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post #1 of 97 Old 12-19-2008, 09:22 PM - Thread Starter
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In case some of you may not know, Fox has implemented a new version of their BD+ copy protection since their previous version was cracked. As a result, playback compatibility was broken on many Blu-ray players. I thought I'd make a list of the movies with the new BD+ as well as any players that will or will not play them using the latest firmware.

The following titles with the new BD+:
1. Futurama: Bender's Game (U.S.)
2. Firefly, The Complete Series (U.S.)
3. Planet of the Apes (1968 ) (U.S.)
4. Predator 2 (1990)
5. Shine a Light (U.K)
6. Planet of the Apes (most of the series), U.S.
7. Space Chimps, USA
8. Meet Dave, USA
9. X-Files 2
10. X-Files 1
11. Home Alone
12. The Day The Earth Stood Still: Special Edition
13. Jingle All The Way
14. Super Troopers
15. Dodgeball: A True Underdog Story
16. Horton hears a Who (US version only)
17. French Connection I & II UK BD
18. In the Name of the King (US)
19. Vanishing Point, Germany
20. Babylon A.D.

And any Fox title released from now on.


These titles are not working on the following players:
Insignia NS-2BRDVD
LG BH100
Olevia BD-100
Samsung BD-P1000
Sharp BD-HP21U

These titles are working on the following players:
Funai Players (Magnavox NB500MG9, Insignia NS-BRDVD, Sylvania NB500SL9 and NB501SL9)
LG BH200
Memorex MVBD-2510 (now fixed with most recent firmware)
Panasonic DMP-BD10, DMP-BD30, DMP-BD35, DMP-BD50, DMP-BD55
Playstation 3
Pioneer BDP-51FD, BDP-05FD
Samsung BD-P1400, BD-P1500, BD-UP5000
Sony BDP-S300 (now fixed with most recent firmware)
Sony BDP-S350/BDP-BX1



Reply to this thread if these titles work, or don't work in your player and I'll update the list. I think that if one plays they should all play.

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Blu-rays: 24
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Samsung BD-P1500 with latest firmware confirmed working with X-Files 1 & 2, and with Planet of the Apes & Beneath the Planet of the Apes. I haven't tried the other PotA movies yet; I'll have some free time on holiday next week to see them.

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Player added. Thanks.

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well, I ain't near the player, but I know for a fact a large number of those discs play on the PS3...

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Watched all the Firefly's on my LG BH-200 dually. No problems.
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Watched X-File: I Want to Believe on my BH200 and no problems.
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Shouldn't the ps3 will always play any blue ray movie since it will update its self when it needs to for new software?

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Shouldn't the ps3 will always play any blue ray movie since it will update its self when it needs to for new software?

There are regular updates, but it won't just update whenever it needs to do so. For games, yes, it will check for a patch, but this isn't the case for movies. For instance, if Fox was to release a new batch of discs before Sony was aware of an issue with the current PS3 firmware, you'd have to wait for Sony to put together a new update. There's no way for new BD+ to tell the PS3 to update itself. However, depending on how involved Sony is with whatever process Fox has to go through before doing new BD+, Sony could be aware of it before the discs are pressed and have time to get the update ready.
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Home Alone played on the Panasonic 10A with the latest firware.
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Home Alone played on the Panny BD-30, with older firmware (1.4). It took about 2 minutes to load up, but the movie did play without a hitch.
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Home Alone played fine on my BD35, but did take quite a while to load.

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Titles work fine on Pioneer BDP-51FD & Pioneer BDP-05FD

Vote with your wallet. Don't buy Cinavia-infected Blu-ray Discs! Why pay a premium for pseudo-lossless audio damaged by an intrusive watermark in the audible spectrum?
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Anyone try a Funai player (Insignia, Magnavox, Sylvania, etc.)?
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There are regular updates [for the PS3], but it won't just update whenever it needs to do so. For games, yes, it will check for a patch, but this isn't the case for movies.

Correct. While we PS3 owners do receive frequent firmware updates from Sony, download and installation are not automatic. We have to rely on Sony to get the firmware updates to us and then we have to make sure to install them. That said, I have never had a compatibility problem with any BD played on my PS3 during the 5 months I have had it. In just that time, I have received 3 firmware updates.
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What I am confused by is the ultimate responsibility for providing firmware to play the Fox BD+...is it the Fox company or Sony or the player manufacturer...It gets so strange...
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Home Alone played fine on my BD35, but did take quite a while to load.

Same here.
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In case some of you may not know, Fox has implemented a new version of their BD+ copy protection since their previous version was cracked. As a result, playback compatibility was broken on many Blu-ray players. I thought I'd make a list of the movies with the new BD+ as well as any players that will or will not play them using the latest firmware.

The following titles with the new BD+:

10. X-Files 1
12. The Day The Earth Stood Still: Special Edition

(snip)

Reply to this thread if these titles work, or don't work in your player and I'll update the list. I think that if one plays they should all play.

No playback problems with the above 2 Fox Titles on either my Panasonic BD30 or BD55, both players out of the box with no firmware updates.

T.B.
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Firefly and Futurama both play fine on my Samsung BD-P1400.
I'm running latest firmware or the one before.
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I have watched "the day the earth stood still" on my Sony BD550. No problems at all.
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Won't be long before this BS is cracked as well. They're wasting their time.
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Correct. While we PS3 owners do receive frequent firmware updates from Sony, download and installation are not automatic. We have to rely on Sony to get the firmware updates to us and then we have to make sure to install them. That said, I have never had a compatibility problem with any BD played on my PS3 during the 5 months I have had it. In just that time, I have received 3 firmware updates.

2+ years and I never had an issue with playback of ANY title on the PS3. I know they aren't for everyone, but the PS3 sure seems the way to go especially when discussions about playback issues arise.
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Since the PS3 is the world's most common Blu-ray player, every major studio makes sure their Blu-rays play on it without problems.
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Won't be long before this BS is cracked as well. They're wasting their time.

Actually, they aren't. I'm willing to bet that Fox would be willing to constantly create new BD+ virtual machines and keep a few around all the time. When one is cracked they can immediately put the new one into production. What this does is it constantly delays cracking, such that people who want the new release now instead of waiting months for the pirates the crack it will just buy it because it's easier.

Copy protection and DRM are not and have never been about preventing piracy, they are about delaying piracy until the initial release window, where most of sales and profits are mode, is over.
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No problems with Firefly or Planet of the Apes on my Sony BDP-BX1 (aka BDP-S350).
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Since the PS3 is the world's most common Blu-ray player, every major studio makes sure their Blu-rays play on it without problems.

Tell that to the people that have had problems with some movies on their PS3. I've seen several threads on here about people having troubles with some movies on their PS3.

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I have had to update my PS3 5 times in the last 11 months and it is getting to be a bit of a PITA. Once was for a brand new game that would not load until a firmware update was done. It takes about an hour to to this so it is a MAJOR let down when it's movie time.

I can see where the average consumer will not put up with it. Look for open box specials at retailers after the holidays.
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1,2 and 12 work beautifully on my Sony BPD-S350

89+ Blu-ray Disc ;)
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I have had to update my PS3 5 times in the last 11 months and it is getting to be a bit of a PITA. Once was for a brand new game that would not load until a firmware update was done. It takes about an hour to to this so it is a MAJOR let down when it's movie time.

I can see where the average consumer will not put up with it. Look for open box specials at retailers after the holidays.

Well the PS3 always been like that. So is the PSP, they are computers basically so it's normal .

Memorex MVBD-2510
LG BH100 - No Longer Produce
Olevia BD-100 - This company is in Banckupcy
Samsung BD-P1000 -No Longer Produce

This XMas people are buying the S350, BD35 and the PS3 , those are the 3 most popular model. They even wrote an article about Chinese company (Funai for example that procude the Insignia and other brand) being frustrated.

Walmart in my region is liquidating the Insignia and they've replaced it by the S350 (for 60$ more you can have the Sony)

89+ Blu-ray Disc ;)
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Target is selling the Olevia player for $150 and even if a player is no longer being produced, so what? Does that mean they should no longer be able to play blu-rays?

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I bought my sister and brother in-law a Memorex MVBD-2510 for Xmas. Now what do I do?
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