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Remastered? Really? There is still dirt and scratches visible just like the broadcast HD version. Inconsistent PQ with fine grain visible in some area then grain reduced in some. Overall the transfer at least for me is "too edgy".

There are some moments where close ups looks waxy. I dont know. . . its just so dissappointing. This one should have been sent to anyone except the Universal "Restoration Team".
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DVD Collector's Edition 1998

H.264 1080i broadcast: 6.85 GB

Bitrate: 8.81 mbps


Code:
Sequence Frame 312969(0-X) / Time 1:44:12 :
Info: End of H.264 sequence

Sequence Summary:

File Size Processed: 6.85 GB, Play Time: 01h:44m:19s
50.00 FPS (Average), 8.81 Mbps (Average).
AC3 Audio: 2/0 Channels (L, R) (Dolby Surround), 48.0 kHz, 384 kbps.
Dialog Normalization: -27.0 dB
0 of 195619 audio frames found with errors.
0.000000 seconds of audio timestamp gaps.

End of Log

Blu-ray UK file size: 31.10 GB

Bitrate: 32.24 mbps VC-1


Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00800.MPLS                                                      VC-1    1:48:51 33,463,474,176  48,683,300,779  40.99   32.24   DTS-HD Master 5.1 3692Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) DTS-HD Master 2.0 665Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     PSYCHO UK
Disc Size:      48,683,300,779 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        Yes
BDInfo:         0.5.4

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00800.MPLS
Length:                 1:48:51 (h:m:s)
Size:                   33,463,474,176 bytes
Total Bitrate:          40.99 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
VC-1 Video              32244 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Advanced Profile 3

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         3692 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 3692 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio             Japanese        192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio             French          192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio             Italian         192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio             German          192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio             Spanish         192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio             English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         665 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 665 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 384 kbps / 16-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         35.661 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Japanese        19.008 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          22.915 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Italian         31.618 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           German          35.728 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         31.711 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Dutch           31.235 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Danish          32.123 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Norwegian       30.877 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Finnish         29.920 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Greek           33.636 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Portuguese      31.345 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Chinese         25.988 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Chinese         24.723 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Korean          21.615 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Swedish         29.201 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Japanese        0.080 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           French          0.192 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Italian         0.172 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           German          0.156 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         0.150 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           English         67.689 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Japanese        38.369 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          60.757 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Italian         64.409 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           German          71.005 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         65.911 kbps                     

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00010.M2TS      0:00:00.000     1:48:51.066     33,463,474,176  40,990          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:02:20.140     10,741 kbps     49,691 kbps     00:00:26.401    34,880 kbps     00:00:29.404    30,849 kbps     00:00:24.733    56,435 bytes    575,804 bytes   00:02:19.889    
2               0:02:20.140     0:04:39.529     33,508 kbps     49,177 kbps     00:06:58.626    39,303 kbps     00:03:18.489    37,142 kbps     00:03:13.526    174,697 bytes   558,598 bytes   00:06:59.252    
3               0:06:59.669     0:04:06.579     32,402 kbps     42,639 kbps     00:09:08.130    38,068 kbps     00:07:43.963    37,304 kbps     00:07:40.793    168,930 bytes   464,649 bytes   00:08:14.285    
4               0:11:06.248     0:02:53.756     32,811 kbps     41,060 kbps     00:11:29.146    36,221 kbps     00:11:25.226    35,126 kbps     00:13:09.413    171,063 bytes   474,147 bytes   00:12:37.590    
5               0:14:00.005     0:03:53.608     32,691 kbps     44,354 kbps     00:14:29.326    37,459 kbps     00:14:25.322    35,909 kbps     00:14:20.568    170,467 bytes   475,401 bytes   00:16:18.644    
6               0:17:53.614     0:08:38.809     31,981 kbps     45,714 kbps     00:26:22.497    36,979 kbps     00:17:57.493    35,533 kbps     00:17:57.034    166,735 bytes   465,178 bytes   00:23:41.378    
7               0:26:32.424     0:08:17.955     32,306 kbps     43,674 kbps     00:26:38.305    37,616 kbps     00:30:13.561    35,265 kbps     00:30:13.561    168,430 bytes   583,971 bytes   00:33:17.745    
8               0:34:50.379     0:03:44.265     34,192 kbps     43,162 kbps     00:35:52.024    38,847 kbps     00:38:01.445    37,456 kbps     00:37:32.541    178,260 bytes   465,305 bytes   00:37:08.059    
9               0:38:34.645     0:08:03.024     32,724 kbps     47,093 kbps     00:41:27.818    37,264 kbps     00:46:29.828    35,943 kbps     00:40:11.534    170,606 bytes   484,032 bytes   00:40:08.656    
10              0:46:37.669     0:02:53.590     33,431 kbps     48,742 kbps     00:48:01.003    39,251 kbps     00:47:56.999    36,919 kbps     00:47:52.327    174,294 bytes   424,519 bytes   00:48:01.044    
11              0:49:31.259     0:09:09.632     32,886 kbps     44,255 kbps     00:49:40.268    39,346 kbps     00:58:25.668    37,836 kbps     00:50:59.890    171,453 bytes   519,572 bytes   00:58:26.044    
12              0:58:40.892     0:01:33.927     31,360 kbps     40,733 kbps     00:58:40.934    37,490 kbps     00:59:53.089    36,373 kbps     00:58:40.934    163,495 bytes   493,632 bytes   00:59:15.927    
13              1:00:14.819     0:03:45.308     32,751 kbps     43,240 kbps     01:00:34.130    36,213 kbps     01:01:58.256    35,436 kbps     01:03:50.117    170,747 bytes   484,501 bytes   01:01:03.451    
14              1:04:00.127     0:02:30.233     30,994 kbps     42,648 kbps     01:05:36.766    38,583 kbps     01:05:34.513    37,045 kbps     01:05:29.550    161,588 bytes   455,182 bytes   01:04:01.128    
15              1:06:30.361     0:05:54.270     32,076 kbps     43,229 kbps     01:06:37.201    38,022 kbps     01:06:34.699    37,822 kbps     01:06:36.784    167,232 bytes   462,576 bytes   01:11:57.271    
16              1:12:24.631     0:04:06.371     31,660 kbps     39,883 kbps     01:14:47.649    36,638 kbps     01:14:33.051    35,229 kbps     01:14:33.969    165,061 bytes   529,636 bytes   01:14:09.736    
17              1:16:31.003     0:01:07.901     34,044 kbps     43,213 kbps     01:16:37.759    37,627 kbps     01:16:36.550    37,200 kbps     01:16:31.003    177,818 bytes   513,593 bytes   01:17:36.109    
18              1:17:38.904     0:02:37.365     32,139 kbps     42,188 kbps     01:20:14.059    38,822 kbps     01:19:06.158    37,587 kbps     01:19:01.486    167,827 bytes   536,151 bytes   01:20:16.186    
19              1:20:16.269     0:03:18.114     33,492 kbps     43,747 kbps     01:20:19.064    38,742 kbps     01:20:18.480    35,998 kbps     01:20:16.269    174,611 bytes   480,544 bytes   01:20:53.306    
20              1:23:34.384     0:03:17.655     32,013 kbps     38,542 kbps     01:24:29.355    36,455 kbps     01:26:03.658    35,306 kbps     01:25:59.237    166,904 bytes   475,898 bytes   01:24:29.397    
21              1:26:52.040     0:05:13.271     33,656 kbps     41,593 kbps     01:31:14.135    37,722 kbps     01:31:12.049    36,534 kbps     01:27:54.060    175,466 bytes   570,803 bytes   01:27:58.106    
22              1:32:05.311     0:03:02.640     32,259 kbps     42,296 kbps     01:35:06.951    37,698 kbps     01:32:09.106    37,244 kbps     01:32:09.607    168,185 bytes   539,482 bytes   01:35:07.576    
23              1:35:07.952     0:05:41.632     33,223 kbps     44,343 kbps     01:40:48.584    37,863 kbps     01:36:12.141    37,195 kbps     01:36:28.199    173,210 bytes   486,709 bytes   01:38:52.843    
24              1:40:49.585     0:01:05.815     34,419 kbps     42,333 kbps     01:41:00.012    37,541 kbps     01:40:52.796    37,227 kbps     01:40:53.380    179,445 bytes   483,427 bytes   01:40:56.592    
25              1:41:55.400     0:05:20.194     33,740 kbps     47,967 kbps     01:44:26.969    38,293 kbps     01:46:11.948    37,606 kbps     01:46:08.779    175,903 bytes   479,399 bytes   01:44:27.010    
26              1:47:15.595     0:01:35.470     31,703 kbps     43,463 kbps     01:48:44.851    36,629 kbps     01:48:41.681    35,749 kbps     01:48:36.343    167,183 bytes   435,159 bytes   01:47:23.603    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00010.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0xEA            VC-1                                    6530.941                32,245                  26,323,635,459  143,157,795     
00010.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           6530.941                3,692                   3,013,892,052   17,395,416      
00010.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x81            AC3             jpn (Japanese)          6530.941                192                     156,745,728     1,020,480       
00010.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x81            AC3             fra (French)            6530.941                192                     156,745,728     1,020,480       
00010.M2TS      4355 (0x1103)   0x81            AC3             ita (Italian)           6530.941                192                     156,745,728     1,020,480       
00010.M2TS      4356 (0x1104)   0x81            AC3             deu (German)            6530.941                192                     156,745,728     1,020,480       
00010.M2TS      4357 (0x1105)   0x81            AC3             spa (Spanish)           6530.941                192                     156,745,728     1,020,480       
00010.M2TS      4358 (0x1106)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           6530.941                192                     156,745,728     1,020,480       
00010.M2TS      4359 (0x1107)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           6530.941                665                     542,811,348     3,440,910       
00010.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           6530.941                36                      29,113,151      165,891         
00010.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             jpn (Japanese)          6530.941                19                      15,518,208      89,904          
00010.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            6530.941                23                      18,707,170      108,298         
00010.M2TS      4611 (0x1203)   0x90            PGS             ita (Italian)           6530.941                32                      25,812,608      147,361         
00010.M2TS      4612 (0x1204)   0x90            PGS             deu (German)            6530.941                36                      29,167,795      165,719         
00010.M2TS      4613 (0x1205)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           6530.941                32                      25,888,274      147,830         
00010.M2TS      4614 (0x1206)   0x90            PGS             nld (Dutch)             6530.941                31                      25,499,735      145,697         
00010.M2TS      4615 (0x1207)   0x90            PGS             dan (Danish)            6530.941                32                      26,224,649      149,660         
00010.M2TS      4616 (0x1208)   0x90            PGS             nor (Norwegian)         6530.941                31                      25,207,733      144,113         
00010.M2TS      4617 (0x1209)   0x90            PGS             fin (Finnish)           6530.941                30                      24,426,141      139,733         
00010.M2TS      4618 (0x120A)   0x90            PGS             ell (Greek)             6530.941                34                      27,460,252      156,452         
00010.M2TS      4619 (0x120B)   0x90            PGS             por (Portuguese)        6530.941                31                      25,589,700      146,236         
00010.M2TS      4620 (0x120C)   0x90            PGS             zho (Chinese)           6530.941                26                      21,216,494      122,384         
00010.M2TS      4621 (0x120D)   0x90            PGS             zho (Chinese)           6530.941                25                      20,183,438      116,769         
00010.M2TS      4622 (0x120E)   0x90            PGS             kor (Korean)            6530.941                22                      17,645,919      102,997         
00010.M2TS      4623 (0x120F)   0x90            PGS             swe (Swedish)           6530.941                29                      23,839,320      136,651         
00010.M2TS      4624 (0x1210)   0x90            PGS             jpn (Japanese)          6530.941                0                       64,942          386             
00010.M2TS      4625 (0x1211)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            6530.941                0                       156,403         918             
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00010.M2TS      4628 (0x1214)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           6530.941                0                       122,229         714             
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00010.M2TS      4630 (0x1216)   0x90            PGS             jpn (Japanese)          6530.941                38                      31,323,708      178,166         
00010.M2TS      4631 (0x1217)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            6530.941                61                      49,600,610      280,083         
00010.M2TS      4632 (0x1218)   0x90            PGS             ita (Italian)           6530.941                64                      52,582,068      296,381         
00010.M2TS      4633 (0x1219)   0x90            PGS             deu (German)            6530.941                71                      57,967,056      325,645         
00010.M2TS      4634 (0x121A)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           6530.941                66                      53,808,344      303,088
QUICK SUMMARY:

Disc Title: PSYCHO Blu-ray UK
Disc Size: 48,683,300,779 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
Playlist: 00800.MPLS
Size: 33,463,474,176 bytes
Length: 1:48:51
Total Bitrate: 40.99 Mbps
Video: VC-1 Video / 32244 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Advanced Profile 3
Audio: English / DTS-HD Master Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 3692 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Audio: Japanese / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB
Audio: French / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB
Audio: Italian / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB
Audio: German / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB
Audio: Spanish / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB
Audio: English / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB
Audio: English / DTS-HD Master Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 665 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 384 kbps / 16-bit)
Subtitle: English / 35.661 kbps
Subtitle: Japanese / 19.008 kbps
Subtitle: French / 22.915 kbps
Subtitle: Italian / 31.618 kbps
Subtitle: German / 35.728 kbps
Subtitle: Spanish / 31.711 kbps
Subtitle: Dutch / 31.235 kbps
Subtitle: Danish / 32.123 kbps
Subtitle: Norwegian / 30.877 kbps
Subtitle: Finnish / 29.920 kbps
Subtitle: Greek / 33.636 kbps
Subtitle: Portuguese / 31.345 kbps
Subtitle: Chinese / 25.988 kbps
Subtitle: Chinese / 24.723 kbps
Subtitle: Korean / 21.615 kbps
Subtitle: Swedish / 29.201 kbps
Subtitle: Japanese / 0.080 kbps
Subtitle: French / 0.192 kbps
Subtitle: Italian / 0.172 kbps
Subtitle: German / 0.156 kbps
Subtitle: Spanish / 0.150 kbps
Subtitle: English / 67.689 kbps
Subtitle: Japanese / 38.369 kbps
Subtitle: French / 60.757 kbps
Subtitle: Italian / 64.409 kbps
Subtitle: German / 71.005 kbps
Subtitle: Spanish / 65.911 kbps




Blu-ray US file size: 29.20 GB

Bitrate: 31.61 mbps VC-1


Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00800.MPLS                                                      VC-1    1:48:58 31,376,941,056  40,880,530,649  38.39   31.61   DTS-HD Master 5.1 3721Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) DTS 2.0 384Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     PSYCHO_50TH
Disc Size:      40,880,530,649 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        Yes
BDInfo:         0.5.4

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00800.MPLS
Length:                 1:48:58 (h:m:s)
Size:                   31,376,941,056 bytes
Total Bitrate:          38.39 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
VC-1 Video              31606 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Advanced Profile 3

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         3721 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 3721 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS Audio                       English         384 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 384 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio                       French          384 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 384 kbps / 24-bit
Dolby Digital Audio             English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         36.349 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         31.298 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          33.242 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          0.178 kbps                      

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00010.M2TS      0:00:00.000     1:48:58.532     31,376,941,056  38,390          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:02:20.014     10,014 kbps     46,379 kbps     00:00:26.109    32,765 kbps     00:00:29.320    29,692 kbps     00:00:24.941    52,587 bytes    334,779 bytes   00:00:26.735    
2               0:02:20.014     0:04:39.362     32,636 kbps     39,766 kbps     00:03:03.308    36,953 kbps     00:03:12.400    35,341 kbps     00:02:55.842    170,149 bytes   362,282 bytes   00:03:33.838    
3               0:06:59.377     0:04:06.579     33,124 kbps     38,920 kbps     00:09:56.804    36,322 kbps     00:10:21.162    35,326 kbps     00:07:42.712    172,693 bytes   412,999 bytes   00:07:21.816    
4               0:11:05.956     0:02:54.007     32,152 kbps     45,554 kbps     00:12:20.698    36,440 kbps     00:12:17.153    35,422 kbps     00:11:44.286    167,626 bytes   383,527 bytes   00:13:02.573    
5               0:13:59.964     0:03:53.566     32,573 kbps     43,730 kbps     00:15:54.745    37,663 kbps     00:15:51.492    36,174 kbps     00:15:25.925    169,819 bytes   379,481 bytes   00:15:33.349    
6               0:17:53.530     0:08:38.851     32,239 kbps     46,818 kbps     00:26:22.455    38,063 kbps     00:19:56.904    35,950 kbps     00:19:51.899    168,081 bytes   415,134 bytes   00:25:55.387    
7               0:26:32.382     0:08:17.955     32,336 kbps     47,093 kbps     00:26:38.263    37,114 kbps     00:30:10.683    36,250 kbps     00:30:10.350    168,583 bytes   395,160 bytes   00:28:27.205    
8               0:34:50.338     0:03:44.265     32,626 kbps     39,748 kbps     00:35:04.852    36,026 kbps     00:35:04.102    35,528 kbps     00:35:18.991    170,096 bytes   460,537 bytes   00:37:26.243    
9               0:38:34.603     0:08:03.024     32,988 kbps     45,331 kbps     00:45:10.332    38,265 kbps     00:44:07.061    36,793 kbps     00:45:10.332    171,983 bytes   437,454 bytes   00:43:54.048    
10              0:46:37.628     0:02:53.590     33,175 kbps     47,607 kbps     00:47:07.533    37,962 kbps     00:47:03.529    35,656 kbps     00:48:50.010    172,957 bytes   386,428 bytes   00:49:13.200    
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STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00010.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0xEA            VC-1                                    6538.407                31,607                  25,832,172,462  140,486,926     
00010.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           6538.407                3,721                   3,041,384,464   17,544,735      
00010.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x82            DTS             eng (English)           6538.407                384                     313,849,856     1,838,964       
00010.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x82            DTS             fra (French)            6538.407                384                     313,849,856     1,838,964       
00010.M2TS      4355 (0x1103)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           6538.407                192                     156,925,440     1,021,650       
00010.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           6538.407                36                      29,708,353      169,949         
00010.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           6538.407                31                      25,580,025      145,832         
00010.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            6538.407                33                      27,169,362      154,631         
00010.M2TS      4611 (0x1203)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            6538.407                0                       145,888         851
QUICK SUMMARY:

Disc Title: PSYCHO_50TH
Disc Size: 40,880,530,649 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
Playlist: 00800.MPLS
Size: 31,376,941,056 bytes
Length: 1:48:58
Total Bitrate: 38.39 Mbps
Video: VC-1 Video / 31606 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Advanced Profile 3
Audio: English / DTS-HD Master Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 3721 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Audio: English / DTS Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 384 kbps / 24-bit
Audio: French / DTS Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 384 kbps / 24-bit
Audio: English / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB
Subtitle: English / 36.349 kbps
Subtitle: Spanish / 31.298 kbps
Subtitle: French / 33.242 kbps
Subtitle: French / 0.178 kbps


FitzRoy's Avatar FitzRoy 08:15 PM 01-02-2011
That actually looks pretty good to me. Why do you want them to run a scratch filter? We should accept slight damage to the source. You've seen what those scratch filters do to the image as a whole, as evidenced by the Gladiator debacle.

I do agree that some mild DNR may have been used. The grain structure is there, it's just kind of clumpier than I would expect for a film this old. Should be sharper and more pronounced than what it is.
win200's Avatar win200 09:52 PM 01-02-2011
This looks like a pretty solid transfer to my eyes.
Jason Steg's Avatar Jason Steg 10:28 PM 01-02-2011
reminds me of Back to the Future. oh well, it is what it is.
Gekkou's Avatar Gekkou 10:55 PM 01-02-2011
It's curious that the US and UK versions have different encodes, considering that both come from Universal. I mean they could have just ported over the UK version and everything would've been peaches and gravy. Not that the US version looks appreciably different, it's just that I don't know why they'd go through the trouble.

In any case I'm glad I got the UK Steelbook for the lossless 2.0 track. I'm sure the image could have been better in some way but this is certainly a massive and enjoyable upgrade over what was previously available. I don't feel any remorse for buying it.
kdssrugby's Avatar kdssrugby 11:00 PM 01-02-2011
I agree with Xylon for the most part. No one is arguing that it looks horrible, just that it's a missed opportunity. I remember being disappointed seeing the UK version (wanted it early) because of the processing (more so the filtering than the sharpening that crops up). However, since I don't own the dvd and it's nowhere near as bad as some of Universal's other catalog films (Elizabeth or Flash Gordon) I'm quite happy with my purchase.
mhafner's Avatar mhafner 03:09 AM 01-03-2011
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Originally Posted by FitzRoy View Post

That actually looks pretty good to me. Why do you want them to run a scratch filter? We should accept slight damage to the source. You've seen what those scratch filters do to the image as a whole, as evidenced by the Gladiator debacle..

Proper restoration does not use an automatic global scratch filter for cases as seen on these stills. You do manual clean up with specialised tools. Zero artifacts visible in real time. But it's time consuming and not cheap.
Zacabeb's Avatar Zacabeb 07:19 AM 01-03-2011
To me it looks a bit DNR:ed, edge enhanced, and regrained. Not to traditional Universal excess, but still a bit suspicious.
dad1153's Avatar dad1153 08:09 AM 01-03-2011
Hitchcock always intended "Psycho" to look and sound like the 50's low-budget B&W 'B' movies that played at drive-ins (according to the film's well-chronicled production history). Having seen this BD (US version) three times over the past couple of weeks I'm satisfied it's as good as it's going to look/sound for a long time given the conditions it was shot in. Would I like a frame-by-frame remastered transfer that's DNR free? Sure, and I'd also like Warner to re-release "Speed Racer" with a lossless 7.1 soundtrack. Neither is going to happen because there's no money to be made on catalogue titles whose sales aren't going to come close to pay back the expenses involved. Besides, "Psycho" is freaky enough as it is that any more clarity in the PQ will send me into the 'look away' crowd when we get to the final scenes (EEEEEKKK! ).
iDarren's Avatar iDarren 08:17 AM 01-03-2011
Which encode do you all think looks better?
Art Sonneborn's Avatar Art Sonneborn 08:48 AM 01-03-2011
Looks like the US version is the better one to me. I have it but have yet to look at it.

Art
surap's Avatar surap 11:17 AM 01-03-2011
It looks like the US-version has slightly better resolved grain. But I'm not shure.
Toknowshita's Avatar Toknowshita 02:47 PM 01-03-2011
looks better than it has on anyother format in the history of home video and 'it's another missed opportunity'

looks pretty good to my eyes.
Turrican4D's Avatar Turrican4D 02:55 PM 01-03-2011
"Better than before" is not good enough for Blu-ray!
grodd's Avatar grodd 03:05 PM 01-03-2011
There are some shots with DNR, but most shots seem to look amazing.

But from what I have watched so far I'd give this one a strong B/B+.
That first shot really shows how awesome the BR can look. Not a bad transfer at all.

It's like getting a great steak with a small hair sticking out the side. I can pick it off.
Dex Robinson's Avatar Dex Robinson 04:04 PM 01-03-2011
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Originally Posted by grodd View Post

But from what I have watched so far I'd give this one a strong B/B+.
That first shot really shows how awesome the BR can look. Not a bad transfer at all.


I agree with you.

While there is no problem with pointing out the shortcomings of a transfer, we tend to judge these things against often unrealistic expectations.

I'm a buyer of almost exclusively catalogue titles. I don't own Avatar, Inception, Iron Man or just about any other movie made in the last decade. I do own PSYCHO.

A lot of buyers "dabble" in catalogue titles. They will buy a lot of modern films and pick up the occasional older film. This affords them the opportunity to "cherry pick" the best looking old films like Sound Of Music, White Christmas or Wizard of Oz. As such, they tend to be unconcerned with the ultimate volume of available catalogue titles.

For me. catalogue titles are the bread-and-butter of my Blu-ray collection. That means that I have to strike a reasonable balance of price, quality and availability. The truth is that there are probably less than half a dozen truly great looking catalogue titles released in a year. Well, I like old movies and I can't limit myself to such a small number of movies per year. I can't wait around for most old catalogue titles to be restored.

PSYCHO looks very good. It's a dramatic improvement over the DVD. It's way better than the HD broadcast. It looks just fine and it's a good value for about $19.00. Yes, I do see things in the transfer that I don't like...things I would have fixed like some obvious EE. Do I want to wait a couple of years and hope that a better version comes out in a $29.00 digibook? Not really. Again, I'm not a catalogue "dabbler". I love my catalogue films and I'm willing to pay top dollar for the great ones. But I'm also willing to spend reasonable money to see a reasonalbe number of old titles with reasonable transfers (that a lot of reason ! ). Perfection is a fine goal but it shouldn't be a standard...not if you want to buy more than 5 movies a year.
Jarod M's Avatar Jarod M 04:54 PM 01-03-2011
Universal's unfortunate business practice regarding its catalog is ongoing, as this interview with David Fincher shows. I wouldn't mind if Universal stopped releasing catalog entirely until they make changes in the way they do things.
Fanboyz's Avatar Fanboyz 05:06 PM 01-03-2011
All things being equal the UK one is best.
Deviation's Avatar Deviation 08:52 PM 01-03-2011
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Originally Posted by Fanboyz View Post

All things being equal the UK one is best.

Any particular reason you feel that way? I'm having a hard time seeing real differences between the two versions.
rezpekt's Avatar rezpekt 03:19 AM 01-04-2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deviation View Post

Any particular reason you feel that way? I'm having a hard time seeing real differences between the two versions.

UK release has the original mono track in DTS-HD MA and additional special feature (Lamb To The Slaughter). And there is also a steelbook release which has a nice booklet.
dougotte's Avatar dougotte 07:04 AM 01-04-2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by dad1153 View Post

Hitchcock always intended "Psycho" to look and sound like the 50's low-budget B&W 'B' movies that played at drive-ins (according to the film's well-chronicled production history). Having seen this BD (US version) three times over the past couple of weeks I'm satisfied it's as good as it's going to look/sound for a long time given the conditions it was shot in. Would I like a frame-by-frame remastered transfer that's DNR free? Sure, and I'd also like Warner to re-release "Speed Racer" with a lossless 7.1 soundtrack. Neither is going to happen because there's no money to be made on catalogue titles whose sales aren't going to come close to pay back the expenses involved. Besides, "Psycho" is freaky enough as it is that any more clarity in the PQ will send me into the 'look away' crowd when we get to the final scenes (EEEEEKKK! ).

Your reasoning is all over the map. Can you clarify? First, you state that it's due to the way Hitchcock intended Psycho to look, then you state that you'd prefer a restoration, and then you wish they had not used DNR at all. Finally, you state that you couldn't bear to look at the scary parts if it looked any better on BD.

Based upon my viewing on a 42" 768p plasma, I thought the UK BD looked fantastic. I'm sure if I had a bigger and better display, I'd see some artifacts. Also, I know others pointed out missing sounds in the new 5.1 mix. I thought it sounded very good. I was amazed at what they could do using a mono track. YMMV...

Doug
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