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post #31 of 310 Old 01-07-2012, 06:59 AM - Thread Starter
 
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I am buyin all the versions I can and then the queen
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post #32 of 310 Old 01-07-2012, 12:46 PM
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I just hope the Blu-ray will have a really good...really super transfer.

Drive was recorded digitally, so hopefully there won't be any issues.

Movies must be OAR, sports and movies must also have 5.1 audio, No EE or NO SALE!
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Sony plus digital, I think it will be just fine
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Digitally shot movies "usually" have decent transfers. Though I've known of digitally shot movies that have had bad transfers. And when that happens, it's usually written about it here.

Can't wait to see the screen shots!

Was shot on Alexa , Alexa footage like any other raw footage goes throgh significant color correction to give the final look for its target end delivery format, the video conversion is also normally slightly tweaked to best compromise it into the lesser colorspace.

Its not a question of just pushing a button or baking a simple lut into it. It requires subjective creative decision making and no two colorists will ever produce the exact same transfer in visual terms.

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I found this movie a complete mess.

From it's opening and ending credits in "girls just want to have fun" pink script, to it's boring set of characters not one of which you could even begin to care for or about.

It didn't make me think. It had no message. The ending wasn't interesting in any way.

The only thing i cheered about was when the movie ended.

I'd have called it "Snoozer without a cause" instead.

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I found this movie a complete mess.

From it's opening and ending credits in "girls just want to have fun" pink script,

Its an homage to 80s film noir. Specifically "Thief" by Michael Mann , also the Tangerine Dream style soundtrack again evocative of the 80s.

I loved everything about it , best film I've seen in years.

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Its an homage to 80s film noir. Specifically "Thief" by Michael Mann , also the Tangerine Dream style soundtrack again evocative of the 80s.

I loved everything about it , best film I've seen in years.

Exactly
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Exactly

Exactly exactly!

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Anyone looking for modern film noir would be better off getting "Manhunter" and "Heat". 2 moves about 1000 times better then "Driver".

If you're looking for something a little more modern, I suggest "Training Day" and "A History of Violence".

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Anyone looking for modern film noir would be better off getting "Manhunter" and "Heat". 2 moves about 1000 times better then "Driver".

If you're looking for something a little more modern, I suggest "Training Day" and "A History of Violence".

Training Day is garbage, why come into the thread to slate the movie?
I avoid the lord of the rings thread for a reason.
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Training Day is garbage, why come into the thread to slate the movie?
I avoid the lord of the rings thread for a reason.

I don't post a lot on here because I'm an observer but I had to on this idiotic post. Training Day isn't garbage. How does a movie that had the Best Actor winner and a nominee for Best Supporting Actor be characterized as garbage? No matter what you thought about the movie it isn't garbage.
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I don't post a lot on here because I'm an observer but I had to on this idiotic post. Training Day isn't garbage. How does a movie that had the Best Actor winner and a nominee for Best Supporting Actor be characterized as garbage? No matter what you thought about the movie it isn't garbage.

Point was each to their own, but no one expects to come into the drive thread to hear it slagged off, in fact mods are against it.
Also since when did awards equal quality? I don't like it, but I don't feel the need to tell everyone.
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I think its okay to come into a thread and critique a film whether negatively or positively as long as it adds to the discussion; simply stating that a film is "bad" and that therefor there are other films which are "better" than it is somewhat a waste of bandwidth.

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Amazing movie, can't wait 'til the 31st!
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Haven't seen it yet, but I love the look and the vibe of the trailers. Will buy it blind.
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I found this movie a complete mess.

From it's opening and ending credits in "girls just want to have fun" pink script, to it's boring set of characters not one of which you could even begin to care for or about.

It didn't make me think. It had no message. The ending wasn't interesting in any way.

I'm with you on this. Aside from the very suspenseful opening scene, I thought the film was terrible. It just made me want to watch a real '80s movie, rather than this inferior carbon copy of one.

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Hot damn this disc is locked down tight!!

Best I can do for now:

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Disc Size: 35,594,592,522 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
Playlist: 00006.MPLS
Size: 0 bytes
Length: 0:01:02.000
Total Bitrate: 0.00 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 0 kbps / 1080i / 25 fps / 16:9
Audio: English / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz

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Looks good, but the Sony will beat it I bet
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I hope so. It also looks a little yellow.

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I remember the movie in general looking fairly warm, so the look on this BD is probably accurate. It's also worth noting this was shot digitally, so we're looking at a general lack of grain (save for a little video "noise" in night scenes) that's much easier to encode and generally requires less in the way of bitrate to render adequately. Unless there's a glaring flaw(s) in color/contrast on this release I really don't see how Sony could improve upon it much.
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I hope so. It also looks a little yellow.

It looks correct, I saw it digitally more than once.
This is a small encode, 20gb I would wager Sony would use more of the disc.
There is also very very little noise on the night scenes as it was shoot that way.
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I remember the movie in general looking fairly warm, so the look on this BD is probably accurate. It's also worth noting this was shot digitally, so we're looking at a general lack of grain (save for a little video "noise" in night scenes) that's much easier to encode and generally requires less in the way of bitrate to render adequately. Unless there's a glaring flaw(s) in color/contrast on this release I really don't see how Sony could improve upon it much.

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It looks correct, I saw it digitally more than once.
This is a small encode, 20gb I would wager Sony would use more of the disc.
There is also very very little noise on the night scenes as it was shoot that way.

I also remember it looking fairly 'yellow' or warm throughout the movie. Screencaps look good. Hope the US version looks at least as good with no mega contrast boost or yucky EE.

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I also remember it looking fairly 'yellow' or warm throughout the movie. Screencaps look good. Hope the US version looks at least as good with no mega contrast boost or yucky EE.

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There is also very very little noise on the night scenes as it was shoot that way.

Arri alexa has very tiny amounts of noise generally and is about the cleanest camera I've seen to be honest. ( to the extent its actually quite difficult to match the noise characteristics )

Its also very very film like in its exposure latitude and gamut, depite being ony 2k it has extremely good resolving and filtering characteristics.

Generally speaking I love it and I think it completely outclasses RED even at 4k and above.

The new bond film is also being shot on Alexa and generally speaking I see film -makers flocking to this camera as its comparatively cheap , well built and behaves a lot like a traditional arri film camera.

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Arri alexa has very tiny amounts of noise generally and is about the cleanest camera I've seen to be honest. ( to the extent its actually quite difficult to match the noise characteristics )

Its also very very film like in its exposure latitude and gamut, depite being ony 2k it has extremely good resolving and filtering characteristics.

Generally speaking I love it and I think it completely outclasses RED even at 4k and above.

The new bond film is also being shot on Alexa and generally speaking I see film -makers flocking to this camera as its comparatively cheap , well built and behaves a lot like a traditional arri film camera.

I love it too, Sigel was shocked at how clean it was at night.
He was expecting a ton of noise, and it was just not there.
It adds to the dream like qualities of the film.
The night scenes remind me of the Terminator but cleaner, the colour's are identical in places.
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