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Of course

Just busy watching some other Blu-rays. Some of them are almost 3 hours long

My GOD 3 hours long, well I better tell my FATHER about that ....

I hope its a 3 way if I am right, the OG dvd's and then the later then BRD
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So I finally watched this tonight and I get the extreme viewpoints now.

This movie is like being dropped into the most tense moments of The Wire without having any introduction to the characters or the plot. This leads to dialog and acting that feel incredibly awkward the first time you watch it. The whole movie just felt... wrong... up until half-way through the first scene in Cuba. By that time I had finally adjusted to the style.

It's a very off-putting movie at first brush and I totally get why a lot of people hate it. I ended up liking it in the end and I think I could end up liking it a whole lot upon subsequent viewings.

Mann definitely experimented with this movie. Filming everything in video at a video frame rate sometimes made it feel like a home movie or an episode of Cops instead of a Hollywood movie. This was an attempt to make the movie feel more real but sometimes it just made it feel amateurish, even though the image was in high definition and filmed by professionals. While it was an admirable attempt, it led to an effect somewhat like what's described as the Uncanny Valley in computer graphics. When it feels so real in one moment, when the illusion is broken, it breaks hard.

What I'm saying is that the style in which this movie was filmed made suspension of disbelief very difficult just because it's so different from anything else out there right now. And the way the movie opened didn't help any, as everyone seemed incredibly tense and depressed through at least the first forty minutes and because the characters were never introduced properly it was almost impossible to connect with them until half-way through the movie.

On the technical side, the video was just flat-out spectacular and the sound was great as well. To those who complained about the sound of the gunfire in this movie: You are wrong. You're too used to the cooked sound effects in Hollywood action movies. These were the sounds that the guns actually make and especially in that final confrontation, that's the way a firefight actually sounds.

Overall, I'd say that Miami Vice is a flawed experiment that grows on you. It's a good movie - after you've already seen it once and you've connected with the characters.
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Well, if you want End Of Days and U-571 it already is

didnt want end of days, i noticed the 3pack also. actually just picked up u571 and miami vice at fry's, 13.99 each.
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Of course

Just busy watching some other Blu-rays. Some of them are almost 3 hours long

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Any of them have completely naked Asian gals?

said 3-hour long movie must be godfather 2.

as for naked asian gals, i'm not sure if any of the current movies available from via import from hong kong have them. i know there's some brief ones in SPL, and there's always Lust, Caution.

edit: i see dvdmike caught the 3-hour movie comment also.
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Gong Li is in the John Cusack - Chow Yun Fat movie "Shanghai" which is coming out this year! Plus I didn't know she was in Curse of the Golden Flower...I 'll have to move that up to my must watch soon list!
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Gong Li is in the John Cusack - Chow Yun Fat movie "Shanghai" which is coming out this year! Plus I didn't know she was in Curse of the Golden Flower...I 'll have to move that up to my must watch soon list!

bad makeup imo for her on that one, she looks damn good in Memoirs of a Geisha tho.
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bad makeup imo for her on that one, she looks damn good in Memoirs of a Geisha tho.

Damn! Another movie that I have on blu-ray and have yet to watch!
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gong li is in the john cusack - chow yun fat movie "shanghai" which is coming out this year! Plus i didn't know she was in curse of the golden flower...i 'll have to move that up to my must watch soon list!

2009.
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nice shot Xylon!
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This Blu-ray just looks frakking great.

Back off man, I'm a scientist.
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I enjoyed this film, own it on DVD and want to upgrade to BR but I couldn't find it anywhere in the PQ tier thread.

Can anyone provide some comments on the unrated director's edition (2006)? I can get either BR version here in New Zealand but I'm unsure which to go for. I assume the transfer for both BR versions is identical?

Thanks!
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Can't comment on the transfers, but I think the original cut is better just for the way the opening throws you right into the middle of a chaotic scene and asks you to suspend comprehension for a few minutes. The alternate version ("director's edition" is misleading, Mann had final cut on both versions) has a long and pointless boat race before getting to the club. The only other major changes I remember are an extra scene with Tubbs' girlfriend and moving "In the Air Tonight" into the final showdown instead of using it over the credits -- not a good change IMO, since I hate that cover and it's used pretty artlessly. There's a bunch of inconsequential little changes too, a lot of which I honestly think were done to make the extended cut seem more different than it actually is.
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Remember though that Mann has a habit of tinkering with the cuts of his movies, Manhunter for example seems to have appeared in a bewildering variety of different cuts - so it is not unusual for him to release different versions of Miami Vice.
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Oh, I know, but billing the extended cut as the "Director's Edition" (as Universal did with Vice) implies that the theatrical cut somehow wasn't a director's edition, which wasn't true in this case.
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You can (as I did with HD-DVD) buy the Uk disc as its the theatrical cut and the US and have both cuts with the same picture quality on both discs
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Can anyone provide some comments on the unrated director's edition (2006)? I can get either BR version here in New Zealand but I'm unsure which to go for. I assume the transfer for both BR versions is identical?

I would go for both. I just can't imagine not having the two cuts of the film.

It's one of my favorites!

The encodes are similar, but not the same of course (though the transfer is the same, much like the HD-DVD also uses the same transfer but different encoding).
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http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies...32&show=review
this is one of the rare very positive reviews of the film and I agree
imho it"s a masterpiece in the cop/bad guys genre. very realistic
it has it's place right next to HEAT !
it's not for kiddies or the 24 "Pixar" public
it's for grown up who are interested in the "other" world.
(a real one too).
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speaking of Mann, WHERE IS THE KEEP ????
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This was shot on a viper cam right?

Does anyone know if they shoot this in nativ 16:9 or directly in 2.37 ???
OR
Is there a Open Matte Version of the Film available?

Thanks a Lot!
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This was shot on a viper cam right?

Does anyone know if they shoot this in nativ 16:9 or directly in 2.37 ???



Good question, the Viper can shoot with 1920*1080 with both 1.77:1 and 2.39:1 ratio due to its overdimensioned CCDs (1920*3240) or something like that.

But there is the advantage of shooting 1.77:1 and reframe in post. Also add that the movie was also shoot on S35(4:3) and F900(16:9) maybe they found it easier to use 1.77:1 as a mastering format.

Good movies are as rare as an on topic discussion.
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