The Lord Of The Rings Extended - Page 16 - AVS Forum
Forum Jump: 
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #451 of 5576 Old 03-24-2011, 11:43 AM
Wireless member
 
pepar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Quintana Roo ... in my mind
Posts: 24,910
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Liked: 131
Quote:
Originally Posted by egrady View Post

While I can't disclose who this is, a certain company with a store here in TX did most of their business by mail order. Particularly in one other state. So, they decided to open a second store in that state. They ended up shutting down the second store because they lost more mail order business in that state than the second store was generating in sales.

Back before the internet, there was mail order catalogs with toll-free numbers. I had done a lot of buying from The Sharper Image until one order came with sales tax applied. They had put a store in PA and therefore had a "nexus." That was the last time I bought from TSI.

Jeff
pepar is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #452 of 5576 Old 03-24-2011, 02:15 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Geoff D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Swanage, Engerland
Posts: 2,326
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 46 Post(s)
Liked: 187
Quote:
Originally Posted by RWetmore View Post
I also feel the films were color graded a bit too much, resulting in somewhat of a loss of a true organic look and feel. A lighter touch in this regard would be much more effective, IMO.
Part of the reason they went with a DI is because of the unreliable NZ weather. They didn't grade the hell out of everything just because they wanted to, but it enabled them to keep shooting in certain conditions with the knowledge that they could match it all up later.
Geoff D is online now  
post #453 of 5576 Old 03-25-2011, 05:29 AM
Senior Member
 
02fx4dude's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SE Wisconsin
Posts: 368
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I got an email from amazon about my pre-order for the trilogy set. says the estimated delivery date is 6/28/11.

While I'm looking forward to getting this set on blu, I can honestly say I probably won't open it until september at the soonest. I can't justify sitting for hours in a dark room during the summer. But then I am in WI, so there's no guarantee we get a summer...
02fx4dude is offline  
post #454 of 5576 Old 03-25-2011, 06:38 AM
AVS Addicted Member
 
Franin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Western Australia
Posts: 17,002
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 45 Post(s)
Liked: 168
Quote:
Originally Posted by 02fx4dude View Post

I got an email from amazon about my pre-order for the trilogy set. says the estimated delivery date is 6/28/11.

While I'm looking forward to getting this set on blu, I can honestly say I probably won't open it until september at the soonest. I can't justify sitting for hours in a dark room during the summer. But then I am in WI, so there's no guarantee we get a summer...

Winter over here so looking forward to it.

_________________________

Frank

Franin is online now  
post #455 of 5576 Old 03-25-2011, 11:05 AM
Advanced Member
 
Pincho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 720
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
2 Disks.. Nooooooo!!!!!


Genius is an insult to my intelligence!

Pincho is offline  
post #456 of 5576 Old 03-25-2011, 11:25 AM
AVS Special Member
 
nick_danger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,405
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pincho View Post

2 Disks.. Nooooooo!!!!!

If they can get the longer "The Ten Commandments" on one disc and make it look as great as it does, there's no reason to split any of these onto multiple discs. Thank God I will simply be backing up all these as ISOs to my server, so I won't have to be bothered changing discs.



EDIT: I'm an idiot.
nick_danger is offline  
post #457 of 5576 Old 03-25-2011, 11:52 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Vortex3D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,057
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 15
At slickdeals where the wbshop sale was posted (25% and 20% off deals have expired), there are many who complained about having to swap the disc for Extended Edition movie. Reality is if WB chooses to release Ext Ed on single disc per movie, there will also be complains.

What WB should do is when they are ready to release the Ext Ed trilogy as individual movies, they should use a lower bitrate to compress the movies tighter to single disc per movie, and also keep the 2-disc per movie trilogy in the market. That way, those who don't want to swap disc during the movie can choose to buy the single-disc movie with lower quality. With individual movie usually sells for higher price than the cost per movie in the trilogy set, that should cover the cost of re-authoring the movie to single-disc. But will WB willing to put extra efforts in trying to satisfying different types of buyers?
Vortex3D is offline  
post #458 of 5576 Old 03-25-2011, 12:25 PM
Member
 
JoeyW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Detroit, MI
Posts: 134
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by nick_danger View Post

If they can get the longer "The Ten Commandments" on one disc and make it look as great as it does, there's no reason to split any of these onto multiple discs. Thank God I will simply be backing up all these as ISOs to my server, so I won't have to be bothered changing discs.


What are you talking about? Ten Commandments are on two blu-rays, split at the intermission.
JoeyW is offline  
post #459 of 5576 Old 03-25-2011, 12:26 PM
AVS Special Member
 
nick_danger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,405
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Yup, totally understand. I'd rather see overkill in this particular instance than another botched job.
nick_danger is offline  
post #460 of 5576 Old 03-25-2011, 12:27 PM
AVS Special Member
 
nick_danger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,405
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeyW View Post

What are you talking about? Ten Commandments are on two blu-rays, split at the intermission.

Wait... It is!!?? My bad!

EDIT: Original FAIL post edited. Sorry for the confusion.
nick_danger is offline  
post #461 of 5576 Old 03-25-2011, 12:28 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
DavidHir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 10,192
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 50 Post(s)
Liked: 377
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vortex3D View Post

At slickdeals where the wbshop sale was posted (25% and 20% off deals have expired), there are many who complained about having to swap the disc for Extended Edition movie. Reality is if WB chooses to release Ext Ed on single disc per movie, there will also be complains.

What WB should do is when they are ready to release the Ext Ed trilogy as individual movies, they should use a lower bitrate to compress the movies tighter to single disc per movie, and also keep the 2-disc per movie trilogy in the market. That way, those who don't want to swap disc during the movie can choose to buy the single-disc movie with lower quality. With individual movie usually sells for higher price than the cost per movie in the trilogy set, that should cover the cost of re-authoring the movie to single-disc. But will WB willing to put extra efforts in trying to satisfying different types of buyers?

I doubt any studio would do this. Anyone who wants the extended version on Blu-ray is going to buy this, split on two discs or not.

DavidHir is online now  
post #462 of 5576 Old 03-25-2011, 02:07 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Vortex3D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,057
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 15
Anyone remembers this TE and EE seamless branching edition on DVD? Maybe WB will triple-dip with seamless branching TE and EE edition on Blu-ray:

http://www.amazon.com/Rings-Trilogy-...086981&sr=1-11
Vortex3D is offline  
post #463 of 5576 Old 03-25-2011, 02:11 PM
AVS Special Member
 
b_scott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Chicago
Posts: 6,659
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 14
wow, I've never heard of that before.
b_scott is offline  
post #464 of 5576 Old 03-25-2011, 03:27 PM
AVS Special Member
 
KMFDMvsEnya's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SLC, UT
Posts: 1,188
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 36
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pincho View Post

2 Disks.. Nooooooo!!!!!



Best Regards
KvE

Hurray for two disks per film.


Politics is like a corral, no matter where you are you'll always be shovelling it.

KMFDMvsEnya is offline  
post #465 of 5576 Old 03-25-2011, 03:30 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Geoff D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Swanage, Engerland
Posts: 2,326
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 46 Post(s)
Liked: 187
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vortex3D View Post

Anyone remembers this TE and EE seamless branching edition on DVD? Maybe WB will triple-dip with seamless branching TE and EE edition on Blu-ray:

http://www.amazon.com/Rings-Trilogy-...086981&sr=1-11

Yep, got 'em on my shelf. And I'll bet cash money that the discs with the Costa Botes documentaries are the exact same ones that are in the Blu-ray set. So ****ing lazy of Warners, but what can you do?
Geoff D is online now  
post #466 of 5576 Old 03-25-2011, 04:37 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
Franin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Western Australia
Posts: 17,002
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 45 Post(s)
Liked: 168
Quote:
Originally Posted by kmfdmvsenya View Post


best regards
kve

hurray for two disks per film. :d

+1

_________________________

Frank

Franin is online now  
post #467 of 5576 Old 03-25-2011, 05:49 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Vortex3D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,057
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff D View Post

Yep, got 'em on my shelf. And I'll bet cash money that the discs with the Costa Botes documentaries are the exact same ones that are in the Blu-ray set. So ****ing lazy of Warners, but what can you do?

From the EE Blu-ray description, all the Bonus/Special Features on the 9 DVD discs are recycled from the DVD editions.

Compared to Pirates of Caribbean 1 on Blu-ray, the 2nd disc contains the same 4GB of SD bonus materials from the DVD edition but Disney put it on Blu-ray disc anyway. WB went the cheap route by recycling the same DVD discs on the Blu-ray edition.

Here's a question. At what point when the movie studio mixes Blu-ray and DVD discs in the movie set before it can't be called "Blu-ray edition" anymore? Just the movie on BD is enough or total number of discs format? With LOTR EE, it's obvious that as long the movie is on BD, the entire set can be called "Blu-ray Edition".
Vortex3D is offline  
post #468 of 5576 Old 03-25-2011, 07:01 PM
AVS Special Member
 
RWetmore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Brick, New Jersey
Posts: 3,122
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 43
Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff D View Post

Part of the reason they went with a DI is because of the unreliable NZ weather. They didn't grade the hell out of everything just because they wanted to, but it enabled them to keep shooting in certain conditions with the knowledge that they could match it all up later.

I know, but I feel they went a bit too far and a significant degree of a genuinely organic look and feel was diminished as a result. Many of the scenes/locations were deliberately cast in certain color palettes. Maybe that's exactly what they wanted, but IMO it's a bit too much.
RWetmore is offline  
post #469 of 5576 Old 03-25-2011, 07:33 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Osirus23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,218
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked: 180
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vortex3D View Post

Here's a question. At what point when the movie studio mixes Blu-ray and DVD discs in the movie set before it can't be called "Blu-ray edition" anymore? Just the movie on BD is enough or total number of discs format? With LOTR EE, it's obvious that as long the movie is on BD, the entire set can be called "Blu-ray Edition".

If the films are on BD then its a BD edition, the 'special features' and whatever other crap they cram into the package is irrelevant.
Osirus23 is offline  
post #470 of 5576 Old 03-25-2011, 11:37 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Faceless Rebel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,381
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osirus23 View Post

If the films are on BD then its a BD edition, the 'special features' and whatever other crap they cram into the package is irrelevant.

I disagree. Insofar as the extras are concerned, this should be called the "Half-Assed Blu-ray + DVD Edition." The jury is still out on the picture and sound quality of the films themselves.
Faceless Rebel is offline  
post #471 of 5576 Old 03-26-2011, 01:00 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Osirus23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,218
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked: 180
Quote:
Originally Posted by Faceless Rebel View Post

I disagree. Insofar as the extras are concerned, this should be called the "Half-Assed Blu-ray + DVD Edition." The jury is still out on the picture and sound quality of the films themselves.

Extras are irrelevant fluff that most people (myself included) don't give a crap about. If the film is on BD then its a BD release, period.
Osirus23 is offline  
post #472 of 5576 Old 03-26-2011, 02:23 AM
Wireless member
 
pepar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Quintana Roo ... in my mind
Posts: 24,910
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Liked: 131
Quote:
Originally Posted by Faceless Rebel View Post

I disagree. Insofar as the extras are concerned, this should be called the "Half-Assed Blu-ray + DVD Edition." The jury is still out on the picture and sound quality of the films themselves.

I disagree. The first were half, so these should at least be 3/4- or maybe even Full-assed.

Jeff
pepar is online now  
post #473 of 5576 Old 03-26-2011, 03:43 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Faceless Rebel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,381
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osirus23 View Post

Extras are irrelevant fluff that most people (myself included) don't give a crap about. If the film is on BD then its a BD release, period.

In the case of the extras which were included with the LOTR EE DVDs, you could not be more wrong. Many movies come with fluff extras. What the LOTR EE DVDs came with was mind-blowingly comprehensive and exhaustive. I cannot think of any single movie or trilogy release with amazing extras like the LOTR EE DVDs except Blade Runner - The Final Cut, which had a making-of documentary longer than the movie itself.
Faceless Rebel is offline  
post #474 of 5576 Old 03-26-2011, 05:41 AM
AVS Special Member
 
RobertR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: California
Posts: 6,078
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 114 Post(s)
Liked: 366
How about we just say one man's fluff is another man's interesting extras and leave it at that?
RobertR is online now  
post #475 of 5576 Old 03-26-2011, 01:35 PM
Advanced Member
 
Pincho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 720
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vortex3D View Post

At slickdeals where the wbshop sale was posted (25% and 20% off deals have expired), there are many who complained about having to swap the disc for Extended Edition movie. Reality is if WB chooses to release Ext Ed on single disc per movie, there will also be complains.

What WB should do is when they are ready to release the Ext Ed trilogy as individual movies, they should use a lower bitrate to compress the movies tighter to single disc per movie, and also keep the 2-disc per movie trilogy in the market. That way, those who don't want to swap disc during the movie can choose to buy the single-disc movie with lower quality. With individual movie usually sells for higher price than the cost per movie in the trilogy set, that should cover the cost of re-authoring the movie to single-disc. But will WB willing to put extra efforts in trying to satisfying different types of buyers?

Nah, just reduce the sound from HD sound. I don't have an HD amp anyway. Most Blu Rays sound horrible compared with DVD.

Genius is an insult to my intelligence!

Pincho is offline  
post #476 of 5576 Old 03-26-2011, 01:45 PM
Advanced Member
 
DeAd MiKe 187's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 826
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pincho View Post

Most Blu Rays sound horrible compared with DVD.

Are you saying that DVD sounds better or did you mix that up?
DeAd MiKe 187 is offline  
post #477 of 5576 Old 03-26-2011, 01:58 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Geoff D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Swanage, Engerland
Posts: 2,326
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 46 Post(s)
Liked: 187
Don't go there Mike. You'll regret it.
Geoff D is online now  
post #478 of 5576 Old 03-26-2011, 02:21 PM
Advanced Member
 
Stinky-Dinkins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: USA
Posts: 912
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 13
I'm ready to get Pincho'd.

I've prepared myself this time.
Stinky-Dinkins is offline  
post #479 of 5576 Old 03-26-2011, 02:33 PM
sb1
AVS Special Member
 
sb1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 7,230
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20 Post(s)
Liked: 126
Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff D View Post

Don't go there Mike. You'll regret it.

This thread now has the potential to be better than any movie from the last 5 years.

Stephen.

Chances are very good that I was drinking when I posted the above.

sb1 is online now  
post #480 of 5576 Old 03-26-2011, 02:57 PM
 
dvdmike007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 8,687
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeAd MiKe 187 View Post

Are you saying that DVD sounds better or did you mix that up?

uh oh spaghettios
dvdmike007 is offline  
Reply Blu-ray Software

User Tag List

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off