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post #1 of 59 Old 12-02-2009, 05:08 AM - Thread Starter
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Looks like these are finally getting a worldwide release in Feb.

Finally!!

Hopefully Universal will start releasing some other HD DVD titles.

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Both titles looked great on HD-DVD! Looking forward to the DTS-HD MA soundtracks, though these are both primarily dialogue-driven movies.

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post #3 of 59 Old 12-02-2009, 07:49 AM
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both had TrueHD on HD DVD so not sure what benefit DTS MA is? doubt ill double sip as bothe looked awesome on HD DVD.
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Any idea if these are Blu-ray and DVD Dual-Format discs?
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Yes!!!! Finally!! My last 2 fave HD-DVD's are finally coming to Blu.
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both had TrueHD on HD DVD so not sure what benefit DTS MA is? doubt ill double sip as bothe looked awesome on HD DVD.

Same here. The True HD soundtracks are quite vivid on the HD DVD. Plus, I got Elizabeth TGA for a song and do not feel the need to pay any more for it as it looks and sounds fine on HD DVD (I also though it not as good a film as the first one).
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I don't think he was arguing the merits of either, it's that Universal BDs are now using DTS-HD:MA for lossless, and he's looking forward to that lossless track.

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I don't think he was arguing the merits of either, it's that Universal BDs are now using DTS-HD:MA for lossless, and he's looking forward to that lossless track.

Yeah, I'm not expecting a real improvement in the audio department since the HD-DVD releases already had lossless soundtracks. I'm not sure if I'm going to double-dip on these yet. I've only been looking to replace my combo HD-DVDs lately and I'm not as interested in Elizabeth TGA as the first one.

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I will replace both of the HD DVDs with the BDs. The faster I can get rid of that bad memory, called an HD DVD (and the player), the better. These HD DVD machines won't be supported forever, and when it dies and can't be replaced, those HD DVD disks will become toasters.
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I don't know whether or not I want to replace a flipper with another flipper.

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I don't know whether or not I want to replace a flipper with another flipper.


Imports?
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Imports?

Elizabeth: TGA was an HD DVD combo flipper disc, and now that Universal is getting back into the flipper business, I anticipate the BR version to be a flipper as well.

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Elizabeth: TGA was an HD DVD combo flipper disc, and now that Universal is getting back into the flipper business, I anticipate the BR version to be a flipper as well.


TGA was a normal HD DVD in Europe.
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If it means I have to import to not get flippers, so be it.

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Sounds like both films will arrive on April 27th.

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Both Blu-rays will arrive on a non-flipper BD-50 disc and will feature 1080p video and a DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 soundtrack.


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I picked up the first Elizabeth film and was not terribly impressed; it's got EE, noise (in spots) and DNR. I haven't compared it with the HD DVD version yet but I can post screencaps if people like.
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I picked up the first Elizabeth film and was not terribly impressed; it's got EE, noise (in spots) and DNR. I haven't compared it with the HD DVD version yet but I can post screencaps if people like.

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I dont recall Elizabeth having EE on the HD-DVD version. If I'm not mistaken it was quite a solid transfer. I'll be picking them both up once the price drops a little more.
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Great films, sometimes I feel like watching them again after watching The Tudors.
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Here's a bunch of screenshots from the Universal blu-ray. What annoys me is that the use of DNR was not needed as they gave it a bitrate that stays in the high 20's.

It should also be noted that the audio is great (and has a bitrate that hovers around 4mbs for most of the film).

EDIT: I just looked at my HD-DVD version and it looks identical to the blu-ray (same DNR and minor EE issues) so Universal used the same master as they did for the HD-DVD. Although I commend them on not adding more DNR, this is a sad excuse for a blu-ray. To add insult to injury, the HD-DVD has 1/2 the bit-rate the blu-ray did. Unfortunately I cannot post comparisons as I can't get MPC HC to do screenshots.

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It seems that there was a problem with my computer when I took the screenshots and they did not accurately reflect the quality of the film. As a result, blu-ray.com's review is the best place for screenshots.
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Better than the DVD, but disappointing for Blu-ray.
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Nice oil paintings.
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I dont recall Elizabeth having EE on the HD-DVD version. If I'm not mistaken it was quite a solid transfer. I'll be picking them both up once the price drops a little more.

It had EE on HD-DVD. Looked processed and not very film like.
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Wow, these look worse than Star Trek VI.

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Those are not blu-ray screenshots. They're Victorian age paintings. DNR at its worst!
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I've now watched both Elizabeth and Elizabeth TGA on UK Bluray. Can't comment on EE and DNR, but the black level on TGA seemed very high and I had to wind it down on the display compared to Elizabeth to compensate. I don't recall having to do this on my HD-DVD.
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I did break my rule and pick up both on Blu-ray...but will return to Amazon if they are crap. Really hope we get more screenshots/reviews on these soon.
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Oddly enough, Universal didn't send out review copies of either film.

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There is a total disconnect between the review and what the screenshots actually show.
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