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cnikirk's Avatar cnikirk 06:26 PM 10-01-2008
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Originally Posted by FoxyMulder View Post

Added to the main list.....After seeing your screenshots i actually ordered this at the same time as Iron Man....Got Iron Man real fast but still waiting to take delivery of How The West Was Won.

Hey no fair, I nominated How the West was Won way back
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FoxyMulder's Avatar FoxyMulder 06:36 PM 10-01-2008
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Hey no fair, I nominated How the West was Won way back

Yah and i placed on the nomination list after that....These second votes get it placed onto the main list ( so don't worry i did notice your nomination )
AlexBC's Avatar AlexBC 08:57 PM 10-01-2008
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

What version of Terabithia did you watch ? UK like I did or US ?

Disney / Buena Vista US version
dvdmike007's Avatar dvdmike007 07:19 AM 10-02-2008
Interesting, may be a different print Icon used. I will have to re-watch it
micnic77's Avatar micnic77 02:07 AM 10-09-2008
Yesterday I watched another rental I was very pleased with: The Bucket List
It appeared to me as a highly detailed and unprocessed image so I would like to nominate it.
FoxyMulder's Avatar FoxyMulder 02:59 PM 10-09-2008
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Originally Posted by micnic77 View Post

Yesterday I watched another rental I was very pleased with: The Bucket List
It appeared to me as a highly detailed and unprocessed image so I would like to nominate it.

Added to the nomination list and apologies for being so slow.
No_U-Turn's Avatar No_U-Turn 06:06 AM 10-10-2008
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

May be the only one nominating this for a while but Night Of The Living Dead UK disc is very film like and the best the movie has looked at home

I second NOTLD, watched the UK BD last night. Grain fully intact imo, no processing artefacts imo.

Note that as expected, this looks like you would expect a low-budget production to look like.
FoxyMulder's Avatar FoxyMulder 01:31 PM 10-11-2008
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Originally Posted by No_U-Turn View Post

I second NOTLD, watched the UK BD last night. Grain fully intact imo, no processing artefacts imo.

Note that as expected, this looks like you would expect a low-budget production to look like.

I will add it to the main list.
DangerousK's Avatar DangerousK 12:31 PM 10-14-2008
I'm not ready to nominate it yet, but I've watched maybe 30 mins or so of Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, and it appears to be a faithful reproduction of what I saw in the theater. Grain structure seems to be intact for the most part, and I haven't noticed any DNR or artificial crap thrown in.
micnic77's Avatar micnic77 11:10 PM 10-14-2008
Another candidate for the Digital Camera Film List: Superbad
The encode is flawless with no visible filtering. But the qualitiy seems to be inrelevant for this list, is it?

And in adition to this I want to nominate Ironman since no one bothered to do so. As already known the movie looks amazing.
FoxyMulder's Avatar FoxyMulder 12:42 PM 10-15-2008
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Another candidate for the Digital Camera Film List: Superbad
The encode is flawless with no visible filtering. But the qualitiy seems to be inrelevant for this list, is it?

And in adition to this I want to nominate Ironman since no one bothered to do so. As already known the movie looks amazing.

Yah i'll second the nomination for Ironman and move it to the main list.
gremmy's Avatar gremmy 10:57 PM 10-18-2008
I realize that I may have to give up my "man card," but here's a nomination for Sex in the City. I thought this was one of the best looking movies since Spiderman 3. In particular, the colors were outstanding, flesh colors nicely balanced, contrast superb, film grain and fine detail intact. Aside from the side-shot of Dante's wanker (which I could really have done without) the flick looked great.

The fact that my wife made me watch it should entitle me to keep my man card, Dante's wanker or no. LOL.
BerserkerTails's Avatar BerserkerTails 12:59 AM 10-19-2008
I don't think anyone's done it yet, but I'm nominating Sleeping Beauty. Just watch this tonight and was SUPER amazed by how great it looked. I'm not even going to try to figure otu how Disney did it, but they cleaned up the movie gooood, and even though its crystal clean looking, it never looks digital.
Oliver Klohs's Avatar Oliver Klohs 01:54 AM 10-19-2008
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The fact that my wife made me watch it should entitle me to keep my man card, Dante's wanker or no. LOL.


Your wife could make you watch it ? Your are digging a deeper and deeper hole for yourself
hastic plank's Avatar hastic plank 06:21 AM 10-19-2008
i don't know if anyone else has (seen) it, but the german blu-ray of Chinjeolhan geumjassi (Sympathy for Lady Vengeance) looks very, very good. it doesn't have english subtitles though so i guess that's a big put-off for most non-htpc folks.

it's a ~17.5mbit vc1 transfer which is miles ahead the oldboy bd in terms of detail, though the lack of detail in oldboy is probably master-related. it's also sharp as a tack without any intrusive ee and not even a hint of dnr.

i haven't watched it through yet but have checked it out extensively and it has a ton of fine grain which seems to stay intact nicely. i did see a couple scenes where the grain does fall apart a bit but that's a minor fault given how gorgeous it looks the rest of the time.

all in all, e-m-s did a very fine job on it, and the quality of the transfer is only surpassed by the quality of the movie
hastic plank's Avatar hastic plank 07:03 AM 10-19-2008
a couple screens from the lady vengeance bd



direct caps, not camera shots
FoxyMulder's Avatar FoxyMulder 08:14 AM 10-19-2008
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Originally Posted by gremmy View Post

I realize that I may have to give up my "man card," but here's a nomination for Sex in the City.

The fact that my wife made me watch it should entitle me to keep my man card, Dante's wanker or no. LOL.

I used to watch the series on television....Enjoyed it too...I'll add it to the nomination list.


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I don't think anyone's done it yet, but I'm nominating Sleeping Beauty. Just watch this tonight and was SUPER amazed by how great it looked. I'm not even going to try to figure otu how Disney did it, but they cleaned up the movie gooood, and even though its crystal clean looking, it never looks digital.

We don't have a list for animated titles....I do have this one coming though...I'll enjoy it as i like Disney but i am concerned about the way they scrub all the film like elements away from their older releases and indeed even newer releases like Nightmare Before Christmas in order to make them look like crystal new and grain free and in the process alter the color timings ( yes i know how they do it and why they do it but it still concerns me a little and i sometimes wonder if they should try to keep it film like as it would have had a very fine grain structure at the cinema ) Anyways thats for another thread as this one doesn't do animated titles.

Check out these places where you will see some are less happy with the transfer and how the original work has been altered...

http://forums.goldenagecartoons.com/...t=11953&page=4

http://whiggles.landofwhimsy.com/




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Originally Posted by hastic plank View Post

i don't know if anyone else has (seen) it, but the german blu-ray of Chinjeolhan geumjassi (Sympathy for Lady Vengeance) looks very, very good. it doesn't have english subtitles though so i guess that's a big put-off for most non-htpc folks.

i haven't watched it through yet but have checked it out extensively and it has a ton of fine grain which seems to stay intact nicely. i did see a couple scenes where the grain does fall apart a bit but that's a minor fault given how gorgeous it looks the rest of the time.

I'll add it to the minor issues list....Have made a comment that in a few scenes there is minor noise reduction with regards to the scenes where the grain falls apart....If you know the technical term for whats happening with this release let me know i'll change the wording.


I will also add a second vote for Concordes German release of Silent Hill and add to the main list....One of the most detailed releases out there.
hastic plank's Avatar hastic plank 09:33 AM 10-19-2008
it's not really noise reduction but rather that the transfer fails to retain the grain.. probably due to insufficient bitrate
gremmy's Avatar gremmy 09:52 AM 10-19-2008
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Your wife could make you watch it ? Your are digging a deeper and deeper hole for yourself

I guess I could rephrase that to say that I "chose" to watch it as a courtesy to my lovely wife, who is always willing to watch whatever movie I happen to put in my Blockbuster queue.
Rob Tomlin's Avatar Rob Tomlin 10:22 AM 10-19-2008
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Originally Posted by gremmy View Post

I realize that I may have to give up my "man card," but here's a nomination for Sex in the City. I thought this was one of the best looking movies since Spiderman 3. In particular, the colors were outstanding, flesh colors nicely balanced, contrast superb, film grain and fine detail intact. Aside from the side-shot of Dante's wanker (which I could really have done without) the flick looked great.

The fact that my wife made me watch it should entitle me to keep my man card, Dante's wanker or no. LOL.

Hehe.

I watched it last night with my wife as well. The movie wasn't really what I was expecting overall. It wasn't terrible (but not great either).

In any event, I agree with your comments on the PQ. Very natural and, yes, "film like".

I will second your nomination.....even if it means that I too must give up my "man card".
FoxyMulder's Avatar FoxyMulder 12:22 PM 10-19-2008
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Hehe.

I watched it last night with my wife as well. The movie wasn't really what I was expecting overall. It wasn't terrible (but not great either).

In any event, I agree with your comments on the PQ. Very natural and, yes, "film like".

I will second your nomination.....even if it means that I too must give up my "man card".

You are actually comfortable with your sexuality if you admit it so you are more of a man now

I'll add it to the main list.
42041's Avatar 42041 11:48 PM 10-20-2008
i was looking at blu-ray.com's reviews, and noticed this on their review of "The 7th Voyage of Sinbad"...
http://images.blu-ray.com/reviews/681_2_large.jpg
ive never seen this movie and have no idea what its supposed to look like, but that looks like an unfortunate amount of edge enhancement ringing around the monster's shoulder... blech
(and predictably, not a mention of it in the review)
FoxyMulder's Avatar FoxyMulder 07:11 AM 10-21-2008
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i was looking at blu-ray.com's reviews, and noticed this on their review of "The 7th Voyage of Sinbad"...
http://images.blu-ray.com/reviews/681_2_large.jpg
ive never seen this movie and have no idea what its supposed to look like, but that looks like an unfortunate amount of edge enhancement ringing around the monster's shoulder... blech
(and predictably, not a mention of it in the review)

That might just be part of the optical process and not EE....In a lot of those films they used back projection type screens where the actor is in the foreground and maybe it's not EE ( I don't know but just guessing )
Josh Z's Avatar Josh Z 10:44 AM 10-21-2008
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That might just be part of the optical process and not EE....In a lot of those films they used back projection type screens where the actor is in the foreground and maybe it's not EE ( I don't know but just guessing )

You're absolutely right. That doesn't look like edge enhancement caused by electronic sharpening. It looks like color fringing caused by the old-fashioned blue screen compositing.
DangerousK's Avatar DangerousK 11:31 AM 10-21-2008
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

You're absolutely right. That doesn't look like edge enhancement caused by electronic sharpening. It looks like color fringing caused by the old-fashioned blue screen compositing.

It's definitely not edge enhancement.

You can see the outline is blue.
42041's Avatar 42041 11:37 AM 10-21-2008
that's good I guess. Some of the other shots look a bit suspect too, but I'm not familiar enough with old school cinema to know either way.
FoxyMulder's Avatar FoxyMulder 10:11 AM 10-23-2008
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

You're absolutely right. That doesn't look like edge enhancement caused by electronic sharpening. It looks like color fringing caused by the old-fashioned blue screen compositing.

Thanks for piping in......I notice these things sometimes on a lot of old movies with stop motion backgrounds so i guess it's just part of the way they are filmed....I wonder if they have the technology to "clean that up" or whether it'll always be that way.
musick's Avatar musick 11:22 PM 10-24-2008
how is Eyes Wide Shut not on this list or discussed??!!
FoxyMulder's Avatar FoxyMulder 07:39 AM 10-25-2008
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how is Eyes Wide Shut not on this list or discussed??!!

No ones nominated it yet.

Do you wish to nominate it ?
AlexBC's Avatar AlexBC 10:59 AM 10-25-2008
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how is Eyes Wide Shut not on this list or discussed??!!

Hum, maybe because it has plenty of DNR applied to it?
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