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post #31 of 650 Old 06-30-2008, 10:41 AM
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I bet they will do what they did to Patton and screw it up. Hopefully Copolla prevented them from DNR'ing the whole thing. I will not be pre-ordering this. I'll stick with my grainy DVD box set's aged picture and rent this one to try it out first.
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This makes me so damn happy, id easily pay 200 for this. The Godfather is one of my 3 favorite movies of all time
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Why isn't the third one going to have the same audio?

They just mean that unlike parts I and II, the third film will not have a mono track, since it was never mixed for mono to begin with.

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I bet they will do what they did to Patton and screw it up. Hopefully Copolla prevented them from DNR'ing the whole thing. I will not be pre-ordering this. I'll stick with my grainy DVD box set's aged picture and rent this one to try it out first.

Nope this one's coming out good as Robert A Harris has been working on it's restoration and he already spoke out against Patton and The Longest Day.
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As the 'restored' transfers have already made their way to Europe on DVD recently, maybe someone can comment on how they look. Would let us know what to expect when the BDs arrive. Looking at the screenshots posted in this Spanish review and in this French review, it looks like grain/detail is intact. But, hard to judge from those screenshots.

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Is Robert Harris involved in the Blu-ray mastering? Completely separate issue from the film restoration.

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I bet they will do what they did to Patton and screw it up. Hopefully Copolla prevented them from DNR'ing the whole thing. I will not be pre-ordering this. I'll stick with my grainy DVD box set's aged picture and rent this one to try it out first.

Considering that one of the most vocal anti-DNR transfer professionals (at least on the forum) is restoring the film, there's nothing to worry about. IIRC, the European DVDs that are already using this new transfer have no discernible DNR.
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Is Robert Harris involved in the Blu-ray mastering? Completely separate issue from the film restoration.

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The HD master was created from the fully restored 4k data files.

The direction given from day one by both Mr. Coppola as well as Mr. Willis was that grain structure remain inviolable.

We did not tamper with or change the grain structure in any way, with the exception of bringing dupes into line with the look of the originals. This is transparent to the restoration.

Paramount Pictures, from post-production to the technical arena of home video, has been totally on board and exceptionally cooperative to this end. They have worked extremely hard with us toward the creation of what we all hope will be a perfect product.

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It has been our unified goal, especially in terms of overall resolution, grain structure and black levels which are, as designed, extremely deep, that the Blu-ray release be as close as humanly and technologically possible, to a virtual reproduction of the cinema experience.

The high definition master has been approved by everyone involved, and the resultant Blu-ray discs may well be the new gold standard by which home theater viewing systems will be judged, especially in the reproduction of Mr. Willis' shadows and blacks.

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Studios typically don't dumb down/DNR releases for Europeans; it's usually for U.S.

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Considering that one of the most vocal anti-DNR transfer professionals (at least on the forum) is restoring the film, there's nothing to worry about. IIRC, the European DVDs that are already using this new transfer have no discernible DNR.

From the man himself:
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...ml#post3397028

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...and Sofia Copolla taken out and replaced by someone else. I'm fond of her as a director now, but she wasn't right in the film. Come to think of it, the script could be improved as well with a little better dialogue and some of Pacino's hammy acting/dialogue excised.

On its own, part III rates about a B/B+ for me, but parts I and II are A+ gold.

Agreed on Sofia Coppola. She was bad to the point of distraction. I recall reading somewhere that Winona Ryder was originally cast as Michael Corleone's daughter, but she was injured in a horse riding accident or something and Coppola decided to put his daughter in. BIG mistake.
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Hasn't Zoetrope Screwed the pooch with DNR on a couple of releases, Dracula comes to mind. Hope they don't do it with the Godfather Trilogy.

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Hasn't Zoetrope Screwed the pooch with DNR on a couple of releases, Dracula comes to mind. Hope they don't do it with the Godfather Trilogy.

Read the news from the restoration team a couple posts up.

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Here is one of the first screenshoots of godfather, colortimed by Copolla himself.

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Hasn't Zoetrope Screwed the pooch with DNR on a couple of releases, Dracula comes to mind. Hope they don't do it with the Godfather Trilogy.

Jorge

There is no DNR on Dracula....It has had things changed which a number of AVS members dislike but it has no DNR or EE applied to it.
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Great news. This is an easy pre-order.
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There is no DNR on Dracula....It has had things changed which a number of AVS members dislike but it has no DNR or EE applied to it.

exactly
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Go ahead and charge me the arm and the leg Paramount, I don't need them anymore anyway.
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Go ahead and charge me the arm and the leg Paramount, I don't need them anymore anyway.

You only need eyes and ears, really .

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Wunderbar! I will be pre-ordering then. Thanks for all the good info!
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I'm definitely going to be broke in September. I'm going to open a new savings account specifically for my September purchases.

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This is great news. Surely this will be done correctly. I give up on BD if these movies are DNR'd.
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I cant believe how expensive September is turning out to be!!! What a freakin fall we are gonna have on Blu!!!!
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Does anybody else wish they would've left off the blue trim at the top of the box cover?



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Does anybody else wish they would've left off the blue trim at the top of the box cover?

It does hinder the otherwise classy design. But hey, it's just a box at the end of the day.
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I like what Sony did with the Close Encounters box, but oh well. It's what's on the disc that matters.

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I wish they gave us seamless branching like in Close Encounters and give us the extended editions which were recut for television as well as the original cinema versions of the first two movies.

Perhaps the extra footage hasn't een restored though and just the theatrical footage.
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I wish they gave us seamless branching like in Close Encounters and give us the extended editions which were recut for television as well as the original cinema versions of the first two movies.

Perhaps the extra footage hasn't een restored though and just the theatrical footage.

they have to leave something for the eventual double-dip
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Great news, two great films, not so great price. Call me at $60.

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...and Sofia Copolla taken out and replaced by someone else. I'm fond of her as a director now, but she wasn't right in the film. Come to think of it, the script could be improved as well with a little better dialogue and some of Pacino's hammy acting/dialogue excised.

On its own, part III rates about a B/B+ for me, but parts I and II are A+ gold.

Actually, I'm sure that Coppola would prefer to simply remake the movie -- in his own time, with his own rewritten script and several cast changes. Sofia was unfairly treated as she was a quick substitute for a suddenly unavailable Winona Ryder (shopping, anyone?).
But let's wish that the amazing, still-working 92-year-old Eli Wallach would repeat his wonderful work.
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I am very happy Paramount has decided to place the extras on a separate disc. At around three hours each, Paramount needs every bit of a BD-50 available. A DNR free transfer with heavy grain is harder to compress.
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