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post #271 of 5590 Old 03-17-2011, 06:23 AM
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I just emailed WB asking for clarification. Hopefully I will receive a response soon.
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I don't have a problem with the 9 DVDs being included. It appears to be a repackage of the special features discs of the original EE DVDs and the re-releases that came the following year. I don't have my original EE DVDs anymore so, I have no problem with getting that stuff again as it is still some of the best extras I have ever seen. I never bought the re-release with the new making of doc so that will be new and fun to watch for me.

Price seems fine plus, no one here will actually end up paying $120 and you guys complaining know that. It is already only $84 on Amazon which is more then reasonable for 6 BDs (comes to $14 per BD). The MSRP is only $20 per BD and that is fine with me as well, add in the 9 DVDs and the price is only $8 per disc at the $120 price.

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While the price, the apparent lack of 6.1 audio and nine dvds's I don't want or need aren't deal breakers, the same master used on the TE's is. I won't pay the premium price unless the image is remastered. Otherwise I'll be looking at buying LOTR for a third time later on down the road.

I very much want to have LOTR on BD, if only WB didn't make it so difficult. I guess from their point of view they'll get my money eventually. After they've offered editions that are repackaged, then remastered , then with 5.1/then 6.1/then 7.1 audio. One day we'll get two disc's per film of the EE cuts with a proper mastering and at least 6.1 discrete audio.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed the 5.1 audio for this set is a misprint and they at least remastered TFOTR.
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I will be very disappointed if it is only 5.1 and crammed on to one disk.

These versions were truly a step above the theatrical as far as overall product on dvd. (I am not getting into which version is better)

This is starting to look like the theatrical version with extra scenes added in.

I really hope that is not the case, and the info out there is incorrect.
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I will be very disappointed if it is only 5.1 and crammed on to one disk.

These versions were truly a step above the theatrical as far as overall product on dvd. (I am not getting into which version is better)

This is starting to look like the theatrical version with extra scenes added in.

I really hope that is not the case, and the info out there is incorrect.

they're not, it's 2 discs.
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The collection reportedly will also consist of 15 discs (6 Blu-rays, 9 DVDs) with 1080p video, DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 soundtracks, and all of the supplements found on previous editions (most of which will be found on the included DVDs).

B_scott, the above states that most of the supplements will be on the included dvds.

Which tells me that some will be on bluray disks, which is speculated is the Costa documentaries. That would take the filrms down to a disk a piece.
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B_scott, the above states that most of the supplements will be on the included dvds.

Which tells me that some will be on bluray disks, which is speculated is the Costa documentaries. That would take the filrms down to a disk a piece.

Nope, the films will each be spread over two bd's. Each movie will have three dvd's of docs: the first two discs will be the appendices from the EE dvd's, the third will be the Costa Botes doc from the "limited edition" dvd's.

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I very much want to have LOTR on BD, if only WB didn't make it so difficult.

Tell me about it.

I would've (eventually) picked up the TE bd if it didn't have absolutely horrendous watercolor DNR that actually made it look worse than a ******* hd broadcast! Now they're going to give us the extendeds spread over two discs with what will surely be stellar PQ .... and those of us who prefer the theatrical cuts will still have to wait.

Honestly, it doesn't bother me as long as we eventually get a proper remaster of the TE. There's the part of my brain saying "oh, just pick up the TE and live with the DNR." Yeah, but y'know what? I really shouldn't have to settle for sub-par picture quality. Not when a broadcast looks better. Not when they have 50 whole gigs to work with and only use 40 of them. Not when this is THE LORD OF THE RINGS we're talking about.

This upcoming release will surely please fans of the extendeds, and it's nice that Warner threw in the Costa Botes doc (the only extra I'm yet to see).

... But this LOTR fan still ain't sold. I'm waiting until I can get the ultimate set, with a transfer that does the TE justice this time ..... and no seamless branching! You hear that, Warner? I shouldn't have to get up and change the disc if I just want to watch the shorter version.
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I'm thinking this set is not a new remaster, just a port from the DVD's, like the theatrical release on Blu Ray. Now I have the theatrical Blu, and aside from the first movie, the set is not terrible, just disappointing knowing what the set could have been. I really don't think the Blu Ray sets will receive the same attention that the DVD's eventually got, which is sad. I will probalby wait for the extended Blu's to be released individually for $15 per movie without extras ( you know that's how it will be for Walmart ), and then buy. I still have both the theatrical and extended DVD's, so I have all these extras, and I don't envision ( even as good as they are ), watching them again, way too much time!
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what do you mean just a port from the DVDs?
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An existing, off-the-shelf hd master of the EE, just as the previous bd was an off-the-shelf hd master of the TE.
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The theatrical Blu-Ray's looked fine. Excited to see the EE's on BD.
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An existing, off-the-shelf hd master of the EE, just as the previous bd was an off-the-shelf hd master of the TE.

so we think that the original scans that the DVDs were downconverted from were majorly flawed?
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No, it's not that we think they're flawed, simply outdated (2002-2004 was a while ago in terms of hd mastering technology). That's not necessarily a problem just so long as they don't make the same asinine decisions they did with the theatrical bd. It's already been more or less confirmed Warner is spreading this over two discs. As long as there's zero DNR applied, the PQ will be amazing.
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i may have missed something, but is it confirmed that the second set of blu-rays are NOT just the theatricals? WB are notoriously averse to seamless branching after all...
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Not much, and certainly nothing important to most of us, has been confirmed.


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i may have missed something, but is it confirmed that the second set of blu-rays are NOT just the theatricals? WB are notoriously averse to seamless branching after all...

why would they be? and you don't need any branching if it's the full EE.
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The theatrical Blu-Ray's looked fine. Excited to see the EE's on BD.

I agree. All I had to do was take my contacts out and bong a half-gallon of Jack Daniels and I thought the image quality was just great!
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I agree. All I had to do was take my contacts out and bong a half-gallon of Jack Daniels and I thought the image quality was just great!

Thats rough.......I'm still laughing, very funny.
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5.1, 6.1 or 7.1, I really dont care. one of these is fine. as long as they dont screw with the PQ!
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I would be astounded if someone said he won't buy this set based solely on the lack of more than 5.1 channels.
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You guys will be kicking yourselves when this gets re-released with "The Hobbit" in an Ultimate Box set completely remastered. This set is just using the same outdated masters, so don't expect any improvements.
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Why is it ok not to buy subpar pq titles but not subpar audio? The DVD was my goto audio disc at one time.... great 6 channel sound! This is very disappointing if true.
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You guys will be kicking yourselves when this gets re-released with "The Hobbit" in an Ultimate Box set completely remastered. This set is just using the same outdated masters, so don't expect any improvements.

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Why is it ok not to buy subpar pq titles but not subpar audio? The DVD was my goto audio disc at one time.... great 6 channel sound! This is very disappointing if true.

5.1 vs. 6.1 or 7.1 is a quantity issue, not a quality issue.
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You guys will be kicking yourselves when this gets re-released with "The Hobbit" in an Ultimate Box set completely remastered. This set is just using the same outdated masters, so don't expect any improvements.

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5.1 vs. 6.1 or 7.1 is a quantity issue, not a quality issue.

Cramming channels together specifically made for 6.1 is a quality issue to me. You would be complaining if they crammed your pixels together though wouldn't you? To each his own...
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5.1 vs. 6.1 or 7.1 is a quantity issue, not a quality issue.

I would disagree with that. More channel seperation can very well lead to better enveloping sound.

I agree that all of the audio will be there. But a proper 7.1 discrete in a system that is built for it, blows away 5.1.
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You guys will be kicking yourselves when this gets re-released with "The Hobbit" in an Ultimate Box set completely remastered. This set is just using the same outdated masters, so don't expect any improvements.

I'm not buying anything until I see a review + screenshots.
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i'm not buying anything until i see a review + screenshots.

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