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Update: September 13, 2010 release date confirmed for the U.K.

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Sure, it might not be YOUR movie of the last ten years, but apparently at least five different critic groups and film organizations selected it as #1 for the years '00-'09.

In any case, it's confirmed to be coming out sometime this year on Blu-ray:

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French distributor StudioCanal has produced a trailer to promote its Blu-ray catalog of classic movies from the StudioCanal Collection. Apart from the titles already released, the studio encourages us to "look out for more titles in 2010." Two upcoming films are specifically featured and mentioned in the trailer: Michael Powell's Peeping Tom and David Lynch's Mulholland Drive.

It's in my top ten of the last decade, and is definitely worth checking out if you are into unconventional films.

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It looks really nice on D-Theater tape.

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Please let there be scene selections!

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Its a good but odd film.

Would love for someone to explain it all to me...
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^^^ Hopefully no spoilers are posted for people who have yet to see it, but I suggest watching it a few times to see if some of the themes start to make more sense.

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One of my favorites. I'm not hoping for much as far as the blu-ray goes but hopefully it's at least decent.
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Its a good but odd film.

Would love for someone to explain it all to me...


There are volumes written about this movie.
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I had thee US DVD but also bought the French Studio Canal DVD release because it had interviews, making-ofs etc - however, the PQ on the French release was markedly inferior to the US release. Hope they don't use the same master for their Blu-Ray. Great movie, Lynch's best !
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Yeah, the U.S. DVD is perhaps the most barebones flick I have. There are no extras and it doesn't even have a chapter select. I'm looking forward to seeing what they include in this one.

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Yeah, the U.S. DVD is perhaps the most barebones flick I have. There are no extras and it doesn't even have a chapter select. I'm looking forward to seeing what they include in this one.

Wasn't the HD-DVD import the same? No chapter select? I think that was the only thing that stopped me from importing it and upgrading my DVD copy.

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Lynch abhors chapter stops and specifically requests that they not be included on video releases of his films. He reasons that his films "aren't books" and should be taken in as a whole.

Not saying I agree with him either way, but that's the explanation for their absence.
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I would actually put this on my worst of the decade list.
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I read that Lynch purposefully softened/blurred/darkened the genital area nudity of Laura Elena Harring in the DVD to protect her from embarrassment from screencaps, but I don't know if he would do that with the Blu-Ray, as it would be more obvious, I would think.

As for Lynch and Blu-Ray, I can't imagine that INLAND EMPIRE would benefit much from Blu-Ray, as the non-HD videocamera used to film it has a resolution about on par with what SD DVDs do, though I guess a Blu-Ray might eliminate some of the ringing that I read is a consequence of the MPEG encoding formula used for SD DVDs.
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I would actually put this on my worst of the decade list.

I'd have to watch this again since it's been so long but "movie of the decade" is a joke.
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I read that Lynch purposefully softened/blurred/darkened the genital area nudity of Laura Elena Harring in the DVD to protect her from embarrassment from screencaps, but I don't know if he would do that with the Blu-Ray, as it would be more obvious, I would think.

It was blurred on the HD-DVD too.
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Would love for someone to explain it all to me...

On my 3rd viewing, the pieces started coming together. When I saw it the 4th time, it all made sense. There is no point me trying to explan it, since they are all over the Internet.

It is one of my favorite movies of all-time. Assuming that they don't mess up the BD, I will definitely buy it.
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not sure whether really the top of the decade, but at least among the top3.
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The french HDDVD at least was uncensored. The US DVD was "edited for content". I hate the way they butcher DVDs here in the states, hopefully we'll get full uncencored version on Blu-ray
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The french HDDVD at least was uncensored. The US DVD was "edited for content". I hate the way they butcher DVDs here in the states, hopefully we'll get full uncencored version on Blu-ray

Really? What was censored or edited in the SD DVD of Mulholland Drive? I don't recall seeing those words anywhere on the box or when viewing the film. I guess I'll have to look at the box again.

Neither of the reviews at DVD Talk mention that it's been edited.
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It was blurred on the HD-DVD too.

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The french HDDVD at least was uncensored.

I have the UK HD DVD, and I can tell you that it was censored. I sincerely doubt the French HD DVD transfer is any different, so how sure of that statement are you?
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Its a good but odd film.

Would love for someone to explain it all to me...

I don't think any Lynch movie can be fully explained
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I don't think any Lynch movie can be fully explained

This one is easy. Lynch shot a pilot for a television series that ABC didn't pick up. That's why there are no obscenities in the beginning of the film. That's also why when they find the body, the scene ends with a cheesy swirly effect you only see on television. And that's why that section of the film abruptly ends as if the credits were about to roll.

Lynch scraped some money together to shoot some more footage to turn the rejected television pilot into a feature film. That's why after they find the body, suddenly the movie gets very sexually explicit and why there's lots of filler like the woman singing "Crying" in Spanish. That's why we suddenly see characters who we didn't see since the beginning of the film -- they were going to be developed in subsequent episodes.

Those are the facts. You can admire how Lynch took a failed television project and with a little artistic license and even less money managed to salvage it by turning it into a confusing film open to interpretation. Or you may just have trouble fusing the television pilot with the additional footage since they're different in so many ways and wished Lynch had started all over with a more complete idea.

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I have the UK HD DVD, and I can tell you that it was censored. I sincerely doubt the French HD DVD transfer is any different, so how sure of that statement are you?

I have the French HD DVD and it's blurred. It's identical to the UK HD DVD. When the discs starts you can choose between English and French Menus.
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I have the French HD DVD and it's blurred. It's identical to the UK HD DVD. When the discs starts you can choose between English and French Menus.




I also have the French HD DVD and it looks like the whole film is blurred. One of the worst HD transfers that I've ever seen, it actually looked worse than the DVD.
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I read that Lynch purposefully softened/blurred/darkened the genital area nudity of Laura Elena Harring in the DVD to protect her from embarrassment from screencaps, but I don't know if he would do that with the Blu-Ray, as it would be more obvious, I would think.

Lynch explained in a chat session on his website shortly after MD's DVD release that he had an understanding with Laura Harring about what would be visible in the scene in question. Of course, on your TV, or on a computer monitor, you can manipulate the black level, or have it set up incorrectly, or take a screen capture and mess with the levels. This is why DL blurred the area in question; however, if you're seeing the blurring, the black levels are not where they should be. I'd expect any future home video release of MD, including HD, would have the same treatment in that one scene.
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Right On!

A lack of digital blurring would be nice too. You did the scene, Laura. And to think that your foliage is so much more impressive of all the foliage available out there on home video and the inernet, that men will spend all their time blowing it up to giant proportions and oogling - it's a bit narcicistic. Lose the blurry. It's infantile.
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it is ridiculous to call this one of the best movies of the last decade when its small fanbase openly admits that they have no idea what is happening. the rotten tomatoes consensus quote is amusing: "Mulholland Drive makes little sense, even for a Lynch film, but its dreamlike imagery is mesmerizing, and Watts delivers a great performance."

i'm all for movies that leave some room for viewer interpretation, but lynch takes it too far.

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it is ridiculous to call this one of the best movies of the last decade when its small fanbase openly admits that they have no idea what is happening.

How so?
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it is ridiculous to call this one of the best movies of the last decade when its small fanbase openly admits that they have no idea what is happening. the rotten tomatoes consensus quote is amusing: "Mulholland Drive makes little sense, even for a Lynch film, but its dreamlike imagery is mesmerizing, and Watts delivers a great performance."

i'm all for movies that leave some room for viewer interpretation, but lynch takes it too far.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2hVmI9k9so

I wouldn't say fans like me have NO idea what's going on. I have my idea, he has his idea, she has her idea, etc. Everyone has different takes that are often along common themes, but taken as a whole helps make more sense of it all than it first seems. Part of the appeal is that it is near impossible to "get it" the first time you see it, but it does start to come together after a few viewings.

Think of it this way: you can hook up with a girl and be happy that she gives it all up to you on the first date, but you often have more respect for the one that makes you earn it over time.

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NOWHERE on my SD DVD (US/Region 1) of Mulholland Drive - neither the box, the inside slip, nor the opening of the movie or the menu screens - does it say that it's been edited or censored.

I do not know what people are talking about when they say the U.S. version was edited for content or censored.
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