Originally Posted by ss9001
Obviously, you won't be buying this one
Correct sir! I think I've built a good case and explained myself well. Curious though, what are your thoughts on "Enemy Mine"?
That said, I don't understand how you could say Soylent was "only" relevant to the 60's. Ever hear of the SF novel by John Brunner, "The Sheep Look Up"?
The theming of overpopulation and food shortage isn't very relevant (or interesting) today. Global Warming also bores the piss out of me because I've heard it all too much (I am not a republican, either).
Part of my previous response was aiming at this point of "The Sheep Look Up", as the novel was describing a dystopian and "futuristic" environment in the US. My previous point, is that I really don't like how the environment was shown in "Soylent Green" or in "Logan's Run." It certainly did not immerse me, or make me feel that I was there. For awesome, repressive, and immersive dystopian environments, I find "Blade Runner", "Escape From New York", "A Clockwork Orange", and "THX-1138" much more encumbering, mind settling, and less prone to aging of their associated time periods. "Westworld" on the other hand, can be a bit corny at times, but it still pulls me in, especially during the western period, and allows my mind to swim wondering about the theming that it offers. The premise of Westworld still fascinates me, but I guess that's just the nerd in me.
I find Soylent surprisingly relevant especially today with scientific evidence piling up about global climate change, massive arctic ice melting and possibility of stopping the cold/warm water elevator which drives the ocean currents & marine ecosystems. If the current elevator stops, the world as we know it is in a heap of trouble.
Until we reach more valid scientific conclusions, I'll have to still think otherwise. That is not to say that I fault you for finding it interesting, along with how the film portrays this. I'm just saying that for me: I don't find it interesting or engaging, even from the getco, and I don't think it makes more any "less" of a sci-fi fan from some implications I've seen.
Besides over-population, Soylent depicts an over-heated "hot" environment, where food supplies & ecosystems have failed.
Precisely — a sci-fi film about food. Give me replicants or eye devices that forces human nature to behave a certain way instead!
I have to ask, are 2001 Space Odyssey & Planet of the Apes too 60's for you, too?
I still need to watch Planet of the Apes (I know I know, don't hate me for it). 2001 is not very
60s either — some of its optical effects and set designs are more realistic and amazing than most movies even shot today. Certainly, the clothing and hair styles are a bit old, but Kurbick intentionally showed such things to a bare minimum and kept things as minimalistic as possible, as I think 2001 is a film that doesn't really age. We call those, you know, "masterpeices."
I enjoy the chat!