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Who cares anyway it's not the unrated versions.
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The Unrated is Overrated.
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They have region locked Reservoir dogs that is a Quentin Tarantino film so is kill bill so it might be locked, kill bill is a miramax film most of miramax film are region free.

But the US BD of Reservoir Dogs was by Lionsgate, whereas Kill Bill is distributed by Buena Vista. Judging from BVHE's history I don't see any reason to think it would be locked.

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anyone know whatever happened to the "Whole bloody affair" edition?
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The Unrated is Overrated.

This is very true. Since The Whole Bloody Affair is looking like vaporware at this point, I'm likely to pick these up when they come out on Blu-ray. While I'd choose unrated over rated given the choice, the differences just aren't that important.

And to be honest... I didn't like the whole torture scene in the trunk in the unrated version. It took away a lot of my sympathy for The Bride. And even if that was intended, it definitely soured my opinion of the film a bit. I would like to have the tea house sequence in color - but turning it black and white there was a very cool thing to me for the nostalgia it dragged up for old kung fu movies I used to watch on tv late at night.
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anyone know whatever happened to the "Whole bloody affair" edition?

Disney doesn't have the rights to it, Weinstein does.

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As Disney just recycled the terrible years old Gangs Of New York transfer for the BD, will they do the same with the Kill Bill's...?

Probably so, but considering how good the broadcast looks, we should be okay.

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The TNT broadcast looked pretty good, imo.
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The TNT broadcast looked pretty good, imo.

Agreed. I was very impressed.

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So there are none in the wild yet , kind of worry some, BUT when do the review websites get copies and review them?
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But the US BD of Reservoir Dogs was by Lionsgate, whereas Kill Bill is distributed by Buena Vista. Judging from BVHE's history I don't see any reason to think it would be locked.

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Probably so, but considering how good the broadcast looks, we should be okay.

Cool, David! I haven't seen it. I just remember the original DVD wasn't great and thought that like with "Gangs" they might have just recycled that old transfer.



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Cool, David! I haven't seen it. I just remember the original DVD wasn't great and thought that like with "Gangs" they might have just recycled that old transfer.


Yes, the DVDs were quite poor - especially the first movie. When I caught the HD broadcast several months back I kept thinking how did the DVDs look so poor - but the same could be said for Pirates - Black Pearl. Maybe the DVDs came from a different master, or maybe someone just really screwed up the process or downconverting of them. If the BDs are screwed up Disney better get ready for the hate mail.

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Disney has yet to disappoint in the video transfer department.

It is unfortunate that this will likely become a double dip as the "Whole Bloody Affair" has already been released in Japan and will likely be eventually released in the US to make some extra $$$ for Weinstein and Co.
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These aren't typically director type decisions, they are usually studio/distributor decisions.

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Disney has yet to disappoint in the video transfer department.

It is unfortunate that this will likely become a double dip as the "Whole Bloody Affair" has already been released in Japan and will likely be eventually released in the US to make some extra $$$ for Weinstein and Co.

I've been trying to find "Whole Bloody Affair" in various Japanese online stores without luck. All I can find are Kill Bill 1 & 2 uncensored. Is that what you meant?!!

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I may have mentioned this, but Texas Instruments thought enough of the image quality of Kill Bill that they used part of it for basically their coming out party for consumer 3 chip DLP at CEDIA a few years ago. I believe the screen was 15' wide and I (and some others) thought it looked incredible. I believe they were running it from a D5 tape based on a conversation I had with somebody working the demo.

On the Smart People BD there is an extra about movies from Miramax and it shows short clips from different Miramax movies. They go pretty fast, but I was struck with how much cleaner the KB clips looked than most. I don't know if they were DNRed, but in that little run through they looked better to my eyes than most of the material around them.

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Say what?! What panet are you living on?

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I've been trying to find "Whole Bloody Affair" in various Japanese online stores without luck. All I can find are Kill Bill 1 & 2 uncensored. Is that what you meant?!!

He is confused. The Japanese theatrical cut of the first movie has the House of Blue Leaves fight scene in full color, with a few extra bits of violence sprinkled in. That cut is available on DVD in Japan, and I'm sure that's what he's referring to.

The "Whole Bloody Affair" consolidated re-edit is still vaporware at this point.

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He is confused. The Japanese theatrical cut of the first movie has the House of Blue Leaves fight scene in full color, with a few extra bits of violence sprinkled in. That cut is available on DVD in Japan, and I'm sure that's what he's referring to.

The "Whole Bloody Affair" consolidated re-edit is still vaporware at this point.

I agree. TWBA is, at this point, vaporware. It's been hinted at since 2007 but has not materialized and might not ever see the light of day.

It doesn't change the fact that the $39 Kill Bill Blu-Ray box set will probably be the absolute best presentation of these films outside of the theater for at least the next several years.
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Vaporware in that hasn't been created, or put on a disc? Because is was shown at a film festival, so the cut exists.

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Vaporware in that hasn't been created, or put on a disc? Because is was shown at a film festival, so the cut exists.

Yes, it was shown once. At Cannes.
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Yes, it was shown once. At Cannes.

That's true, and we do have information about the differences (which don't honestly seem to be as epic as often portrayed) here;

http://tarantino.info/wiki/index.php..._Bloody_Affair

You will notice for example that the entire 2nd episode is basically intact with no changes, most of the changes consist of more gore and longer sequences, etc, that were changed to get down from an NC17 rating.

I'm sure that the new cut would/will be entertaining, but the 1st and 2nd movie do stand fairly well on their own, especially if viewed as a set... much like watching all 3 LOTR extended versions, but with less bathroom breaks.
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Disney has yet to disappoint in the video transfer department.

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It is unfortunate that this will likely become a double dip as the "Whole Bloody Affair" has already been released in Japan and will likely be eventually released in the US to make some extra $$$ for Weinstein and Co.

Its NOT a double dip when its two different films from two different companies.

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The Cannes cut & "TWBA" are two different animals.
"TWBA" has been in the rumor mill since '04.
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WRONG!

Its NOT a double dip when its two different films from two different companies.

Even if Disney had nothing but 5-star rated movies there would still people saying that there was a crap transfer here or there. The reality is that on the whole the transfers from Disney and Buena have been excellent, they really do seem to care about PQ, at least on their higher grossing projects. I highly doubt that they are going to release a sub-par transfer on KB when it stands to sell quite well to the enthusiast crowd.

Your 2nd statement is particularly humorous since we don't yet know what the differences will be. If I buy the Criterion edition of a film I already own on DVD as a standard release, I still consider it a double dip. If you don't then that's your prerogative but I doubt you will find many who agree with you.
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On the Smart People BD there is an extra about movies from Miramax and it shows short clips from different Miramax movies. They go pretty fast, but I was struck with how much cleaner the KB clips looked than most. I don't know if they were DNRed, but in that little run through they looked better to my eyes than most of the material around them.

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What other Buena Vista blu-rays is that promo on?
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He is confused. The Japanese theatrical cut of the first movie has the House of Blue Leaves fight scene in full color, with a few extra bits of violence sprinkled in. That cut is available on DVD in Japan, and I'm sure that's what he's referring to.

The "Whole Bloody Affair" consolidated re-edit is still vaporware at this point.

Cool thanks Josh. I picked up the Japanese Uncut DVDs last night on eBay and will wait for the TWBA when/if it ever appears on blu.

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Your 2nd statement is particularly humorous since we don't yet know what the differences will be. If I buy the Criterion edition of a film I already own on DVD as a standard release, I still consider it a double dip. If you don't then that's your prerogative but I doubt you will find many who agree with you.

I think you and Big Ed have different opinions on what a "double dip" is. You're looking at it from your own point-of-view of having to buy a movie twice, whereas Big Ed is looking at it from the studios' point-of-view. I would agree with Big Ed, a "double dip" is a studio trying to make more money off of a product you already purchased from them. If the second product is released by a different studio, then it may be your "double dip", but it's that studio's "first dip".
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