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No other info but it's coming from Dreamworks as a Best Buy exclusive on 1/30.

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Oh, snap. I wonder how this'll compare with the UK release. Ideally, they'd put out something akin to the Anchorman release and include both cuts of the film and the Stillwater CD.
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I'm very happy with the UK disc.
I thought I would miss the theatrical cut or the extras from the Bootleg DVD, but I honestly don't so I think I can pass on this one.
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I'm very happy with the UK disc.
I thought I would miss the theatrical cut or the extras from the Bootleg DVD, but I honestly don't so I think I can pass on this one.

IMO, the UK disc has one of the worst cases of DNR I've encountered on Blu!
As much as I love this film, it's almost unbearable to watch!
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Found this regarding the Bootleg BR:

http://www.discdish.com/index.php/20...g-cut-blu-ray/

"Priced at $29.99, the Blu-ray disc will come packed with these special features:

* commentary by Crowe
* audio introduction by Crowe
* featurette The Making of Almost Famous
* interview with the real Lester Bangs
* Cameron Crowe's Top Albums of 1973
* music video for Fever Dog
* Stillwater's Cleveland Concert
* Small Time Blues
* Stairway
* B-Sides behind-the-scenes footage
* and seven Rolling Stones articles with audio introduction by Crowe: The Allman Brothers from Dec. 6, 1973; Led Zeppelin from March 13, 1975; Neil Young from Aug. 14, 1975; Peter Frampton from Feb. 10, 1977; Fleetwood Mac from March 24, 1977; Van Morrison from May 19, 1977 and Joni Mitchell from July 26, 1979.

All the special features were previously in the Bootleg Cut DVD.

Almost Famous has been released on Blu-ray before, but overseas. This is the first high-definition release for the movie in the U.S."

I guess we'll find out soon enough!
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IMO, the UK disc has one of the worst cases of DNR I've encountered on Blu!
As much as I love this film, it's almost unbearable to watch!

I have to disagree completely. I own the UK release, and I counld't spot any significant DNR appliance, let alone "one of of the worst cases" on blu-ray (for that, you might want to take a look at 'Tremors' ...). The movie might be in need of a new transfer, looks a bit soft and not quite stellar, but DNR is not a problem with this disc IMO.

Here everyone can decide for himself: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...php?p=13603893
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as far as EE goes, if it is on there I can honestly say it didn't bother me at all.
And if it were egregious, I think I would have at least noticed it.

Not saying the image quality can't be improved upon, just that nothing about the presentation of the UK impinged on my immersion in the film. And that last viewing via Bd probably was the most immersed I've been in it. One of the rare titles I watched the very night I received it- rather than waiting for 'just the right time'.

As far as the extras go- I glanced at most of them right before I shipped off my Bootleg DVD set to it's new home. The Stairway To Heaven cut scene was interesting, but I can live without it. The Lester Bangs interveiw can be found on youtube f I ever want to see it again, and most of the rest are watch once for me.
The most interesting extras to me are the actual Crowe Rolling Stone articles. After watching the movie I was very curious to read the 15 yr old Crowes writing style- but I picked up a DVD-rom set of every issue of Rolling Stone for $25 a few yrs back, so I do have access to them after all.

If the transfer is indeed improved and the disc hits a sub $10 price at some point, I may upgrade, otherwise 2011 is already starting to look pretty packed with must haves, so I'll let this one slide for now.
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The UK Blu-ray shows definite signs of missing high-frequency detail. If a new master is struck, I expect the new disc to obliterate the old one from Sony.


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Looks great - hopefully a good price on this similar to when they first got Anchorman.
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I have to disagree completely. I own the UK release, and I counld't spot any significant DNR appliance, let alone "one of of the worst cases" on blu-ray (for that, you might want to take a look at 'Tremors' ...). The movie might be in need of a new transfer, looks a bit soft and not quite stellar, but DNR is not a problem with this disc IMO.

Here everyone can decide for himself: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...php?p=13603893

Considering the UK disc hit in 2007, it's probably just a sign of the times. I'll grab this disc as long as it's $15 or so.
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I thought it looked good back in 08 when I took those shots.. Not so much today.

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I have to disagree completely. I own the UK release, and I counld't spot any significant DNR appliance, let alone "one of of the worst cases" on blu-ray (for that, you might want to take a look at 'Tremors' ...). The movie might be in need of a new transfer, looks a bit soft and not quite stellar, but DNR is not a problem with this disc IMO.

Here everyone can decide for himself: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...php?p=13603893

+1. There is some EE but this one may require remastering.

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It's from Universal... uh oh.

I have the UK version from Sony and yes, a new supervised 6k transfer should be made.

Listen up, studios! Just say "NO" to DNR and EE!!
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It's from Universal... uh oh.

I have the UK version from Sony and yes, a new supervised 6k transfer should be made.

Paramount, not Universal.
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Paramount, not Universal.

I'd bet you it's from a Universal master just like Gladiator was...

Listen up, studios! Just say "NO" to DNR and EE!!
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I'd bet you it's from a Universal master just like Gladiator was...

Uh...that makes no sense. You might as well be claiming Star Wars will be from a Universal master.

Gladiator was a Dreamworks/Universal co-production.
Almost Famous was a Dreamworks/Sony co-production.

Viacom, parent company of Paramount, bought and later sold Dreamworks live action library, but retained distribution rights through 2011.
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Uh...that makes no sense. You might as well be claiming Star Wars will be from a Universal master.

Gladiator was a Dreamworks/Universal co-production.
Almost Famous was a Dreamworks/Sony co-production.

Viacom, parent company of Paramount, bought and later sold Dreamworks live action library, but retained distribution rights through 2011.

Almost Famous had U.S. video distribution rights through Universal just like Gladiator at the time. Unless Crowe supervised a new transfer, I'd assume it's from an older Universal HD master.

The powers that be at Ridley's company made them do a new Gladiator transfer after the stink about the old, crappy Universal one Paramount used. I don't know if Crowe has the same clout.

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Almost Famous had U.S. video distribution rights through Universal just like Gladiator at the time. Unless Crowe supervised a new transfer, I'd assume it's from an older Universal HD master.

The powers that be at Ridley's company made them do a new Gladiator transfer after the stink about the old, crappy Universal one Paramount used. I don't know if Crowe has the same clout.

Don't assume till we have the disc. The UK BD edition from 2007 was not the Universal transfer.

Seeing how Paramount has been producing some pretty poor catalog BDs as of late, I'm not very hopefull it will look good.
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Almost Famous had U.S. video distribution rights through Universal just like Gladiator at the time.

Nope.

Both Gladiator and Almost Famous had US video distribution rights through Dreamworks Home Entertainment. Their headquarters are in Universal City, but nothing is handled by Universal. After the Viacom buyout that was folded into Paramount Home Entertainment.

The Universal link to Gladiator is that they're co-financer and non-US distributor, ie. what Sony is to Almost Famous.

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Don't assume till we have the disc. The UK BD edition from 2007 was not the Universal transfer.

Because there is no Universal transfer.
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it's up now:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Almost+F...4115&st=almost famous

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I love this movie but I dont really think I want another 40 minutes. I think the theatrical release was perfect.

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Who here knows exactly what "Best Buy Exclusive" means?

There seem to be no "extras" or add-ons compared to what has been released in the past (whether DVD or UK BD). No special packaging, CDs, whatever. Is it simply that the only retailer where the new BD can be had is at Best Buy? And will remain so for the life of the product distribution? Any precedent for this?
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Who here knows exactly what "Best Buy Exclusive" means?

There seem to be no "extras" or add-ons compared to what has been released in the past (whether DVD or UK BD). No special packaging, CDs, whatever. Is it simply that the only retailer where the new BD can be had is at Best Buy? And will remain so for the life of the product distribution? Any precedent for this?

There have been many retailer exclusives on BD. They've all been timed exclusives so far.
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There have been many retailer exclusives on BD. They've all been timed exclusives so far.

And could be timed for quite a while -- ANCHORMAN and THE SCORE are still BB exclusives and they were released last summer.
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I watched the Sony/Japanese BD of Almost Famous this evening and I feel picture lacks detail, it's not only that DNR has been used, it has but not in excess as grain is still visible, it looks flat and video-like.
I live in Spain but I don't think it will be difficult to get on ebay or third-party sellers on amazon.
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First review is up: http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Almost...4/#Screenshots.

I'll stick with my UK release (PQ seems to be pretty much the same going by these screen shots).
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First review is up: http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Almost...4/#Screenshots.

I'll stick with my UK release (PQ seems to be pretty much the same going by these screen shots).

Yep, looks like it's from the same master
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I might have argued John Toll was going for that hazy 70s movie look (that's what I remember it looking like theatrically) but if it's got that horrible American Beauty EE it's a no sale.
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I just took a closer look into my UK disc, and PQ wise I cannot spot any major differences. Both discs seem to be based on the same master. I also noticed that the Paramount disc doesn't come with the same aspect ratio.

Paramount US left (taken from blu-ray.com) / Sony UK right






After all, no need to upgrade, if you already own the Sony release IMO.
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