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post #571 of 585 Old 08-27-2013, 12:06 PM
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Fox has been really good with recent catalogs though and their press guy is claiming the 2D will be a new 4K transfer. Should be interesting. Huge disappointment if it's just the UHE 2D disc again. lol

To quote Barf from "Spaceballs", "Praying to God."
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One would think that, but it's also possible that Fox will pull a Jurassic Park and release their original, poorer, outdated master on the 2D disc and not bother releasing the restored version in 2D at all.

Same with Nightmare Before Christmas as well, maybe the triple dip for it will be the charm.
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I would imagine they create a new 2D master first - then create 3D.

Well, yes, they'd have to. But the process would go something like this:

1. 2D telecine 2. apply DNR (since, as I mentioned above, this is more or less necessary for 3D conversion) 3. convert to 3D

My fear is that they will use the result of step 2 (a 2D master "cleaned up" for subsequent 3D conversion) instead of the result of step 1 (an untampered-with 2D master). Or they could just take the left-eye image from the final 3D version and use that as the 2D version. So basically there's a few different ways this could go wrong, and with Fox's record I'm not optimistic they'll avoid all of them.
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I would support this if they do it with some grain. Here is hoping they make this right.
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Would anyone know which versions the Swedish 3D BD (which includes a 2D version) contain? Is the 2D version by any chance the old, non DNR:d version? Just received it, and I'm considering sending it back if not. Thank you in advance!
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Would anyone know which versions the Swedish 3D BD (which includes a 2D version) contain? Is the 2D version by any chance the old, non DNR:d version? Just received it, and I'm considering sending it back if not. Thank you in advance!
I don't know for sure, but it is likely that the 2D version is just the old scan (pre-UHE). I think that's what they did with Jurassic Park as well. The 3D version had heavy DNR (grain makes the 3D conversion difficult) and the 2D version was just the old scan. That's the best case scenario. haha
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I don't know for sure, but it is likely that the 2D version is just the old scan (pre-UHE). I think that's what they did with Jurassic Park as well. The 3D version had heavy DNR (grain makes the 3D conversion difficult) and the 2D version was just the old scan. That's the best case scenario. haha
Thank you! I'll probably be able to judge for myself with the help of the comparison pix here.
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I should have read dvdcompares comparison closely; the second disc contained the old transfer. I still have a question though: the first disc had both 2D and 3D versions of the slaughtered transfer, why on earth would they be so kind to include a second disc with the old transfer?
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I should have read dvdcompares comparison closely; the second disc contained the old transfer. I still have a question though: the first disc had both 2D and 3D versions of the slaughtered transfer, why on earth would they be so kind to include a second disc with the old transfer?
Somebody made a mistake I guess.
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The 3d disc has the 2d option playback which is basically the ultimate hunter edition transfer.

So no point in adding another disc with the ultimate hunter edition transfer, it makes sense to add the disc with the old mpeg-2 transfer so that you have all transfers.
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I'm really hoping this gets the proper treatment one day. It's too good of a classic, 80s sci-fi action title and maybe Arnold's best. The original disc is by far the best way to watch the movie, but the compressioning issues rear its ugly head on a big screen - front projection set-up. The scan itself is no kid either.

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All I can say is that when Predator gets a 4K re-master, Dolby Atmos sound mix, a commentary with cast members and another with Ahnald and the Director, and a good making-of documentary, we'll get what we want.
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Dont expect Dolby Atmos to add much, it's a convert.
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Dont expect Dolby Atmos to add much, it's a convert.
There have been a few Atmos re-mixes that sound pretty damn good. It all depends on the skill set and artistic talent of the engineers working on the project.

Listen up, studios! Just say "NO" to DNR and EE!!
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All I can say is that when Predator gets a 4K re-master, Dolby Atmos sound mix, a commentary with cast members and another with Ahnald and the Director, and a good making-of documentary, we'll get what we want.
Too bad it will be *insert color-timing problem here*!

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There have been a few Atmos re-mixes that sound pretty damn good. It all depends on the skill set and artistic talent of the engineers working on the project.
As long as the original mixes are included, they can do as they please.
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