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maybe I will have to break down and buy the Japanese version of WoG...

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I received 5 of the Japanese import Blu-rays of the newly released Godzilla movies this week and watched them over the past few evenings. As I'm really primarily a fan of the 50's and 60's films, that's what I concentrated on this round which along with the previously released BDs from Japan a couple years ago, now rounds out my BD series collection up to "Destroy All Monsters."

Anyone familiar with Toho's region 2 Japanese DVD releases form over a decade ago will find few surprises in these Blu-ray releases. They all port over most of the extras and audio commentaries as well as the various 2001 - 2003 5.1 "remixed" audio tracks with movies like KK vs G and GRA including music and sound effects only audio track options. Like the older DVDs, the transfers run from "OK" to pretty good when you get into the mid 60's films.

The only real shocker is how bad the transfer is for "King Kong vs Godzilla." It uses the same digitally reconstructed source that's been used for all vhs, laserdisc and dvd releases (in Japan) since 1984 which was incredibly dodgy to begin with, but Toho went back and did some terrible contrast boosting, edge enhancement, color re-timing, etc for the HD release that results in the new BD looking awful. There's some instances where there's more detail visible in the image, but then there's horrible color timing that results in the image looking like a old 8mm brown sepia-toned home movie (the scene where Godzilla and Kong start battling on Mt Fuji). As several film sources were used to originally cobble together this uncut print in the mid 80's including a well worn 16mm rental, colors, contrast, detail etc shift wildly from scene to scene, sometimes in the *middle* of a shot. Many scenes sport massive halo'ing and ringing due to the contrast being pushed so high... it's a hot mess.

I rate the overall image/transfer quality as such 1 to 5, 5 being best:

Godzilla Raids Again - 3.0 (good print, a bit light without solid black levels)

King Kong vs Godzilla - 1.0 (terrible print, amateurish, dated and heavy-handed digital tinkering, upscaled vhs tape quality in places)

Invasion of the Astro Monsters - 4.0 (solid print and transfer, a little rough around the edges)

Son Of Godzilla - 4.0 (same as IOTAM, but a better shot film resulting in a tad nicer, sharper print)

Destroy All Monsters - 4.5 (very good print and transfer, better than US Media Blasters BD release)
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Last three titles are definetwly worth taking a look and owning... I dont even enjoy the titles enough to care about them.

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Should this thread be moved into this thread?


1954 Godzilla 4k remastered from original real-to-real


It seems the thread above is not correctly placed. I think they're talking about the movie, not just a soundtrack.

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Yes... I read that a few days ago. Glad I didnt buy the criterion 1954 bd

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Yes... I read that a few days ago. Glad I didnt buy the criterion 1954 bd
If you read my post on that thread, you'll see I just ordered the Criterion version a few days ago. It is from the original camera negative and so will be the new 4k one. The question is, will the 4k be more cleaned up (while of course retaining all grain and information) when compared to Criterion's 2k version of the same original camera negative? I don't know if anyone will know that till we start seeing some results from the new scan. Since I have not seen the Criterion version as of yet, I can only go by what I have read. I understand the Criterion version at this moment is the definitive HD version of the movie though I have read most (not all) flaws were fixed. It will be interesting to compare the two. Also when you think about it, we've come very far in what's available for that movie (quality wise) in such a short time.


Does anyone have any idea when the new 4k version be out, when we might start seeing comparisons between the 2k and 4k versions and will it be available for the American region?

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If you read my post on that thread, you'll see I just ordered the Criterion version a few days ago. It is from the original camera negative and so will be the new 4k one. The question is, will the 4k be more cleaned up (while of course retaining all grain and information) when compared to Criterion's 2k version of the same original camera negative? I don't know if anyone will know that till we start seeing some results from the new scan. Since I have not seen the Criterion version as of yet, I can only go by what I have read. I understand the Criterion version at this moment is the definitive HD version of the movie though I have read most (not all) flaws were fixed. It will be interesting to compare the two. Also when you think about it, we've come very far in what's available for that movie (quality wise) in such a short time.


Does anyone have any idea when the new 4k version be out, when we might start seeing comparisons between the 2k and 4k versions and will it be available for the American region?
First off, Toho Japan *just* released the rest of their Godzilla films on Blu-ray this Summer. It's going to be years before Toho will release new (4k) remasters of the Godzilla series.

As noted in the article, their techs simply went through and took a minute from each of the 28-odd films to scan and "clean up" as sort of a half hour demo of what kind of work and improvements can be accomplished doing this. It doesn't sound like they've started actual work on this massive project and it will undoubtedly take several years to finish. In addition to the time, it will also cost a *lot* of money, something Toho has been stingy with since day one.

I would go ahead and buy the Criterion BD. The Japanese print features some damage and there's really no pristine source for the film left in Toho's vaults (as noted in the article) but it looks solid for what it is. Plus you get the US version in a recently discovered very good quality print.
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