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thanks but this looks like a rental only for me...I hear the movie itself is nothing special...I want to rent it primarily for the reference DTS-HD audio which I hear is one of the best ever on the Blu-ray format (this and Transformers: Age of Extinction are said to be amazing in the audio department)
Second that .. from what I've read, the LFE should remove any residual dust from my 7.2 system ..

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Second that .. from what I've read, the LFE should remove any residual dust from my 7.2 system ..
It seems that there isn't a lot of films with solid LFE tracks these days.

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It seems that there isn't a lot of films with solid LFE tracks these days.

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Especially not in the really, really low registers .. I read "Godzilla" purportedly has as low as a 20 Hz roar, which in many cases, including my hearing .. is felt and not heard ..

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Especially not in the really, really low registers .. I read "Godzilla" purportedly has as low as a 20 Hz roar, which in many cases, including my hearing .. is felt and not heard ..
I'm waiting to see how it matches up on the new master list of bass in movies thread, which you can find at my old hunting grounds, the subwoofer forum.


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anybody know which movie studios have the 28 day delay for Redbox/Netflix etc...tried searching online but it's not clear...some articles state that in 2012 Warner Bros. changed the terms to a 56 day delay...but then others say that Redbox decided to buy the discs on their own through 3rd party sources so the delay is no longer in effect...but then I see titles like Godzilla with a 28 delay on Redbox so I'm confused...anyone know the current terms that Netflix, Redbox have in regards to new movie releases from individual studios?
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anybody know which movie studios have the 28 day delay for Redbox/Netflix etc...tried searching online but it's not clear...some articles state that in 2012 Warner Bros. changed the terms to a 56 day delay...but then others say that Redbox decided to buy the discs on their own through 3rd party sources so the delay is no longer in effect...but then I see titles like Godzilla with a 28 delay on Redbox so I'm confused...anyone know the current terms that Netflix, Redbox have in regards to new movie releases from individual studios?
Every one of Redbox’s major studio agreements is set to expire or come up for renewal in the next seven months. And Lionsgate’s five-year, $158 million distribution deal (first signed in mid-2009 and extended in mid-2011) already expired in August.


Sony Pictures Home Entertainment’s agreement with Redbox runs through the end of September. First struck in mid-2009, the Sony agreement had Redbox paying the studio approximately $460 million for its discs over the life of the deal. Sony titles are available for rent the same day they’re available for sale at retail.


Universal Studios Home Entertainment agreed in early 2013 to continue supplying Redbox with discs — with a 28-day embargo on new release titles — through the end of 2014. Universal has an option to extend the agreement through the end of 2015.


Redbox’s agreement with 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment could run through late April 2015, at the studio’s discretion (Redbox estimated it will pay the studio nearly $395 million over the life of the agreement, which was first struck in mid-2010). New Fox titles have a 28-day delay for rental after street date.


Paramount Home Media Distribution’s deal (first struck in 2009) with Redbox runs through 2014, with Redbox estimating it would pay the studio $575 million over the life of the agreement. Paramount titles are available for rent the same day they’re available for sale.


Warner and Redbox came to terms in late 2012, with the studio agreeing to supply DVDs and Blu-rays to the kiosk operator through 2014, on the condition new release titles aren’t rented until 28 days after the retail release.


In mid-2012, Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment imposed a 28-day delay on new disc releases for rental. Disney and Redbox currently do not have a content licensing agreement.

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Every one of Redbox’s major studio agreements is set to expire or come up for renewal in the next seven months. And Lionsgate’s five-year, $158 million distribution deal (first signed in mid-2009 and extended in mid-2011) already expired in August.


Sony Pictures Home Entertainment’s agreement with Redbox runs through the end of September. First struck in mid-2009, the Sony agreement had Redbox paying the studio approximately $460 million for its discs over the life of the deal. Sony titles are available for rent the same day they’re available for sale at retail.


Universal Studios Home Entertainment agreed in early 2013 to continue supplying Redbox with discs — with a 28-day embargo on new release titles — through the end of 2014. Universal has an option to extend the agreement through the end of 2015.


Redbox’s agreement with 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment could run through late April 2015, at the studio’s discretion (Redbox estimated it will pay the studio nearly $395 million over the life of the agreement, which was first struck in mid-2010). New Fox titles have a 28-day delay for rental after street date.


Paramount Home Media Distribution’s deal (first struck in 2009) with Redbox runs through 2014, with Redbox estimating it would pay the studio $575 million over the life of the agreement. Paramount titles are available for rent the same day they’re available for sale.


Warner and Redbox came to terms in late 2012, with the studio agreeing to supply DVDs and Blu-rays to the kiosk operator through 2014, on the condition new release titles aren’t rented until 28 days after the retail release.


In mid-2012, Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment imposed a 28-day delay on new disc releases for rental. Disney and Redbox currently do not have a content licensing agreement.
Nice post. Do you have similar stats for Netflix? Also, in response to TitusTroy's comment about the 56 day Warner delay, the studio tried that, and although Netflix agreed to those terms, Red Box did not. Warner then decided to drop the idea, so it never materialized.

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Nice post. Do you have similar stats for Netflix? Also, in response to TitusTroy's comment about the 56 day Warner delay, the studio tried that, and although Netflix agreed to those terms, Red Box did not. Warner then decided to drop the idea, so it never materialized.

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I pulled this info off of my brokers recommendation to dump any shares I owned and not consider buying any .. I am also a NF stock holder and I do have the analysis .. it is similar in that the long term outlook for physical media contractual issues could very well be fairly bleak .. due primarily to studio greed and in how they value the content ..


The success of NF / RB could, very well, in a way, be a bane to future growth due to studio imposed pricing .. I'll root out the NF analysis ..


I personally believe that is why NF appears to be concentrating more and more on the streaming side ..

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...the long term outlook for physical media contractual issues could very well be fairly bleak .. due primarily to studio greed and in how they value the content ..
It might be the data the studios are looking at. Overall US disc sales revenue and overall US disc rental revenue likely broken down by BD and DVD.

Even for streaming, Netflix would need to cut deals with studios, not just for physical discs.
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in response to TitusTroy's comment about the 56 day Warner delay, the studio tried that, and although Netflix agreed to those terms, Red Box did not. Warner then decided to drop the idea, so it never materialized

it's a good thing that never materialized...a 2 month delay is not reasonable...I can understand movie studios wanting to delay rentals for as long as possible but most people who are interested in a particular movie will either buy the DVD/Blu-ray as soon as it's released or wait for a sale...so beyond the 1 month window you are not gaining anything in sales vs rentals
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