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I don't think so - too many Big EYEs on this one. Scott, Cameron?

Do you really think the studio is letting some half-assed people handle the product
of their biggest payday director in history? Then there's Scott about to get back in space
right on the heels of Cameron with 2 films on the same franchise.

huh?

did you see gladiator? that was scott too.and what happened there?
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I saw this at the BD site talking about the set's details. Bold emphasis is mine.

20th Century Fox claims that the four Alien films have been "reinvigorated for an intense Blu-ray high-definition viewing experience."

I'm sorry, but that is a huge red flag for me.

Me too, even with Cameron being a Blu-ray fan.
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I saw this at the BD site talking about the set's details. Bold emphasis is mine.

20th Century Fox claims that the four Alien films have been "reinvigorated for an intense Blu-ray high-definition viewing experience."

I'm sorry, but that is a huge red flag for me.

"Predatorized."

Back off man, I'm a scientist.
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"Predatorized."

The movie came out before Predator.. so.. Predatorized++?
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hopefully they have a preview of this at comic-con.
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He should also approve the encode so we don't get another one of these:

Acutally the encodes are very related to the master. If they had a well made master, the need for dnr and sharpening wouldnt be that big.
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Where is the Wreckage and Rage on the DVD set? is it just the name for the multi part doc?



All I want to know for sure before I pre-order is that Cameron signed off on the Aliens transfer, and Alien lives up to the D-theater tape.

Also that Alien Resurection has the Bleach Bypass timing the laserdisc had and not the odd non timed version that the HDTV and DVD versions have.



One more thing I wondered was about the sound mixes.

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English DD4.0 Surround and English Dolby Surround (Alien & Aliens)

Will these be the OG mix on Alien (six track 70mm) without the center that was made later?
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Unfortunately, I have to wait for some reviews to come in on this given what they did to Predator.

If the transfers are great and ACCURATE I will have no problems whatsoever with the price... the extras are amazing (even if many are recycled). I would LOVE to support Blu-ray and these movies, but not if pq is disfigured.

And for those arguing that Predator is not a precident I have to say that it is particularly nervewracking because it's a movie from a related series and it was pimped out as being a fantastic new transfer. The Alien movies were likely mastered before any review backlash Predator received, so I am concerned that they may share the same philosophy (particularly Aliens).

I really hope that having big name directors (much bigger than McTiernan seems to be) who seem a little more concerned with their work will cause Fox to not run this one through the magic detail eraser.

But the grain "issues" with Aliens still concern me that they will tamper...
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97.99 on amazon - lol is all i can say. Are you kidding me? This should not have been more than $60 msrp.

Keep in mind you get 4 movies. If they were priced @ $20/each that would be $80 right there. They are never going to go down to $15/each.
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But I bought the six disc X-men set from Fox for £34.99 so the logic does not follow.
One less movie but the same amount of discs
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I must wait for reviews. If these are perfect, I will pay the asking price. Frankly, I don't trust Fox and I also don't trust that just because Cameron "has final say" that we're safe from getting Predatorized releases. T2 is pretty waxy...
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new cgi aliens for the first and second films to better match the aliens from III and IV....?

Gawd, I hope NOT
Please no CGI "enhancements"!!!!

And "reinvigorated"? Marketing speak for "we've messed with the transfer". Maybe good or maybe bad.

I definitely am NOT pre-ordering until at least 1 review is in. They'll still be plenty available if the release really is great. Sorry, but the mutilation of older films has to stop. The only way to send the message to Fox is NOT to give money upfront to the retailers. When initial orders are lower than expected....THAT will get their attention.

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I saw this at the BD site talking about the set's details. Bold emphasis is mine.

20th Century Fox claims that the four Alien films have been "reinvigorated for an intense Blu-ray high-definition viewing experience."

I'm sorry, but that is a huge red flag for me.

"Reinvigorated" = grain-free waxfest?

That's NOT what I wanted to hear. Be afraid indeed. Be VERY afraid.
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Gawd, I hope NOT
Please no CGI "enhancements"!!!!

And "reinvigorated"? Marketing speak for "we've messed with the transfer". Maybe good or maybe bad.

I definitely am NOT pre-ordering until at least 1 review is in. They'll still be plenty available if the release really is great. Sorry, but the mutilation of older films has to stop. The only way to send the message to Fox is NOT to give money upfront to the retailers. When initial orders are lower than expected....THAT will get their attention.

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"Reinvigorated" = grain-free waxfest?

That's NOT what I wanted to hear. Be afraid indeed. Be VERY afraid.

Let's not let the FUD get out of control. While we have reasons to doubt, we don't have proof of anything yet.
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frankly, i don't trust fox

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Keep in mind you get 4 movies. If they were priced @ $20/each that would be $80 right there. They are never going to go down to $15/each.

Not only that, there are 6 discs; so he was posting he thought they should street at $10US a disc.
(I don't know bout "never" tho/can't believe I see "BR" at Fry's for $12.99US! )
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(hurts too say that for two reasons! ;-) )
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They really loaded up on the extras too shove the 'other' two down our throats.
It just may work.
(there are quite a few, more than I ever thought, titles were I enjoy the 'making of' as much as the flick)
(and then there's the "Special Packaging" crowd that can't help themselves )
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Too say this will look GREAT just because there are two BIG names associated w/this franchise, just doesn't hold up. Both have had mis-steps on Blu, already!
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I don't need a "track record" from _OX Stud___ too prove one way or another this or any other title wont be screwed w/!
It's purely a: "What-have-you-done-for-me-lately" thing (w/transfers).

Here's hoping these trump "all" previous HD transfers!

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"Are these comfirmed to have slipcovers?"
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Let's not let the FUD get out of control. While we have reasons to doubt, we don't have proof of anything yet.

No we don't but we do have past releases to go on by what they mean by remastering

I'm not slamming them per se but I am being cautious with my money. Fox messed with many titles on my A list, like Patton, T2, Predator.

I said this already, if this were WB or Sony, I would have ZERO hesitation in preordering. Fox' track record on premiere titles like this is not too good. And that's all I or you have to go on. Past history...

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"Reinvigorated" = grain-free waxfest?

Yes.
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I'm guessing/thinking "reinvigorated" is in reference too the movies themselves.
Not the transfers.
(just fancy marketing speak ;-) / cause they luv that "remastered" term! :-0 )

"I wonder if any of the releases had slipcovers though."
"Are these comfirmed to have slipcovers?"
"They look nice in those slips."
"This slipcover looks too good to pass up."
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Oh yeah, about the possibility og CGI replacement aliens: I see Fox going all George Lucas on the set and make everything match the AVP movies; the Aliens and Predator series are now linked under the AVP banner. Add in the DR scrubbing set to "max overkill". Reinvigorated indeed for the Avatar crowd.
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Also that Alien Resurection has the Bleach Bypass timing the laserdisc had and not the odd non timed version that the HDTV and DVD versions have.

Can you elaborate on this? I have the LD for Resurrection (all of them actually) and while I thought the 5.1 sound mix was almost better than the DVD, I didn't notice anything unusual on the video side.

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Look at the colour of the water in the kitchens.
In the Cinema, and on laser its a metalic blue colour.
On dvd its more a flat light blue
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Keep in mind you get 4 movies. If they were priced @ $20/each that would be $80 right there. They are never going to go down to $15/each.

BDs are always discounted down between the announcement date and the release date.
Amazon automatically adjusts its prices to be as low as anyone out there before the release and credits your preorder.


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Let's not let the FUD get out of control. While we have reasons to doubt, we don't have proof of anything yet.

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Look at the colour of the water in the kitchens.
In the Cinema, and on laser its a metalic blue colour.
On dvd its more a flat light blue

Not to be disagreeable, but was there anything to MAKE the water blue?
Was there a lot of blue in the nearby area for the water to reflect the color (remember, water is colorless)?
Lakes, rivers, oceans, etc. are blue when the SKY is blue...its "color" is controlled by what it is reflecting.

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Aaarrrgghhh! When and where can we pre-order the Egg box set? I must have it!!! >_<

Agreed.
I'm 61, but I'm still a kid at heart with this kind of stuff.
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BDs are always discounted down between the announcement date and the release date.
Amazon automatically adjusts its prices to be as low as anyone out there before the release and credits your preorder.


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No conspiracy theories, please.


Not to be disagreeable, but was there anything to MAKE the water blue?
Was there a lot of blue in the nearby area for the water to reflect the color (remember, water is colorless)?
Lakes, rivers, oceans, etc. are blue when the SKY is blue...its "color" is controlled by what it is reflecting.

I am well aware that water is colour-less.
The water is blue no matter the format, or the way they made it blue.
The Bleach Bypass made the water look metalic
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No we don't but we do have past releases to go on by what they mean by remastering

I'm not slamming them per se but I am being cautious with my money. Fox messed with many titles on my A list, like Patton, T2, Predator.

I said this already, if this were WB or Sony, I would have ZERO hesitation in preordering. Fox' track record on premiere titles like this is not too good. And that's all I or you have to go on. Past history...

Fox didn't do T2. You need to moan about Lionsgate for that one.

T2 does bring up an interesting point, though, which I've mentioned before: while T2 Skynet used a Cameron approved master, he had no say regarding the DNR pass that was performed. Exact same thing could happen to Aliens, but even if it's unmolested it's still walking a very fine line. Why? Well, if no new scan/transfer has been carried out, then the extant JC-approved HD master will be used, which is at least 11 years old. And that will look like crap regardless.
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Fox didn't do T2. You need to moan about Lionsgate for that one.

I stand corrected. You are right on T2, thanks.

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On the Egg version....I wonder if they're planning on the egg peeling back and chestburster springing out the top...that would be a cool surprise when reaching for the discs

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I am well aware that water is colour-less.
The water is blue no matter the format, or the way they made it blue.
The Bleach Bypass made the water look metalic

Oh, OK, I understand now.
I had never noticed this before; I better go take a look.


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On the Egg version....I wonder if they're planning on the egg peeling back and chestburster springing out the top...that would be a cool surprise when reaching for the discs

Who HASN'T had that nightmare at least once after watching these movies????

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Fox didn't do T2. You need to moan about Lionsgate for that one.

T2 does bring up an interesting point, though, which I've mentioned before: while T2 Skynet used a Cameron approved master, he had no say regarding the DNR pass that was performed. Exact same thing could happen to Aliens, but even if it's unmolested it's still walking a very fine line. Why? Well, if no new scan/transfer has been carried out, then the extant JC-approved HD master will be used, which is at least 11 years old. And that will look like crap regardless.

There is no HD master for Aliens, this is the first one struck.
With T2 they had to use such an old transfer that had been put out and bought by many people already.
They had to do something to make it look different, and DNR was that thing
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