Originally Posted by troglobite
Personally I think all three look hideous. Of the three, the Skynet has the least artifacting, etc added to the part which looks to be the original DI. I said too how the other two have lots of chroma noise too. It doesn't look like NR, but more Gaussian blur. Unless you consider a Gausian blur a form of noise reduction? I Also think a mild amount of unsharpen like mask was added before the application of Gaussian blur. I also think the original DI was fiddled with, similar to how you can use various processing to a camera raw using Photoshop ACR before loading a image.
The chroma noise, IMHO, is hiding and masking the problems in the other two. So they aren't necessarily better. But this is like arguing which soup tastes the least bad.
Basically, I'm thinking, no matter if you were to have a pixel for pixel representation of the DI used for this, it'd still look like garbage. Therefore, again IMHO, the Skynet is the closest in my eyes to what this particular DI looks like.
I agree that none of them look terribly good, so it is a bit about arguing over which piece of moldy bread tastes better, but the Studio Canal HD DVD still looks by far the best to me and is the only one where I really feel like I am actually seeing anything more than I do if I use that old WMV HD file on the old DVD set. The Skynet looks worst to me, I simply hate the artificial waxy look in movies, nothing is worse than that, 100% the opposite reason I got blu-ray for. Skynet is just too scrubbed of detail. At least some of the detail in the HD DVD over Skynet is definitely real detail and not just contrast/sharpening differences so I don't think you can say the skynet is closest to the DI used, which at most was probably just used for SFX scenes anyway.
I'm not so sure it is a gaussian blur since that it seems like some parts of the image were treated a little differently than other parts such as certain hard edges, so I'm doubting that abit, but anyway even if you are right, yes, I do consider that NR, even if a bit of a crude form of it, so it doesn't matter in the end whether you are correct about thte gaussian blur filter or not.
But yeah we need a properly done transfer.
We also need FOX to un-cancel Terminator:The SCC.
It didn't get helped any by the writers strike and then being buried against MNF, more hiatus and then Friday night. And you wonder why it go so much HUlu,DVR,PC HD viewing.... Yeah FOX, you really did give it the best and most consistent chance you could've.... right. What a horrible time to cancel it, it basdly needed a S3 to at least let it go out feeling finished. Sort of like if ABC cancelled LOST right now and left us hanging.... And then the less worthy Sci-fi they actually save....