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post #181 of 1362 Old 09-29-2009, 12:02 PM
 
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I just noticed it in the shots, its lessened than the small pics
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PQ is a 4 at best. AQ is an easy 5.


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um, are you reviewing the rip, or the actual retail blu-ray disc
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um, are you reviewing the rip, or the actual retail blu-ray disc

And if an actual disc, where from (what region) and are the IMAX scenes intact or cropped? If cropped, post some screenshots so we can assess how they managed converting 1.43 to 2.39. Thanks!

EDIT: Being that all these screenshots are 1920x800 (cropped letterboxing), they are all from the rip and we still know nothing about the IMAX scenes.
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And if an actual disc, where from (what region) and are the IMAX scenes intact or cropped? If cropped, post some screenshots so we can assess how they managed converting 1.43 to 2.39. Thanks!

EDIT: Being that all these screenshots are 1920x800 (cropped letterboxing), they are all from the rip and we still know nothing about the IMAX scenes.


Now what do you know? :P

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What's the bet there arent even any IMAX scenes on the damn disc and Bay lied
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What's the bet there arent even any IMAX scenes on the damn disc and Bay lied

well he did say that they're gonna do a special SKU for imax so it's no surprise they're probably double dipping on that.

@avsnub i don't think you're gonna convince many that you're not screenshotting the bdrip leak online like that. why don't you run the bd through bdinfo or give us some other details on the disc?
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I will consider renting only if this release doesn't include the IMAX scenes.

Back off man, I'm a scientist.
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I loved that everone winged that there were not enough robot scenes in the first, now people say too many robots how can he win ?
I think people wanted him to fail.

I was quite okay with the number of robots in the first one. I figured we would get a couple more, but not a shitstorm more.

Plus, where is Barricade? Why is Starscream a bitch in this one? What is the deal with giving us two dumb-ass ghetto robots way more screen time than Sideswipe, and how come they can overtake Devastator like it's nothing? Why is there a 'Terminator chick-bot,' and why are we more concerned with the Transformers that don't actually transform or disguise as cars?

On that same note, why wasn't there much transforming in this movie? Yes, there were many robots... but even that one scene in Manhattan, Megatron tells Starscream something along the lines of "no more staying in hiding" or whatever he says, indicating "**** transforming."

There were many more issues about the robots in this movie than the simple fact of there just being too many, which again I felt that the first had a very okay number of robots.
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I was quite okay with the number of robots in the first one. I figured we would get a couple more, but not a shitstorm more.

Plus, where is Barricade? Why is Starscream a bitch in this one? What is the deal with giving us two dumb-ass ghetto robots way more screen time than Sideswipe, and how come they can overtake Devastator like it's nothing? Why is there a 'Terminator chick-bot,' and why are we more concerned with the Transformers that don't actually transform or disguise as cars?

There were many more issues about the robots in this movie than the simple fact of there just being too many, which again I felt that the first had a very okay number of robots.

+1 exactly. But I would like to watch it a second time this time at home. Maybe, just maybe I could change my mind.

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There was no nothing or just a little for the story in this big budget film,all is about robots fighting like Gundam(at the end).
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For anyone that may be interested, autographed copies of the DVD and BD of Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen are being sold on michaelbay.com with proceeds being donated to the Make a Wish Foundation.

DVDs and BDs of Revenge of the Fallen will be autographed by Michael Bay, and a BD-only set of both films will be autographed by Michael Bay and Tyrese Gibson:

http://www.michaelbay.com/store/rotf...tographed.html

Orders will be taken until October 16.

If you were going to buy anyway it's a great way to make a donation to charity at the same time.
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Franin,

I still enjoy the hell out of the film but a second viewing at home isn't going to change your mind. muffinmcfluffin's assessment is pretty dead on.

I mean, there are just some knuckleheaded decisions in this film that could've easily been straighten out with at least two more passes at the script and a little bit more planning in the pre-production stage.

I still firmly believe, even with its budget, this is almost the best Bay could've done considering the timetable he was working with.

I mean, here's an example I still can't wrap my mind around: The Decepticons are looking for the last piece of the Allspark to bring Megatron back to life and to also use to gain the knowledge of where the Matrix of Leadership is.

Yet, the Allspark is what destroyed Megatron in the first place. How could a little piece just bring him back to life?

Not to mention, if it could do the same for Megatron, the piece that Mikela is holding for Sam should, in theory, do the same for Optimus, right?

Not to even remotely mention, Sam touches the small piece and basically becomes the Cybertronian Intersect and yet, that doesn't happen to any of the robots?

I mean, from a script perspective, the easiest thing for them to do to get the plot moving was to using that moment at the end of the first film where Sam destroys Megatron at close range with the Allspark as the jumping off point to Sam's spasms he has in the film. Make that the source isn't of this second, little piece he touches. Then, you eliminated the whole problem of having two pieces in the film and just keep with the one Optimus took from Megatron at the end of the first film.

Long rant, but these are just some of the problems with a film I should absolutely hate but just enjoy immensely.

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Don't expect too much of a story when you have big robots that talk. This is a smash 'em up bass fest - nothing more. It will be a great 1 time watch and / or demo material disc.

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Long rant, but these are just some of the problems with a film I should absolutely hate but just enjoy immensely.

What bothered me the most was knowing what the film could have been, especially since I liked the first movie so much.

Still, it'll be great to watch at home for some killer sound (I assume).

Stephen.

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For anyone that may be interested, autographed copies of the DVD and BD of Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen are being sold on michaelbay.com with proceeds being donated to the Make a Wish Foundation.

My wish is that Michael Bay never be allowed to direct another movie.

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Day one purchase for me, I saw it in the theater and really enjoyed it. It is a check your brain at the door and enjoy the movie type of movie. I'm saying this because the sense at the end where they are in Jordan and then the Giza pyramids don't make sense at all. Anyone familiar with that area know that they are completely different countries with the Sinai Peninsula and Israel/Palestine between them. The way they traveled in car does not make sense at all but I still enjoyed the movie never the less and can't wait to own it.
I actually will buy the first one as well since I only have it on DVD and would love to get it on BD so I can have both movies

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If they are using the IMAX master, it will not matter what studio it is, because its already baked into the master.
The problem with The Dark Knight, was that the IMAX master maybe didnt help the sales, but it it didnt hurt them either.

I think people bought The Dark Knight because of the movie itself and not because the IMAX sense. I for one did not care what was on the disk or special features or whatever, I just wanted to own this amazing movie.
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It has nothing to do with supervision. Once you are familiar with edge enhancement its very easy to spot.

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+1
i don't want to watch a movie and start looking for it either, i watch a movie for the movie itself......but hey i'm weird like that
already have transformers 2 preordered and can't wait to see it again!

I'm with ya both.
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I loved that everone winged that there were not enough robot scenes in the first, now people say too many robots how can he win ?
I think people wanted him to fail.

Humans as a specie are never satisfied. That is why you see people complain about how cold is it in winter and once summer hits everyone is pissed that it is too hot and they run inside and turn on the AC.
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I think people bought The Dark Knight because of the movie itself and not because the IMAX sense. I for one did not care what was on the disk or special features or whatever, I just wanted to own this amazing movie.

Yes to this & all of your other points.
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Now what do you know? :P

Can you post shots from the IMAX scenes?
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Anyone familiar with that area know that they are completely different countries with the Sinai Peninsula and Israel/Palestine between them. The way they traveled in car does not make sense at all.

I would say that is the absolute least of this movie's script problems.

Stephen.

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All these screenshots and you still haven't posted the one everyone really wants to see: when Megan Fox is leaning over the bike! Come on man, stop dropping the ball.

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Why can't we just get ananswer yay or nay on this if it's included?
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Why can't we just get ananswer yay or nay on this if it's included?

I've heard nay, and frankly I would prefer it. Granted, I would want the extra footage, but all in the same aspect ratio as the rest of the movie.
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Humans as a specie are never satisfied.

Not to get off on a tangent, but this is pretty much the reason our civilization has progressed from living in caves to walking on the Moon. Maybe sometimes we are a pain in the ass to each other, but when we stop being "never satisfied", it'll be time to pack it in.

I'm just sayin'.
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Revenge of the Fallen DVD/Blu-ray Imax Info
I spoke to Paramount today and here's the lowdown on the Imax TF2 release:

Walmart will have exclusive rights on selling the ROFT (w/ Imax) on DVD and Blu-ray.



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thanks a ton nelson!!

but only wal mart? so there actually is a difference between the others and this imax one? like is it longer?
Yes and yes.





http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum...ead.php?t=5972
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Long rant, but these are just some of the problems with a film I should absolutely hate but just enjoy immensely.

First person I've seen expressing the exact same feeling about the film as I have.

Saw all the same issues that everyone is pissed about, but nonetheless I enjoyed it just as much as the first.
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First person I've seen expressing the exact same feeling about the film as I have.

Saw all the same issues that everyone is pissed about, but nonetheless I enjoyed it just as much as the first.

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Okay, to jump out of the gate quickly... there have been floating whispers that Barricade was no where to be found in this sequel. The writers themselves said he would be seen in one form or another. What's the verdict?

- They did? Well, my best guess is when they informed us of this, he was initially in their plans and SOMEONE took him out of them. My guess will be the director, Michael Bay, since he so amply removed him from the final battle scene in the first movie. Remember Barricade, the cop car on the highway Sam points out, and he just exits the freeway like a little *****? That Barricade. He and Starscream were the only two to survive (or should I say "live through") the events there, and two years later he still hadn't done ****. My guess is he pulled over a car and a hot chick stepped out, and... well, let's just say that she got inside of him and he gave her a ride home (giggity).


Wow, uh... way to take those puns to the next level. Anyway, besides Barricade, are there honestly 46 new Transformers in the movie?

- I have no ****ing clue. It's impossible to tell most of them apart except for Optimus and the ghetto twins (there's another yellow Autobot who I constantly thought was Bumblebee). There could be 46, or there could be 12. I honestly would believe 12 if someone had said that. This is assuming you don't count the million little critters that Ravage throws up to make up Reedman.


What is the status of the Transformers at the beginning of the film?

- The Autobots have joined the military to hunt down the Decepticons. We're told the Decepticons are "doing things," but they appear to be hiding peacefully when the Autobots show up and brutally murder them.


What?

- Yeah. The Decepticons apparently aren't doing anything... then the Autobots show up, the Decepticons run for their goddamn lives, and the Autobots hunt them down and brutally murder them. It's kind of weird.


Why is the U.S. military helping them?

- Supposedly to help keep the Transformers a secret from the public. Although since the climax of the last film was a massive firefight involving 50-foot robots and took place over five miles of downtown Los Angeles (called Mission City in the last movie though for some reason called "outside of L.A." in this movie) and the beginning of this film wrecks several miles of Shanghai, China, they seem to be incredibly ****ty at their job.


How does the U.S. military help them?

- Well, not at all, actually. They just kind of come along with guns and stuff, and act like they're going to help, but the Autobots do all the work. Actually, I'll take that back... it is the military that takes down Devastator with one shot. Whoopee.


Why is the U.S. military in this movie at all, then?

- Because Michael Bay has a huge erection for jets and tanks and aircraft carriers, and considers giant robots only a necessary evil for the film. At least 15 full minutes of the film's 150-minute run time is nothing but footage of jets and tanks and planes without any robots or actual action whatsoever.


How is Sam Witwicky dragged back into the fight?

- Well, he finds a fragmented Allspark shard. You know, the Allspark that he spent all last movie being told he shouldn't give to Megatron, but when he gave it to Megatron, it killed him. That one. Anyways, the shard makes the Beef (LaBeouf) see symbols and act like more of an spaz than usual.


So the Decepticons want the shard? Why?

- Uh... to bring Megatron back to life?


What?

- That's what they said.


But the Allspark killed Megatron in the first movie.

- Yes.


... and now it can also bring him back to life?

- It is very powerful, this Allspark...


Uh huh. So what's their plan to get it?

- They send a small RC car who talks like Joe Pesci in Casino to get it.


Shouldn't they have sent Starscream or somebody?

- Look, there's another Allspark shard and they got that one anyways, so it doesn't matter.


Well, then why do they give a **** about Sam?

- The symbols in his head, the one that the shard of the Allspark gave him.


They weren't in the other shard?

- Apparently not.


Okay... so how do the Decepticons plan to get the symbols?

- Well, the Decepticons have very cunningly created a hot chick robot who they enrolled in the same college and put in the same Astronomy class as Sam with Dwight preaching like Aristotle. And they made her a huge slut.


Wait...

- Waiting...


There's a slutty Decepticon?

- Oh yes. The Decepticons apparently have an incredibly powerful slut-making program, because she has it down, man. Anyways...


Didn't Sam touch the shard and get the symbols stuck in his head on his first day of college?

- Yes.


So the Decepticons made a slutty robot to attend his college and enrolled her in classes and put her in on-campus housing just in case Sam ended up being important at some point in the future?

- Apparently. It was an elaborate plan, but it sure paid off.


How so?

- Well, not at all, actually. The slut-bot made out with him for a little bit then immediately tried to kill him, neither for any apparent motive or gain except to make Megan Fox jealous.


It sounds preposterous.

- Doesn't matter, because the Decepticons use the shard piece they do have to resurrect Megatron! He's back! Ooo! Scary!


Why is this scary? All he wanted was the Allspark, and now it's gone.

- Because he has a boss! He's called The Fallen, mostly because he's so evil! He has this diabolical plan to use a machine on Earth to blow up the sun and make Energon, or something... it's not very clear.


Now you're just making **** up as you go along, aren't you?

- Best not to think too much about it. Anyways, the symbols in the Beef's head are a map to where this machine exists, so the hunt is on and Sam shortly is captured by the other less slutty Decepticons in one of the many instances where Bumblebee inexplicably abandons the Beef so he can conveniently be in trouble. Then a robot called the Doctor who speaks gibberish with a German accent shoves things up Shia's nose and gets the symbols.


That's that, then, right? The Decepticons win?

- Heck naw! Because Optimus Prime saves Sam before they cut off his head, which has another treasure inside!


Really? What is that?

- No one really bothers to explain this, actually. Suffice to say, the Decepticons continue to want Sam. Oh, then Optimus Prime fights three Decepticons at once and dies.


Where the hell were the other Autobots during this fight?

- I don't know. They were with him before the fight, but then they disappear and show up right after he dies. But they appear sad about Optimus dying... marginally. I mean, they don't get any screen time or dialogue to convey any feelings or anything, but there's some sad music playing for a little bit afterward. I assume this means the robots that are off-screen are grieving.


Well then if one shard brought Megatron back to life, can't Sam just use his shard piece to resurrect Optimus?

- Yes, yes he could.


...

- ...


Well?

- He doesn't.


Why not?

- I'm not sure exactly.


Then what the hell does he do?

- He decides get those symbols that were in his head translated to figure out what the Fallen's up to.


Which Autobot does the translating?

- Err... none of them. Actually, it's John Turturro.


WTF?!

- Yeah, since he was laid off from his super-secret government agent job, he now works in a New York deli and runs a super-popular Transformers conspiracy theory website... like ya do.


And why couldn't an Autobot translate these symbols?

- Because Bumblebee is inexplicably mute and the ghetto twins are 'poor black robots from the slums of Cybertron' who never learned how to read. It's a sad commentary on Cybertronian society. Like The Wire, actually.


Where the hell are the other Autobots?

- I don't know. Away, I guess. They seem to be unable to be reached. They're probably grieving about Optimus still. Clearly, John Turturro is the reasonable solution here.


So Turturro translates the symbols... (?)

- No, that would be silly. He does, in an incredibly bizarre series of connecting the dots, lead them to Jetfire, an elderly and deceased Transformer whose corpse is hanging out in the Air & Space Museum.


What good is he if he is dead?

- Ah, remember the shard? Sam uses it to bring Jetfire back to life!


Not Optimus?

- No! This way, Sam can get the symbols translated so he can... er... find the ancient machine that can... uh... possibly bring Optimus back to life.


You have got to be ****ing kidding me.

- Moving on! Jetfire teleports everyone to Egypt, including some of the missing Autobots.


Wait, what? Teleports?

- Yes, teleports. You know... POOF!


Transformers don't teleport.

- Ah, but Jetfire does.


But wait a second, he's a ****ing jet! He could fly everybody to Egypt, right? And that would make perfect sense for both the character and the franchise!

- Well, I guess so. But he chooses not to. The point is Jetfire teleports them all to Egypt where he explains that there used to be 6 or 7 Primes, and they traveled around the galaxy blowing up suns for Energon. But they never did it on planets with life. Well, they had set the machine up on Earth and not noticed all the life running around, but one of the Primes just said: "**** it, let's do it anyways." This was evil, so they called that Prime 'The Fallen' and beat the **** out of him... although he escaped.


Okay...

- So that other mysterious reason that the Decepticons wanted Sam's brain? It's because it contains some very vague clues about the Matrix of Leadership, which is the device that turns on the sun-exploding machine. The Fallen needs the Matrix to blow up the sun and get his Energon.


Hold on. That's what the Matrix of Leadership does in the movie?

- Yes. Works the sun-exploding machine.


I'm fuzzy on how "Leadership" covers that.

- I didn't name it. But it does sound a little nicer than "Matrix of Blowing Up the ****ing Sun and All That Is Holy." If I may continue, in order to protect the Earth, the 6 - 7 other Primes hid the Matrix on Earth and made a tomb with their own bodies. Isn't that cool?


...

- ...


No, no it is not. If they wanted to protect Earth, why did they leave the Matrix on the planet? They're a space-faring race, they could have hid it anywhere in galaxy! Second of all, what the **** does making a tomb of their own bodies do? Shouldn't they have stayed alive to protect the Matrix? Or finish off the Fallen? Or just not die and leave Earth and the entire Transformer race in jeopardy?

- No no... you see, that would be LOGICAL. You can't spell that in a Michael Bay movie.


And why hide the Matrix at all? Don't they need Energon to survive? Didn't they say they go to other lifeless planets? These idiot Primes just doomed their whole species for no ****ing reason whatsoever! No wonder the Decepticons are so pissed.

- Ahem... MOVING ON. Eventually, Sam and crew find the Matrix, which instantly crumbles into dust. Sam puts the dust in a sock because he thinks it will bring Optimus back to life.


Grr.

- What follows is the most spectacular part of the movie, as Sam and Mikaela try to run the several miles back to the military camp during a massive Decepticon attack where the military has dropped Optimus Prime's corpse.


Why is that awesome? They could drive back in one of the Autobots and be there in a minute or two.

- They don't do that.


What?

- They walk.


Oh. of course they do! And I assume the Autobots just mysteriously disappear again until a second before a Decepticon is about to kill Sam, eh?

- Yes. Exactly.


Oh my dear lord. I am already incredibly sick of this movie, and I'm just typing questions about it. Sam resurrects Optimus, Optimus kills the Fallen, end of story... riiiiiight?

- Pretty close. Sam dies, though.


Whoa! Really?

- Yeah, for a little while. But then the Transformers in heaven send him back because he still has work to do... as he has a predetermined DESTINY.


**** you.

- Don't shoot the messenger.


There's... there's no way.

- It's true. The 6 or so Primes are there in the clouds like Mufasa's head in The Lion King, and tell Sam he's awesome and he needs to live again so he can bring Optimus back to life.


I may be ill.

- Then Jetfire appears out of nowhere and rips out his own heart right in front of Optimus to give him his elderly old robot powers. This makes Optimus into a flying bad-ass (and yes, he truly is a bad-ass at this point in the film) who defeats the Megatron and Starscream and the Fallen in a little less than two minutes. After the last 30 minutes of the movie have been nothing but explosions (not all of which have any obvious causes), it's a bit disappointing.


Anything else you want to add?

- Well, only that although Sam jams the Matrix of Leadership into Optimus Prime's chest to resurrect him, a Decepticon takes it out like ten seconds later and Optimus is fine. Just a little weird is all.


Can you give me any reason I would want to see this film in theaters?

- I can't answer every question, man.



*** BONUS ROUND! ***



So it's not as bad as ****ting your pants?

- Marginally. I honestly had to make a pro and con list to figure it out.


Why on Earth would anyone make a film about giant robots but have myriad scenes of some random douchebag's first day of college?

- I don't have the faintest clue... but Shia LaBeouf is far from a douchebag. He IS Louis Stevens, after all.


Could there have been more trite, less inspired song for Bumblebee to play when Sam says he's going to college than The Pointer Sisters' "I'm So Excited?"

- No. No there could not.


Why can't Bumblebee talk, but the other Autobots can?

- Because Bumblebee is retarded, but in a Sling Blade kind of a way. This explains how he kills the living **** out of a Decepticon later.


Why does Sam's mom buy and consume a pot brownie?

- Well, Sam's mom was in a coma for the last 30+ years, which explains how she had never heard of marijuana and why she didn't understand the consequences of eating it even after her husband specifically told her it was a pot brownie (Sam was unfortunately conceived and born during this period). A better question is why any college student in America would be selling pot brownies at an on-campus bake sale, let alone to a middle-aged woman.


A lot was made of how Shia the Beef's hand injury was written into the film. How was this done?

- Well, sometimes Shia had a huge bandage on his hand, and sometimes he didn't.


That doesn't sound "written in" at all.

- Well, no actual words are used to explain it. It might be more accurate to say it "shows up sometimes."


Why would a robot need to fart, pee, or vomit? And why would it need testicles?

- Michael Bay does not understand what a robot is.


What is the point of the character of Sam's college roommate, and why the **** does he stay for the entirety of the movie?

- I have no clue. He's not comedy relief, because that's covered by 90% of the Transformers themselves. He technically leads the Beef to John Turturro, but surely there could have been another way to do that. Besides, Turturro just leads them to Jetfire anyways. It's all extraneous.


Why can only a Prime kill the Fallen? Why can Jetfire teleport? Why can the Fallen wave a staff and make **** fly around? Why do actual cars and Autobots get sucked into Devastator's maw, but John Turturro and that other kid can run around?

- Because you touch yourself at night. [yes, I stole that from Family Guy]


Can you explain Megan Fox's appeal?

- I'll try: She looks like a porn star and has the same acting talent as one, yet for some reason she makes mainstream movies. This tonal disconnect is what's so appealing about her.


If you had to pick a single scene that exemplifies Michael Bay's utter disdain for story and continuity, what would it be?

- When five Decepticons sink to the bottom of the ocean to retrieve Megatron's corpse. A submarine tracks five "subjects" going down, and when they get there, one of the Decepticons is killed to give parts to Megatron. 5 - 1 +1 = 5, right? No, because the submarine somehow tracks "six" subjects coming up. Not only is this very basic math, this is the simplest of script errors. It could not possibly have been more than one page apart in the script. And yet Michael Bay either didn't care to notice or didn't give a ****. As Michael Bay would say: "Math? Math is for pus**es. My movies are about **** blowing up, man!"


Could you sum up the film in one line of its dialogue?

"I am standing directly beneath the enemy's scrotum."




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I read every single word of that and loved it.
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I read every single word of that and loved it.

Ditto. It was like a preemptive RiffTrax of the movie.

We have our heading. Here we gooooooo!
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This is such a polarizing movie. Seems few people can just tolerate it. They either really liked it or absolutely despise it.

Personally, I thought it was an atrocity committed against mankind, but I'm still looking forward to hearing it at home. Hell, I'm the guy who bought the Eric Bana Hulk movie on DVD and HD-DVD, just for the sound alone. That may just make me the most pathetic human being on the planet, but I LOVE great sound...even at the expense of a few I.Q. points.

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