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Old 12-11-2011, 07:05 PM
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So is the US the same transfer as the UK or is the US a better transfer?

20th Century Fox released both the UK/US discs. They include the exact same contents and have the exact same excellent PQ. Even the menus are identical. I've checked...

Great looking disc BTW. Watched the UK disc a few months ago and was blown away.
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For any one who purchased this, do you still have the sheet that was rubber-cemented to the back of the digibook? Mine was damaged, so I removed it and threw it away. I believe that sheet is the only place the catalog number appears for this Blu-ray. If someone still has it, can you please tell me what the catalog number is? It usually appears just below the UPC.

The Blu-ray catalog number for Tora! Tora! Tora! is: 2276221

BTW, on this sheet the catalog number is just above the UPC.

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The Blu-ray catalog number for Tora! Tora! Tora! is: 2276221

BTW, on this sheet the catalog number is just above the UPC.

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Thanks. Very helpful.
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...TTT is pretty close to a documentry. As opposed the typical war film, such as Midway, that contains human interest stories. In TTT the story is the event, as opposed to character development and interaction. Which you prefer is a personal choice....

"Human interest stories"? LOL! The term is soap opera! And that is what is wrong with most war movies, the filmmakers cannot ressist the temptation to ruin thes movies by mixing fictional characters into an otherwise true account. These characters are always involved in a silly love triangle or some other relationship that is totally irrelevant to the war, and that no one really cares about anyway. No, TTT did it the right way, and as a result, it is a gripping drama that is never boring in the least.

Speaking of Midway, it contains many serious flaws, not the least is the earlier mentioned soap opera aspect. Also, it has what is most likely the worst editing of any movie I have ever seen. In addition, much of the dialog is childish and trite-sounding, as if it had been written by someone like Ed Wood! In fact, Plan 9 From Outer Space actually sounds more professionally written in some places!

On a positive note, the Blu-ray transfer of TTT is one of the very best I have seen in a long time. And again, I am really glad they did NOT make it into a soap opera.
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"Human interest stories"? LOL! The term is soap opera! And that is what is wrong with most war movies, the filmmakers cannot ressist the temptation to ruin thes movies by mixing fictional characters into an otherwise true account. These characters are always involved in a silly love triangle or some other relationship that is totally irrelevant to the war, and that no one really cares about anyway. No, TTT did it the right way, and as a result, it is a gripping drama that is never boring in the least.

It's sad, but movies about military campaigns that simply "tell the damned story" never do particularly well with critics or moviegoers. The Longest Day is probably an exception.
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No, TTT did it the right way, and as a result, it is a gripping drama that is never boring in the least.

Agreed! I wish more war flicks were told this way. I love A Bridge To Far for the same reasons.
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I found this article linked on another forum...

http://www.military.com/entertainmen...2887570&rank=3

As for the transfer on the new US Blu-ray, it is a serious step up from the original BD released in some other territories earlier. I can't speak to any recent releases in other countries, but I saw a BD from a year or two ago and this new disc smokes it.
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I saw a BD from a year or two ago and this new disc smokes it.

Great news...looks like my first double dip BD.

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Must be the digibook placebo effect, they look identical to me.
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I can't speak to any recent releases in other countries, but I saw a BD from a year or two ago and this new disc smokes it.

Eh, I'm calling BS on the "new transfer". The screenshots on blu-ray.com look exactly the same as the UK version I got for Christmas last year, including the opening menus and subtitle font.

Don't get me wrong, it's as gorgeous now as it was then, but it's not new.
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Agreed! I wish more war flicks were told this way. I love A Bridge To Far for the same reasons.

add me to that list... imo, all the extraneous fluff takes away from the "real story" being told...

but that's me... i have no problem sitting through all 3 1/2 hours of "das boot" (well, with the exception of an occasional pause for a nature break )...

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And again, I am really glad they did NOT make it into a soap opera.

You mean like Pearl Harbor
What a piece of cheese that was

Classic war movie on BD, I'm in! I haven't seen TTT for many many years.

Das Boot - one of the best, chris

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^^^

i'm in too... i don't think i've actually seen the whole thing since WAY back in the day at the drive-in...

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"Human interest stories"? LOL! The term is soap opera! And that is what is wrong with most war movies, the filmmakers cannot ressist the temptation to ruin thes movies by mixing fictional characters into an otherwise true account. These characters are always involved in a silly love triangle or some other relationship that is totally irrelevant to the war, and that no one really cares about anyway. No, TTT did it the right way, and as a result, it is a gripping drama that is never boring in the least.

And yet FROM HERE TO ETERNITY is by far the best Pearl Harbor movie.
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A MILLION TIMES BETTER!
(of coarse not, butt still, a BIG A/V jump up in quality/really didn't think it could look this good in HD in 2011)
Fox really came though with this one.

The first shot of the Japanese flag flying & the second shot of the American flag flying was eye candy. A shot in the US State Dept with the ambassador alone behind the desk was all most 3D.

I'm not even a fan of "skies" in HD; yet skies were good after the opening credits; except for one shot from a ship where the sky was an unattractive pinkish mess on the up left of the screen.

I seriously doubt, with theater presentation limitation, that 80% of the patrons back-in-the-day saw a film with this proper scope, color balance, & contrast the Blu-ray release exhibits.

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I found this article linked on another forum...

http://www.military.com/entertainmen...2887570&rank=3

As for the transfer on the new US Blu-ray, it is a serious step up from the original BD released in some other territories earlier. I can't speak to any recent releases in other countries, but I saw a BD from a year or two ago and this new disc smokes it.

I wouldn't say smokes it, both are pretty good, but the new one definitely wins by not having the severe EE.
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You mean like Pearl Harbor
What a piece of cheese that was

Classic war movie on BD, I'm in! I haven't seen TTT for many many years.

Das Boot - one of the best, chris

I agree completely on all counts. Pearl Harbor was terrible, merely a long, drawn-out "potboiler". Even the special effects of ships exploding were ridiculously exaggerated.

And you are right, Das Boot is one of the best movies, of any genre, ever made.
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And yet FROM HERE TO ETERNITY is by far the best Pearl Harbor movie.

You cannot draw any kind of comparison between TTT and From Here to Eternity. The latter is a human drama about army life and really has little to do with the Pearl Harbor attack, which only happens near the end of the movie anyway, and has little, if any effect on any of the main characters. The whole setting really could easily have been moved to a different place and different time without having any significant effect on the story.

Drawing a comparison between TTT and From Here to Eternity is about as big a stretch as a comparison between TTT and the musical, South Pacific.
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You cannot draw any kind of comparison between TTT and From Here to Eternity.

And yet, he did.

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From Here to Eternity is not even a war movie ' just a love story.It is a great movie but to compare it to TTT is stupid.
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From Here to Eternity is not even a war movie ' just a love story.

You don't necessarily need depictions of tanks blowing up buildings to have a war movie.

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It is a great movie but to compare it to TTT is stupid.

You can learn something by comparing/contrasting any movie with any other movie.

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I found this article linked on another forum...

http://www.military.com/entertainmen...2887570&rank=3

As for the transfer on the new US Blu-ray, it is a serious step up from the original BD released in some other territories earlier. I can't speak to any recent releases in other countries, but I saw a BD from a year or two ago and this new disc smokes it.

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Must be the digibook placebo effect, they look identical to me.

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Eh, I'm calling BS on the "new transfer". The screenshots on blu-ray.com look exactly the same as the UK version I got for Christmas last year, including the opening menus and subtitle font.

Don't get me wrong, it's as gorgeous now as it was then, but it's not new.

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A MILLION TIMES BETTER!
(of coarse not, butt still, a BIG A/V jump up in quality/really didn't think it could look this good in HD in 2011)
Fox really came though with this one.

The first shot of the Japanese flag flying & the second shot of the American flag flying was eye candy. A shot in the US State Dept with the ambassador alone behind the desk was all most 3D.

I'm not even a fan of "skies" in HD; yet skies were good after the opening credits; except for one shot from a ship where the sky was an unattractive pinkish mess on the up left of the screen.

I seriously doubt, with theater presentation limitation, that 80% of the patrons back-in-the-day saw a film with this proper scope, color balance, & contrast the Blu-ray release exhibits.

Well Done!!

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I wouldn't say smokes it, both are pretty good, but the new one definitely wins by not having the severe EE.

So is this new release better A/V than the old Blu-ray or not? I'm not detecting much in the way of consensus.
So is this new release better A/V than the old Blu-ray or not?
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Just bought it and watched with my wife.(she'd never seen it before). Picture was superb(with some nit-pickiness here and there). Audio could have been better. Essentially the sound was augmented stereo. There was never any rear-speaker action. If I had to grade it. Audio: C+ Picture A-, Overall A/B+
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