Originally Posted by dougotte
That particular shot does look good at either 1.78 or 1.66. But that's the problem, isn't it? We're cherry-picking shots to find those that look good cropped. Not every shot would work that way.
Originally Posted by HDMe2
Exactly. This is a lot like when people pick out a still-frame capture and talk about how bad it looks as a transfer... when it might just be that one frame.
Picking a single frame and saying it looks better in widescreen is of little real value. Also, someone else pointed out that the "missing info" that we don't see in 4:3 is usually seen a frame or three later as the still-frame is part of a panning shot that shows it all anyway... so that goes out the window too.
All this single-frame = proof stuff has gotten out of hand in various places on the internet if you ask me. We aren't evaluating still photography, so we really shouldn't be looking at single frames out of context.
I want to point out that *I* never said the show looked better in widescreen. Never said it. In fact, it might surprise both of you to know that, all things considered, I think the show is probably best kept in 4:3. I was reacting to Robert Meyer Burnett's Twitter comments that *he* preferred the show in 16:9. I personally wanted to see what a random shot might look like in 1.66 and 1.78. I guess my mistake was to share it with all of you. I thought the results were interesting enough to post.
Also, I didn't "cherry-pick" that frame because I thought it would show off the re-framing process in the best light possible. Though, I understand why you might think that. I chose it because I was going through TrekCore's "Encounter at Farpoint" gallery and saw two sequential captures that between them showed a wider view of the background. That's it. That's all. It's the first one I saw that did that and so I went with it, checked Panavision's aperture specs and opened up Photoshop.
Finally, watch the episode. The pan is minor and occurred only because the camera operator had to slightly re-frame the shot due to the blocking -- Patrick Stewart walks forward to his second mark and comes closer to the camera.
If CBS is dead set on converting this show to 16:9, I think at the very least the two remaining DPs should be consulted. Without a doubt. That means Marvin V. Rush and Jonathan West (not sure if Edward R. Brown is still alive). They would know better than anyone the feasibility of conversion of TNG to 16:9 (or any other possible aspect ratio). Rush was the DP on both "Menage a Troi" in 1990 and "These Are the Voyages" in 2005 and probably oversaw (in some capacity) the reformatting of the TNG footage for use on Enterprise
I think maybe we all need to just take a deep breath and possibly hold our rage back until we see some footage. I definitely agree on that point.