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The first DVD release of this movie is the only one I have so this is the one I used. Whenever I can get the newer DVDs then I will post it or some of you can help and post them if you have it.

The PQ is very good. The transfer is cleaned up. Having said that I can also describe the image as "soft". DNR in some scenes has virtually eliminated any hint of grain. Don't worry getting a "Pattonized" look. Its just not as sharp as other catalog titles.

With the exception of The Bourne Trilogy the recent box sets The Fast and the Furious and Batman does not offer the same value to me because the sequels are vastly inferior (as a movie) and I am being forced to buy the discs I don't want or willing to pay for. Why not just charge us $19.99 each disc that we want?

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DVD 1996

Blu-ray File size: 28.00 GB

Bitrate: 22.34 mbps


Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                            

                 
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track         

                 Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------       

                 ---------------------
00004.MPLS                                                      VC-1    2:06:19 28,339,040,256  41,439,894,474  29.91   22.34   Dolby TrueHD 5.1 

1694Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)  DD AC3 5.1 640Kbps


DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     BATMAN 1989
Disc Size:      41,439,894,474 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.1

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00004.MPLS
Size:                   28,339,040,256 bytes
Length:                 2:06:19 (h:m:s)
Total Bitrate:          29.91 Mbps
Description:            

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Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
VC-1 Video              22338 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Advanced Profile 3

AUDIO:

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-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Dolby TrueHD Audio              English         1694 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 1694 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps)
Dolby Digital Audio             English         640 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio             French          192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / Dolby Surround
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So far, it seems to look better, but not astonishingly so.

I LOVE MOVIES!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

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is it me, or is that first shot of batman on blu ray smoothed out with DNR?

hd-dvd vs blu-ray: whoever wins... we lose.
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so far, it seems to look better, but not astonishingly so.

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p.s.

Xylon,

Why won't you tell us in the very first post which version DVD you are using?

So is this the 2009 DVD or the one from years ago?
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exactly

the joker pic is a night and day difference.
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The BD looks much better and much more filmlike, but I do wonder if there was some light grain reduction applied.

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p.s.

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Why won't you tell us in the very first post which version DVD you are using?

So is this the 2009 DVD or the one from years ago?

If you notice, he hasn't put up any disc information, yet. Have some patience.

Back off man, I'm a scientist.
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My guess is he is using the 2009 DVD as its brightness is the same as the BD; the 2005 DVD was darker.

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exactly

the joker pic is a night and day difference.

I can't agree with night and day, but it is definitely a better image.

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exactly

the joker pic is a night and day difference.


Hmmm...not exactly "night and day"...that comparison would fit the VHS version to DVD or Blu.
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Personally from the current crop of shots, two, it appears a bit scrubbed; however, it does look better than the DVD by a great degree.

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Didn't the anthology DVD set with the improved transfers come out like 4 years ago? Is the new 2009 set any different? That would mean 3 different DVD versions....
And by most accounts, Batman Returns looks much better.
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Your months-long devotion to a losing argument is strange and baffling.

The Blu-ray could probably be even better, but the amount of detail compared with the DVD is no contest.
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I'm actually surprised at the quality difference. There's much more there than I thought.

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Didn't the anthology DVD set with the improved transfers come out like 4 years ago? Is the new 2009 set any different? That would mean 3 different DVD versions....
And by most accounts, Batman Returns looks much better.

If I recall correctly, the 2009 DVD looks different than the 2005 DVD which looks different than the 1997 DVD. It might have been DVD Beaver, I can't remember, but some site had screenshots of all three versions.

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If I recall correctly, the 2009 DVD looks different than the 2005 DVD which looks different than the 1997 DVD. It might have been DVD Beaver, I can't remember, but some site had screenshots of all three versions.

Hiya dave! Actually DVDBeaver compared the two DVDs, 97 and 2005 to the BD. There are 3 pics, comps. but only 2 dvd.

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDRev...manreturns.htm

Why would they have done a 3rd transfer for DVD? Makes no sense. Also what is the difference between the Anthology DVD set from 2005 and the 2009 one? Extra trailers for the Nolan films?
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horrible y/c delay on the DVD

this is no comparison here at all, BD is much better

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I got the first two films from Netflix last week. So far, I've seen just the first one, but it looks and sounds great. I don't think I've seen the whole movie since VHS! I remember 1989's 'Batman' was as practically as big a phenomenon as "The Dark Knight' was last year.

My wife, who is a Tim Burton fan, had never seen either one. We were pleasantly surprised at how good the first was. I did see 'Returns' in the theater, and loved it. I can't wait to see the BD.

IMHO, Burton's films were unfairly lumped in with the Schumacher films, especially the incredibly bad 'Batman and Robin'. The Burton/Keaton Batman films make a good balance between the campy Adam West Batman and the ultra-serious Bale Batman.
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Wow! This looks way better than expected. Warner did a great job re-mastering these.

It looks better than The Dark Knight
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Based on these screenshots, I would have loved to see some film grain.

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With the exception of The Bourne Trilogy the recent box sets The Fast and the Furious and Batman does not offer the same value to me because the sequels are vastly inferior (as a movie) and I am being forced to buy the discs I don't want or willing to pay for. Why not just charge us $19.99 each disc that we want?

If anyone is interested, you should be able to import each UK version (identical encode to the U.S.) at around $20.00. I did this with the first two movies - I think it came out to $38.XX total. I bought mine from thehut.com and there was also a coupon at the time.

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Based on these screenshots, I would have loved to see some film grain.

There is a very fine grain structure to Batman. I have the UK disc and it's definitely no DNR fest.
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