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post #1 of 27 Old 06-19-2009, 07:32 PM - Thread Starter
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"I have never seen it, but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific." - Michael Caine, on Jaws the Revenge
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Has this been released in any other region already?
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Excellent. Looking forward to this.
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Day 1 - I've missed this one since I dropped HDDVD.

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Has this been released in any other region already?

No. Charlie and the Choc. Factory was, though.

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No. Charlie and the Choc. Factory was, though.

Cool, I may replace the HD DVD on my server then if they put out a better version ala Full Metal Jacket. TKS
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Hopefully it'll be jaggy free.
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Hopefully it'll be jaggy free.

maybe they can fix Enter the Dragon as well
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RELEASE DATE CHANGE: October 6th!!!

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screw johnny depp.. its all about this one.

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This seems to be using a new transfer.

HD-DVD screenshot I took



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Looks like they just filtered away the aliasing ala Perfect Storm, and I doubt it's a new transfer so much as your renderer/decoder settings and DVD Beaver's are probably completely different.
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Geometry and colors are different so I'm betting it's a different transfer.
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Looks like they just filtered away the aliasing ala Perfect Storm, and I doubt it's a new transfer so much as your renderer/decoder settings and DVD Beaver's are probably completely different.

I took it with ArcSoft TotalMedia Theatre 2 after breaking the DRM with AnyDVD HD. I didn't mess with anything besides saving the .bmp as a .jpg with The GiMP (98% quality). That's what the program gave me :/
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I'm not saying your shot is wrong (well, maybe the resolution part), just that a side-to-side with the same settings would be more conclusive.

Getting my copy tomorrow so we'll see then.
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dvdbeaver has some screenshots... no comparisons to hd dvd though

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Would love to see some HD DVD vs. BD comparisons on this one. Trying to decide if I should just keep the HD DVD given the price of the BD.

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Is this actually out already? I'm seeing 10/6, 10/13 and 10/20 as the release date, depending on what site I am checking.
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That's.. depressing. Warner continues to shovel out the crap transfers and encodes. Thanks a bunch.
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Hmmm, not sure that is fair.
I have Willy Wonka on HD DVD and thought the transfer was excellent.
Just what I expect from a hi-def transfer (compare that to the awful Gremlins transfer).
But, that was still a transfer from an early 2000 DVD.
Since they went to the digibook route on Blu-Ray, we all expected a new transfer.
Since they didn't do that, I'll happily keep my HD DVD.
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Hmmm, not sure that is fair.
I have Willy Wonka on HD DVD and thought the transfer was excellent.
Just what I expect from a hi-def transfer (compare that to the awful Gremlins transfer).
But, that was still a transfer from an early 2000 DVD.
Since they went to the digibook route on Blu-Ray, we all expected a new transfer.
Since they didn't do that, I'll happily keep my HD DVD.

It's blurry to hide the aliasing, it appears to be horizontally stretched and it's just not a pleasing image. Honestly, I might prefer the aliased HD-DVD to the filtered Blu-ray.

And what's not fair about that? It is a crap transfer (aliasing) and it is a crap encode (filtered, stretched, colors appear off but that could be DVD Beaver). Warner continues to shovel out some of the laziest releases out there.
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It's blurry to hide the aliasing, it appears to be horizontally stretched and it's just not a pleasing image. Honestly, I might prefer the aliased HD-DVD to the filtered Blu-ray.

And what's not fair about that? It is a crap transfer (aliasing) and it is a crap encode (filtered, stretched, colors appear off but that could be DVD Beaver). Warner continues to shovel out some of the laziest releases out there.

You have a right to your opinion and I agree there are issues with the transfer at times but the last word that comes to my mind when watching is "crap".
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I know this thread is very old... but I finally broke down and bought this movie new. I am wondering if anyone elses version is like mine...

the movie doesn't fill the frame of the monitor???

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Willy Wonka (1971) does fill 1.78. Charlie (2005) has a black bar on the left side of the frame.
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Willy Wonka (1971) does fill 1.78. Charlie (2005) has a black bar on the left side of the frame.

interesting... mine does not. it's floating within the normal image area of the monitor.
was there a BD version where this was an issue?

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The opening credits are windowboxed. Check past there.
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