary or merely just another willing participant in what it seems to be trying to say about violence. It's funny because it's almost a great companion piece to Fargo, but at the same time almost its antithesis.

Excellent filmmaking, great acting and cinematography, but I personally can't recommend it to anyone.
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Yuma is a good, not great western with many cliches, but the acting by Bale and Crowe more than made up for its shortcomings. It also has a pretty cool 7.1 audio mix, if you have the capability of hearing it.

I haven't seen NCFOM, but I will tonight.

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