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Because he...desires the video look?

Exactly
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He wants his movies nowadays to look like a video crew from the 10 o'clock news using pro-consumer gear was following the action?

kinda...at least for collateral
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He wants his movies nowadays to look like a video crew from the 10 o'clock news using pro-consumer gear was following the action?

Worked for Collateral, did not all for Public Enemies
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He wants his movies nowadays to look like a video crew from the 10 o'clock news using pro-consumer gear was following the action?

Pretty much
To clarify, I don't necessarily agree with that desire, at in the context of period material like Public Enemies. Collateral and Miami Vice - I thought the video aesthetic fit like a glove. Unfortunately he seems to want it for everything now...
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One thing I'd ask Mr. Mann...

Why shoot with digital video cameras if the DP doesn't seem to know how to make it not look like video?

Public Enemies, for instance, has all the nasty "tells" of a video shoot. It was quite distracting. Though, I still don't think digital is as ready for prime time as we'd like, the way The Social Network was shot was quite visually interesting using digital cinematography (didn't they use the RED?).

There is still something to be said for real film, shot in 2D, with the right stock, lenses, color timing, and lighting. Too bad more people don't shoot in 65mm with a normal color pallet (none of this teal and orange leaning timing and contrast pumped stuff) and we went back to the grand, giant screen movie experiences of the past...

I am working with him right now and he shot this project on 35mm.
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It's not the original mix, but the LD and the DTS dvd have always been used as a demo

The US LD was a demo material for sure when it was released,but a lot has happened since. I own all the domestic releases including the LD, but I'm quiet happy with the BD.
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Unfortunately he seems to want it for everything now...

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I am working with him right now and he shot this project on 35mm.

...Aaaand maybe I spoke too soon!
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According to Amazon there's a new 2-disc edition being released on June 19th. Any idea what this is all about? I know a lot of people weren't satisfied with the video quality of the original release.
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There are people who aren't satisfied with ANY video quality.

I wouldn't place any large bets on the accuracy of an Amazon description.
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A poster here says it's just a reissue with Movie Money for The Dark Knight Rises.
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A poster here says it's just a reissue with Movie Money for The Dark Knight Rises.



I accidentally purchased Heat , what ever I'll buy it again if it's all crack up to be.


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It'll be the same transfer and less than optimal encoding... this is WB we're talking about here.

Don't bother rebuying.

Listen up, studios! Just say "NO" to DNR and EE!!
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Heat (collector's edition) 9/26/12 Geneon-Universal

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No idea if the encoding would be any better.

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Warner Bros says nope they did the master for the new directors cut
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Warner Bros says nope they did the master for the new directors cut

That doesn't mean the encoding won't be better.

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That doesn't mean the encoding won't be better.

True but if the master is crap
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True but if the master is crap

Then we're screwed. smile.gif

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I can live with the pq, the aq however....
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hopefully the audio is better...
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hopefully the audio is better...

Can't be much worse!
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Extraordinary sound mix !!

One has to jack up the volume to hear what's being said, then make a mad dash for the remote when someone fires a gun
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Extraordinary sound mix !!

One has to jack up the volume to hear what's being said, then make a mad dash for the remote when someone fires a gun

Turn on "Night Mode" (Dynamic Compression)

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Warner is going around again for "Heat", with a 20th Aniv Edition release next October. Stay tuned.
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I bought Heat on Bluray and was very disappointed in the picture quality. I went back to DVD. There are some movies which look like crap on Bluray.
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Oh, there's crap alright...
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I bought Heat on Bluray and was very disappointed in the picture quality. I went back to DVD. There are some movies which look like crap on Bluray.
LOL!

The Blu-ray is a HUGE improvement over the DVD and actually a solid transfer especially for an older release. I'm not sure why some people have such a problem with this disc. It's a dark, softer look Mann film. Don't expect big improvements on a new scan and not every movie can nor should look like Avatar.

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LOL!

The Blu-ray is a HUGE improvement over the DVD and actually a solid transfer especially for an older release. I'm not sure why some people have such a problem with this disc. It's a dark, softer look Mann film. Don't expect big improvements on a new scan and not every movie can nor should look like Avatar.

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It's the audio mix for this particular Blu-ray release I have a problem with. The dialog is so much lower than the background sound effects and music. Crank things up to hear the dialog, and then blow out your speakers when a gun battle happens.

Listen up, studios! Just say "NO" to DNR and EE!!

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The Blu-ray is a HUGE improvement over the DVD and actually a solid transfer especially for an older release. I'm not sure why some people have such a problem with this disc. It's a dark, softer look Mann film. Don't expect big improvements on a new scan and not every movie can nor should look like Avatar.
Never seen Avatar. But Heat on Blu-ray looked brown and soft and fuzzy and unclear. That is opposite to what a high def Blu-ray should be.
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Never seen Avatar. But Heat on Blu-ray looked brown and soft and fuzzy and unclear. That is opposite to what a high def Blu-ray should be.
Does it make no difference then what the director and DP's intention is?
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