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post #721 of 1612 Old 08-04-2009, 04:55 PM
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It seems Part I is an entire disc on the HD-DVD set, and maybe the BD's extra capacity allowed the entire Mini-series to be put on a single disc for us lazy folks?

They were well under capacity for the HD DVDs, for some reason. Left a bit of empty space. Odd that they would split the miniseries up again, instead of having it altogether like the DVD. Guess the split is how they intended it to be seen.
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Wha-?! The miniseries is split? That sucks! I know it aired in two parts originally, but I like watching the whole thing in one go, without a second set of credits in the middle.

Hope to see more posts about the actual content, and for frak sake, someone post some screenshots!

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Correct. If somebody asks that spoilers be used there's no reason why others can't do that. It's only a few more characters to type. In the end, the forum is only as good as its members. However, if others don't do it or forget, there's also no reason to be nasty to them.

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I am more than happy to accept this. I have never criticized anyone for using spoiler tags. Do what you want. I have defended the right to post without them. Ironic that those who claim to be courteous have no hesitation tearing into fellow posters for not agreeing with their orthodoxy.
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My BSG set arrived today from amazon, and the packaging is just as crappy as I was expecting. It is the worst packaging of everything in my collection. They went out of their way to make sure it was all kinds of awkward and dysfunctional, even though it looks kinda cool... if I can find a shelf that can hold it. Now to find some spare time to rewatch all the episodes...

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I'll probably do custom covers and you're more than welcome to use mine if you like.

On the case order, I need to get a few details from USPS this afternoon, then I should have a final price. I will request that you order in multiples of five cases.

Same here man. Just let me know about the order info.

The friggin' box is cheap and goofy looking and doesn't fit on my shelf anyway.
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i have all ready watched season 3 and 4.0 and on the 2nd disc of 4.5 looks great it kills my dvd sets

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Same here man. Just let me know about the order info.

The friggin' box is cheap and goofy looking and doesn't fit on my shelf anyway.

I, also would be committed to this group buy for cases. Please let me know.
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I, also would be committed to this group buy for cases. Please let me know.

I'm in for a group buy!
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I, also would be committed to this group buy for cases. Please let me know.

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I'm in for a group buy!

Send a PM to vläd asap. I think today he is finalizing the quantity and placing the order.

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In anticipation of the replacement cases being purchased by vlad (thanks btw!!!)

Does anyone have custom covers ready to go?
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omg!

As I had previously posted, I had no intention of buying this right now since it's so expensive, hoping for a sale later on.

My husband knows the key to my heart is not jewelry or flowers or candy (like most stereotypical females would prefer)... and he just walked in the house and got my 5 year old to deliver this over to me. He's apologizing b/c he is golfing too much this summer.

If he continues to come home with expensive blu ray boxed sets, he can golf all he wants!

*squee* Since I've missed out on the 6-disc cases order, I'll definitely be asking my folks to send me some with their Christmas package for the kids.
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Send a PM to vläd asap. I think today he is finalizing the quantity and placing the order.

Done, but no response. Hope I'm not too late.
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Done, but no response. Hope I'm not too late.

Me too...

I missed the discussion of a group buy between trying to avoid spoilers and avoid all the stupid discussion about Spoiler Tags!!!
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It's nice to see Ronald D. Moore moving on up in the world. I remember when he was still working with Rick Berman doing ST:TNG, and all the 24th Century Trek. I'm just glad to see what he's put together with the competition with BSG, it's amazing.

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omg!

As I had previously posted, I had no intention of buying this right now since it's so expensive, hoping for a sale later on.

My husband knows the key to my heart is not jewelry or flowers or candy (like most stereotypical females would prefer)... and he just walked in the house and got my 5 year old to deliver this over to me. He's apologizing b/c he is golfing too much this summer.

If he continues to come home with expensive blu ray boxed sets, he can golf all he wants!

*squee* Since I've missed out on the 6-disc cases order, I'll definitely be asking my folks to send me some with their Christmas package for the kids.

I'm screwed, cause i play too much golf AND i love BSG. My wife hates both.. hmmm...

Back on topic...Watched the first part of the mini-series last night and i have to say, i'm impressed. I watched the first two seasons on SD and i had no idea it would look this good. I actually only caught season 4.5 on HD and i missed all of season 3 and most of season 4.0. I was just floored with the great sound and visuals. Usually HD shows just how shotty a sci-fi set is, but in BSG's case, it completely enhances it!

Totally loving this set!
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Yep the PQ and AQ in this set are top notch. I am most of the way through S1 now - hoping to move on to S2 by the weekend.
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Maybe we could do a group buy for these replacement cases:
http://www.pcx.com.au/products/detail.asp?item=1456

This looks like the Planet Earth / Blade Runner / Star Trek TOS Season 1 style case with the flippable trays inside a large-ish case. I'm not such a big fan of these cases as inevitably the discs seem to come loose (especially from the insert trays) and rattle about inside.

Has anyone found a vendor for the thin-pack cases used in the Ultimate Matrix Collection or the Star Trek movie collection (or Austin Powers collection, etc)? I'd go for the thin-cases in a heartbeat (as this is what Universal should have used in the first place).

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Checkoutstore.com has slim cases available for sale I believe.
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Checkoutstore.com has slim cases available for sale I believe.

Thanks, this sounds like the cases I had in mind:

http://www.checkoutstore.com/PREMIUM...-p/brcases.htm

Hopefully someone does artwork up for these. =)

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Thanks, this sounds like the cases I had in mind:

http://www.checkoutstore.com/PREMIUM...-p/brcases.htm

Hopefully someone does artwork up for these. =)

More cases here....

http://www.sleevetown.com/blu-ray-hd-dvd-case.shtml
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More cases here....

http://www.sleevetown.com/blu-ray-hd-dvd-case.shtml

However those aren't the slim ones he was talking about. Those are 12mm, the slim ones are 7mm
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Nuts, I missed the group buy. Those slim cases, though...tempting...it'd eat less shelf space than the box, but then you'd have to track down or make some nice custom cover art for 20 cases (or ten double cases). Ow.

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It's absurd that anyone has to pay more for secure packaging. I might buy some cheap plastic cd sleeves and put them in the cardboard. Then I would just need an episode guide booklet.

That or I buy the UK set too and decide which one is better, or should I say "not as useless".

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Okay, I've still not had a chance to check out the music from the first season, but I'll try and get onto that ASAP - and yes, it is Region-free.

Additionally, I've now had in the final six discs, so there will be a major update to this review soon. However, I can confirm that with the possible exception of the Battlestar Galactica: Ultimate Battle BD-Live Card Game (it's not listed on the menus of any of the discs, but it may still be accessible through the standard BD-Live link when the UK servers are up and running) all of the bonus content from the US set is included in the boxset.

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With regards to the codecs, things only get weirder with the last six discs. Razor is encoded with AVC, the two discs for Season 4.0 are both VC-1, and then the first and last discs of Season 4.5 use AVC, while the middle one is VC-1! Very curious - but as I mentioned in the original review, I've not spotted any difference in image quality between the two in this set.

As for the US set, I presume the codec situation is the same, but haven't been able to check it for myself, as that would mean buying one. Which I won't do simply because it's more expensive than the UK release and the packaging look bloody awful.

Do the codecs change? And while on the subject - Why the hell is Universal switching back to VC-1 for new titles? AVC was working fine for them.

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Do the codecs change? And while on the subject - Why the hell is Universal switching back to VC-1 for new titles? AVC was working fine for them.

What's it matter? It isn't like the codec itself is going to have any impact on video quality.
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What's it matter? It isn't like the codec itself is going to have any impact on video quality.

Actually yes, the codec used can impact video quality. See MPEG-2. FWIW, I prefer H.264/AVC over VC-1.

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Actually yes, the codec used can impact video quality. See MPEG-2. FWIW, I prefer H.264/AVC over VC-1.

If you were to say "the codec used can impact video quality keeping bitrates the same", yes, I'd agree with that. But it's not at all hard to have a top-notch VC-1 or MPEG-2 encode if you're willing to up the bitrate as needed.

In any event, it sounds very much like the codec choice isn't really an issue in terms of image quality here, just a weird design decision.
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If you were to say "the codec used can impact video quality keeping bitrates the same", yes, I'd agree with that. But it's not at all hard to have a top-notch VC-1 or MPEG-2 encode if you're willing to up the bitrate as needed.

In any event, it sounds very much like the codec choice isn't really an issue in terms of image quality here, just a weird design decision.

Yeah it is strange that codecs are mixed but I haven't noticed anything when spot checking those parts which are different codecs.

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Disc Title:     BSG_S4_AND_A_HALF_D1
Disc Size:      46,971,141,166 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        Yes
BDInfo:         0.5.2

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Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
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MPEG-4 AVC Video        0 kbps              1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1


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Disc Title:     BSG_S45_D2
Disc Size:      46,024,627,735 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        Yes
BDInfo:         0.5.2

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Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
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VC-1 Video              0 kbps              1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Advanced Profile 3
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What's it matter? It isn't like the codec itself is going to have any impact on video quality.

It's just curiosity. Universal's VC-1 offerings haven't had any of the issues that Warner's have. So I have no issues with it, other than I prefer uniformity.

But can anyone with the set confirm that Season 4 changes codecs disc-by-disc? That's got to be a first.

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It's just curiosity. Universal's VC-1 offerings haven't had any of the issues that Warner's have. So I have no issues with it, other than I prefer uniformity.

But can anyone with the set confirm that Season 4 changes codecs disc-by-disc? That's got to be a first.

I'll try to take a look tonight. I agree that Universal VC-1 is high enough bit-rate that it shouldnt make a difference (VC-1 vs AVC), but it's weird that they would switch codecs like that... Perhaps thay had different people assigned to encode different seasons.... it may give us some comparison material if the intros (or part of the intros) are the same.

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