Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind Blu-ray Release - Page 5 - AVS Forum
Forum Jump: 
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #121 of 142 Old 03-21-2011, 10:52 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Faceless Rebel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,387
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 10
If Disney really doesn't want my money, they can keep holding back on Princess Mononoke. Although that depends on a putative JP release, I don't believe that movie has gone through the restoration and remastering process for an HD archival/release at Ghibli yet.
Faceless Rebel is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #122 of 142 Old 03-22-2011, 05:23 AM
AVS Special Member
 
paku's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Sweden
Posts: 1,618
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
All of the Ghibli films have actually already been transferred to HD, but this was ages ago and the existing masters are rubbish across the board.

Judging by Nausicaa and Laputa they will be re-transferring all of them, thankfully, so I don't think they're holding anything back as much as simply taking their time and spacing the releases out.
paku is offline  
post #123 of 142 Old 03-22-2011, 08:47 PM
Member
 
JaDed06's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 25
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
So my knowledge about these techniques is pretty limited, but from what I understand nausicaa and the earlier ghibli films had their cels filmed on 35 mm or whatever, and this is the source to make new masters. The original animation cels are long gone. The newer films use computers to cut together the cels into a digital master, right? I'm just wondering if anyone knows at what point they started to use computer... I assume besides Ponyo it would be maybe just howl and spirited away?
JaDed06 is offline  
post #124 of 142 Old 03-22-2011, 11:14 PM
Senior Member
 
Kentai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 470
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by JaDed06 View Post

I'm just wondering if anyone knows at what point they started to use computer... I assume besides Ponyo it would be maybe just howl and spirited away?

Everything from 1999 onward, starting with My Neighbors The Yamadas would be digitally animated. That includes The Cat's Return and Tales from Earthsea, too (not that anyone cares. )
Kentai is offline  
post #125 of 142 Old 03-23-2011, 07:20 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Gekkou's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,003
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Faceless Rebel View Post

If Disney really doesn't want my money, they can keep holding back on Princess Mononoke. Although that depends on a putative JP release, I don't believe that movie has gone through the restoration and remastering process for an HD archival/release at Ghibli yet.

They seem to be releasing them in chronological order, so it could be a while. I really hope they announce more of them soon because Princess Mononoke is my favorite as well. I don't care, I'll pay the exorbitant Japanese pricing and get expedited shipping on that one.

As I understand it, the entire Ghibli library was sent to Panasonic Hollywood Labs for HD mastering after Miyazaki saw how well they treated Ponyo.

"Out of the mists of history, the legendary Esquilax! A horse with the head of a rabbit... and the body... of a rabbit."
Gekkou is offline  
post #126 of 142 Old 03-23-2011, 10:51 AM
Member
 
aquastar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: michigan
Posts: 115
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 12
Regarding Princess Mononoke: I watched Nausicaa with a friend (who loved it) and went into the extras to watch other Ghibli trailors. There was an icon indicating Princess Mononoke, but could not be activated. Has anyone had any sucess with this? The reason I ask this is that Princess Mononoke was released through Miramax and not Disney. At the time Miramax was associated with Disney. They soon parted ways. I cannot recall who releases Miramax films now on blu-ray, but is PM still with Miramax or Disney? Comments please? Thank you.
aquastar is offline  
post #127 of 142 Old 04-30-2011, 09:31 AM
AVS Special Member
 
paku's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Sweden
Posts: 1,618
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Review of the UK Laputa.

Seems Optimum are intent on continuing their DNR shenanigans of the DVD era for the Ghibli library on Blu-ray as well.

UK Left. JP Right.
paku is offline  
post #128 of 142 Old 04-30-2011, 10:18 AM
AVS Special Member
 
lyris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 1,416
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 34
What's weird is that the Japanese version appears to have Dirt & Scratch Removal errors whereas the British version doesn't. Check out the lines around the guys at the top left in the background.

David Mackenzie
DVD/BD Compressionist/Author
Reviewer & Tech Consultant, HDTVtest.co.uk
lyris is offline  
post #129 of 142 Old 04-30-2011, 10:44 AM
Senior Member
 
Kentai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 470
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Curious. Do you think the unbroken outline on the guy in the background via the Optimum transfer is merely DVNR pasting it back in from surrounding frames?

It certainly could be that the JP release has additional scratch repair, but with the JP transfer having been released some time before the UK release I can only imagine Optimum would have gotten whatever 'final' master Ghibli had prepared for it.
Kentai is offline  
post #130 of 142 Old 04-30-2011, 10:56 AM
AVS Special Member
 
lyris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 1,416
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 34
Quote:


Curious. Do you think the unbroken outline on the guy in the background via the Optimum transfer is merely DVNR pasting it back in from surrounding frames?

I don't think so. That would be some incredibly heavy temporal averaging.

David Mackenzie
DVD/BD Compressionist/Author
Reviewer & Tech Consultant, HDTVtest.co.uk
lyris is offline  
post #131 of 142 Old 04-30-2011, 01:44 PM
Senior Member
 
reanimator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 385
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 17
Take a look at the "white swishes" on the grass below them -- especially on the lower left. The DNR version removes about half of the image detail in the UK release.
reanimator is offline  
post #132 of 142 Old 05-01-2011, 03:08 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
Matt_Stevens's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: NYC
Posts: 13,818
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 48
Someone please outlaw DNR. Please.

Vimeo is the home of the Super8 Shooter...
http://vimeo.com/super8shooter
Matt_Stevens is offline  
post #133 of 142 Old 05-01-2011, 03:29 PM
Member
 
DJ Mike TJG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 180
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 11
Pre-order cancelled. Hope the US release is an improvement and region free!
DJ Mike TJG is offline  
post #134 of 142 Old 05-03-2011, 03:06 PM
Member
 
aquastar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: michigan
Posts: 115
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 12
According to Ghibliwiki, Whisper of The Heart will be released on Blu-ray on July 20, in Japan. No word on UK or US release.
aquastar is offline  
post #135 of 142 Old 05-03-2011, 11:38 PM
AVS Special Member
 
PENDRAG0ON's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,439
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 547
Quote:
Originally Posted by aquastar View Post

According to Ghibliwiki, Whisper of The Heart will be released on Blu-ray on July 20, in Japan. No word on UK or US release.

YAY!

I lost my entire Ghibli collection in my house fire a month ago so these blu-ray releases can't come soon enough.

PSN - Pendragoongp
NNID - Pendragoon
Include your AVS username in the friend request.
PENDRAG0ON is offline  
post #136 of 142 Old 05-06-2011, 01:44 PM
Advanced Member
 
moothemagiccow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: NC
Posts: 881
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by aquastar View Post

According to Ghibliwiki, Whisper of The Heart will be released on Blu-ray on July 20, in Japan. No word on UK or US release.

Cool!

WiiU: moothemagiccow

PSN: moothemagiccow (duh)

moothemagiccow is offline  
post #137 of 142 Old 05-04-2012, 10:53 PM
Member
 
Shingster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 97
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Does anyone know how the US disney blu-ray Ghiblis hold up to their Japanese releases Picture-wise? Are they basically comparable barring title/credits changes?
Shingster is offline  
post #138 of 142 Old 05-05-2012, 12:37 AM
Member
 
svenge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 158
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shingster View Post

Does anyone know how the US disney blu-ray Ghiblis hold up to their Japanese releases Picture-wise? Are they basically comparable barring title/credits changes?

The consensus is they're basically comparable despite the somewhat lower video bitrate.
svenge is offline  
post #139 of 142 Old 05-05-2012, 08:19 AM
Member
 
Shingster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 97
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Thanks svenge, god I hate how strong the Yen is right now!

It really is crazy to think that to own the entire Ghibli range on Japanese BD (when they're all out) you're probably going looking at a total expenditure of over £800/$1200! Why can't korea get their Blu-ray market going!
Shingster is offline  
post #140 of 142 Old 05-05-2012, 08:22 AM
AVS Special Member
 
PENDRAG0ON's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,439
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 547
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shingster View Post

Thanks svenge, god I hate how strong the Yen is right now!

It really is crazy to think that to own the entire Ghibli range on Japanese BD (when they're all out) you're probably going looking at a total expenditure of over £800/$1200! Why can't korea get their Blu-ray market going!

Hong Kong releases are official but are sub only. (Japanese releases have the English dub included) they are a fair amount cheaper as well. (check playasia to get an idea of pricing)

PSN - Pendragoongp
NNID - Pendragoon
Include your AVS username in the friend request.
PENDRAG0ON is offline  
post #141 of 142 Old 05-05-2012, 08:30 AM
Member
 
Shingster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 97
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Is it IVL handling those releases though? I was looking at them but I'm a bit skeptical as to how they may have been handled/compressed. IIRC wasn't Ponyo 1080i?

Actually redid the math, and at Y6800 a title it would be over £1000/$1600 to own the full collection once it's out!
Shingster is offline  
post #142 of 142 Old 05-14-2012, 01:39 AM
Member
 
svenge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 158
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 11
Ponyo wasn't handled well by IVL, but all the other releases to date have been excellent. The one IVL release that you should strongly consider is Laputa. It's been shown that the US release coming out on May 22 is dub-titled (i.e. it passes off the adapted dub script as the literal translation to the Japanese audio track), but the HK BD release has the exact same 1080p @ 33 mbps video encode and lossless Japanese DTS-HD MA audio as the expensive JP BD release, along with proper literal subtitles. The only thing it lacks is an English dub (it has Mandarin and Cantonese ones instead), but I'm a sub-watcher so it's no big deal for me. Here's a breakdown of the various releases:

JP: English dub, literal English subtitles, 1080p @ 33 mbps video w/o DNR, region-free.
HK: No English dub, literal English subtitles, 1080p @ 33 mbps video w/o DNR, Region-"A" locked.
UK: English dub, literal English subtitles, 1080p @ 26 mbps video w/ DNR, Region-"B" locked.
US: English dub, inaccurate dub-titles, 1080p @ 24 mbps video w/o DNR, Region-"A" locked.
svenge is offline  
Reply Blu-ray Software

User Tag List

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off