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post #211 of 257 Old 11-30-2008, 03:22 PM
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PQ is slightly more clear, less blurry on the BD than HD DVD in the last shots.
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It's probably as discernible to some as the PQ difference between the two.

Not even close. This is a very bad analogy.
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Anyone getting any skipping on these discs?

Running these on an updated PS3.

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Anyone getting any skipping on these discs?

Running these on an updated PS3.

Watching these on a PS3, no skipping to speak of. I hope your disc drive isn't flaking out on you.
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Anyone getting any skipping on these discs?

Running these on an updated PS3.


Not running on a PS3, but I've watched all 10 ep. without any skipping.

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Watching these on a PS3, no skipping to speak of. I hope your disc drive isn't flaking out on you.

I inspected the disc closely under light and there appears to be a deep and very tiny scratch in the surface. I can feel it with my finger nail.

Came straight out of the box to my drive.... guess I'll have to swap it out at Best Buy.

So... hopefully that's the case. Kept happening in the same spot over and over, so... I'm betting it's the disc and not the drive. Thanks for the replies though.

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So with all of this "moaning" about a slight passing of DNR, no one has noticed the framing error on "Currahee"?

I assume you're talking about the BD?

Having just now seen these comparison shots, I have to say I am not surprised they DNRed. You all knew it was going to happen.

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I assume you're talking about the BD?

Having just now seen these comparison shots, I have to say I am not surprised they DNRed. You all knew it was going to happen.

Blu-ray: making HD DVD more collectable day by day...

Don't get me wrong, I think that the Blu Ray looks great. That collectible HD DVD set won't play on my Blu Ray player.....

I am still surprised that no one has verified that "currahee" has a framing error. I would like to know in case I need to return my copy.
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Don't get me wrong, I think that the Blu Ray looks great. That collectible HD DVD set won't play on my Blu Ray player.....

I am still surprised that no one has verified that "currahee" has a framing error. I would like to know in case I need to return my copy.

Hi. Do you have a digi camera so you can snap a few shots of this?
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Hi. Do you have a digi camera so you can snap a few shots of this?

I am going to watch episodes 6 and 7 tonight. I will try to take a snap. The time stamp is around 1:08:25.
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For those still on the fence, maybe these HF Noiseview shots may help?







In these shots, the quality of the noise is very close in the visible levels and slightly more aggressively scrubbed in the less-visible extreme levels on the br. Macroblock artifacts are kept to a minimum in the hdvd, but the br goes just that extra step to take compression artifacts to a nearly nonexistent level. Some have said the hdvd seems just a tad more "sharp", but the reality may be that the detail is pretty much the same in either, but the increased strength of block artifacts in the hdvd may be just enough to make it seem sharper.

In that sense, the br version should not be so unwelcome by anyone who seeks a representative rendition of this video series. It's still got the noise, detail is intact (compared to any other version you could get your hands on), and compression artifact strength is nicely pushed to the edge of nonexistence.

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Don't get me wrong, I think that the Blu Ray looks great. That collectible HD DVD set won't play on my Blu Ray player.....

I am still surprised that no one has verified that "currahee" has a framing error. I would like to know in case I need to return my copy.

What is the exact timestamps on this one?
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What is the exact timestamps on this one?

It should be about 1:08:25 on "currahee". The scene is about 10 seconds long. I was going to take a pic last night but it was a little late.
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It should be about 1:08:25 on "currahee". The scene is about 10 seconds long. I was going to take a pic last night but it was a little late.

Huge fan of the series but haven't picked up the BD set yet. Very curious to see what the framing error is. Hope it's not a big one like that of BttF2 on dvd or PotC on BD.

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What is the exact timestamps on this one?

Xylon, I just popped it in to take a look. 1:08:21 is the time where it starts and lasts until 1:08:42. 10% of the right hand side of the screen is not there. The frame before it is 1.77 (fills the screen on my 16x9 HDTV).

I thought I needed to add the last part so everyone knew I had it setup correctly.
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Ya, this was brought up earlier. To be honest its a bit sloppy that it happened, but at the same time its a dark shot in an airplane so I barely noticed it on my 42", but I can imagine that on a larger screen it would be annoying.
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Ya, this was brought up earlier. To be honest its a bit sloppy that it happened, but at the same time its a dark shot in an airplane so I barely noticed it on my 42", but I can imagine that on a larger screen it would be annoying.

It almost looks like a bulk head in the airplane, except it moves with the camera. I noticed it on my 106" FP setup. You are right though, most people wouldn't even notice it.
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Guys that framing error is there on the HD DVD as well. Probably on the DVD too but I haven't checked. Probably in the master.
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Guys that framing error is there on the HD DVD as well. Probably on the DVD too but I haven't checked. Probably in the master.

Maybe not an error at all, but an editing choice where a better shot was not available or for some reason it was necessary to use it.
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Maybe not an error at all, but an editing choice where a better shot was not available or for some reason it was necessary to use it.

You're probably right. I doubt it was a mistake, and if it was, there isn't much you can do. I took a look and it is very very minor issue. I'm curious and I will be pulling out the old DVDs later. My money is that it is there as well. This is nothing like the POTC error. Not even close.
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I was watching the Replacements last night, and I noted a scene with some nasty banding. It was around the 50-51 minute mark.

There were also a couple of shots I thought looked exceptional and wonder if the HD DVD looks the same or better.

Xylon, or anyone else who has the HD DVD and can do captures .. if i were to provide to blu-ray frames and give you the times where you can find them, would you be willing to put up equivalent HD DVD frame?

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Banding?

You guys are finding stuff I can't keep up

I still need to watch the second half of the series.
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How do i see the interactive field guide. I see the timeline and the icons. I go to the icon but i cant get the icon to diplay any information about . Like Bio etc.....

What button do i have to push?
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How do i see the interactive field guide. I see the timeline and the icons. I go to the icon but i cant get the icon to diplay any information about . Like Bio etc.....

What button do i have to push?

I have the same problem. I have a PS3 with blu-ray remote control, but I can't get the field guide working.
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Just finished reading this entire thread. While the cries of DNR might be true they seem exaggerated. At least in my opinion as I just bought the Blu copy for $35 (and I'm purple so I had HD DVD as an option).
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Just finished reading this entire thread. While the cries of DNR might be true they seem exaggerated. At least in my opinion as I just bought the Blu copy for $35 (and I'm purple so I had HD DVD as an option).

I don't have the HD DVD to compare to, but I am still noticing grain in many scenes and cannot really detect much DNR at all from 11' away on a 100" screen. I paid $42 for the set and really cannot complain about the PQ, AQ, or extras. The interactive field guide is actually pretty cool. If you have a Blu-Ray player and are a fan of this series (or have not seen it yet) I highly recommend watching this on Blu-Ray.
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Yeah, I can't tell a difference. I've been trying and even in these screen caps I can't tell them apart. Maybe my vision is bad or something. I understand people wanting the best picture possible, but getting really upset about this stuff seems a little excessive.
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Yeah, I can't tell a difference. I've been trying and even in these screen caps I can't tell them apart. Maybe my vision is bad or something. I understand people wanting the best picture possible, but getting really upset about this stuff seems a little excessive.

In still images, it's pretty easy to pick up the "smoother" image of the BD release. But in full motion, the differences are much less easy to notice. Although the BD and HD-DVD do have noticeably different color shifts, again the difference is small.

Either one is a huge upgrade from the DVDs.
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How do i see the interactive field guide. I see the timeline and the icons. I go to the icon but i cant get the icon to diplay any information about . Like Bio etc.....

What button do i have to push?

On my BDP-S550 it's simply the "enter" button.

When you select the icon and press "enter" a little box should slide up from the bottom of the screen with text information, or a PIP window should begin playing video.
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Well if you happen to have the HD DVDs also and thought about dumping them on Ebay, don't bother, looks like HBO is blocking resales and Ebay is cancelling the auctions. I've never seen anything like this before and thought others might get a kick out of it.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post16288044
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