Originally Posted by RobertR
Depends on what you mean by "great". For many of us, "great" means "an extremely faithful reproduction of the original film". For others (including you, apparently) "great" means "a nice, clean, scrubbed HD video look that need not be faithful to the original film".
You see, this issue of semantics is exactly what I was referring to in my comment.
Compared to any of the previous releases of Patton on any format, this Blu-ray edition looks FAR from terrible...in fact it looks GREAT.
The problem is that it should look FANTASTIC. Unfortunately, because of the DNR and EE, it merely looks GREAT.
To anyone who considers themselves true videophiles and film lovers, GREAT is unacceptable if FANTASTIC is possible.
I was arguing the point that anyone who says Patton looks terrible is being far to judgemental and not being fair to what is actually there, and it is this reason why this discussion has become so heated. Anyone with eyes in their heads should look at those screenies and say "wow, that's a gorgeous image!"
But...they should also realize that this image, great as it looks compared to all the other versions shown, in fact should be MUCH, MUCH better because it is missing detail that has been spoiled by severe post-processing.
If you think these Blu-ray screenies look terrible, then I think you're being far too anal. On the other hand if you are disappointed because, as good as the new transfer looks, the transfer should not have been mutilated by DNR and EE, and would have been immeasurably better if it wasn't, then you are completely justified in saying so, IMO.
J6P, who doesn't know any better, would look at these screenies and say you're crazy if you try to tell them these Blu-ray images look "despicable" (hence the arguing in this thread). What they need to be told is not that they loo terrible (which they don't), but they are not true to the original master and have been tampered with. A much better transfer is possible and should have been released instead of this one.
Raise a stink with FOX if you have a problem with it...I'm all for that. This movie deserves to be seen in the best possible transfer, and the present one ISN'T it. But don't try to tell people this transfer looks terrible.