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So far (unconfirmed) I hear its closer to the UK version

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Here's a link to the digital copy of the 'Drive' article in the UK publication 'Little White Lies'...(a copy of this comes with some versions of the Canadian bluray release)...
...just click on Goslings ugly mug (face) to launch...

http://www.littlewhitelies.co.uk/the-magazine/issue-37
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I watched Drive again last night, this time on BD. I continue to think it's a pretty good film, too, but was weakened by Ryan Gosling's actorish performance. As you both noted, his smirking was annoying. Even more annoying, though, was his affectation with the toothpick. What was that about? And almost as bad was his dead eyed catatonic stare.

The music was well chosen,too, and it sounded great.

Well the dead eyed catatonic stare IMO was just part of his strange, loner, dark past detached character...almost like a serial killer with a good heart. And keep in mind his character is an oddball so anything like smirking just adds to his basket of weird mysterious clicks. If he was playing a judge or someone normal then it would be annoying. Btw someone mentioned that Keanu reeves would have been better since he has no emotion in his character and has that quiet, stoic part down pat.

As for the music, it was good by itself but to me didn't really match the mood or the film. It was almost too kiddy-like. For me Night Moves by Bob Seger would have been 100x better and matched the slow flow and mood of the film.
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zoey67,

you miss the point on so many locations.

collateral and Leon are amazing movies and have nothing to do with Drive,

i love Collateral and Leon and i HATE Drive.

also were is the suspence in Drive after the first 5 minutes?

what happened to those charchters he helped in the first 5 minutes?
what was ryan goslings charchters past that he became so dark?
why does he suddenly care about the family?

nothing gets explained. nothing! it is simply watching paint dry.

again there are lots of great tv series with hardly have any action at all, which are 10000x better then Drive.

the Wire, Madman, Boardwalk Empire. those series dont have much action, but incredible stories and acting and cinematography that keeps you in there.

dont get me wrong though. if you like Drive fair enough, but please dont compare Drive to Leon or Colletral which i really like. people who may read you post will think, i like Leon and Colleteral, then buy Drive and could be like me hugely disspointed, because the movie aint nothing like it.

To be fair. The director doesn't intend for you to know what happened to the characters at the beginning of the movie. The point is they are not important to him and should not be to you. There 5 minute window was up and that's it. After its up they're on their own, he has absolutely no connection in any way to his "clients" which is something you're supposed to be getting. The "origin" of the Driver character is not important. All that's important is the uneasy feeling that you get when he reacts. This clearly was the intention of the director and writer. They want you to be in awe with the characters rage and wonder where it comes from. Lastly I really do not know what you feel needs to be explained. This movie was one of the best movies I have seen in years. It had the right amount of action and art/noire needed to make an instant classic. To compare this to other movies like Collateral which was a summer cash grab action movie at best is a sin. This movie was advertised as an action movie of sorts which is why some people left it feeling disappointed. The ones who knew what they were going to watch left the movie ecstatic.

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I was with you right up to this...

"To compare this to other movies like Collateral which was a summer cash grab action movie at best is a sin."

Collateral is way better than you give it credit for.
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Dear help me, I was actually looking for a copy of Valentine's Day on BD, just for the pink case.
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Is there not a movie discussion forum here? Seriously.

Go to imdb.com for that.

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Watched tonite.
So much is RIGHT with this movie....BUT....
As it turns out, Drive is a film in search of a destination.
Unfortunately, it really is unsure of what it wants to say or go.

Allegedly, this is a movie about "driving....."
In reality, driving has almost nothing to do with the story arc.
This is a story about revenge...or something else.

The cinematography is superb, and without it, I don't how far I would have lasted.

Fine performance by Gosling and CM (again).
Brooks and Perlman are OK, but nothing spectacular.

The pop songs pulled me right out, very poor decision to include them in the soundtrack (which was perfect).

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Watched tonite.
So much is RIGHT with this movie....BUT....
As it turns out, Drive is a film in search of a destination.
Unfortunately, it really is unsure of what it wants to say or go.

Allegedly, this is a movie about "driving....."
In reality, driving has almost nothing to do with the story arc.
This is a story about revenge...or something else.

The cinematography is superb, and without it, I don't how far I would have lasted.

Fine performance by Gosling and CM (again).
Brooks and Perlman are OK, but nothing spectacular.

The pop songs pulled me right out, very poor decision to include them in the soundtrack (which was perfect).

Drive has more than one meaning....
He is driven to do the things he does as finally in his life he meets someone who treats him like a real human.
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Dear help me, I was actually looking for a copy of Valentine's Day on BD, just for the pink case.

Steady, man. Get a hold of yourself........
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The cinematography is superb, and without it, I don't how far I would have lasted.

That was my experience as well. ALMOST turned it off at the ~1 hour mark as the movie was doing very little for me. I found the main character pretty unconvincing in his role which was the biggest problem with the film for me.

Audio was good and supported the film beautifully, but nothing memorable and certainly nothing you would throw on for "demo" purposes.

PQ/cinematography was excellent and the star of the show IMO.

Overall, glad I rented!

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That was my experience as well. ALMOST turned it off at the ~1 hour mark as the movie was doing very little for me. I found the main character pretty unconvincing in his role which was the biggest problem with the film for me.

Audio was good and supported the film beautifully, but nothing memorable and certainly nothing you would throw on for "demo" purposes.

PQ/cinematography was excellent and the star of the show IMO.

Overall, glad I rented!

I agree with you entirely. The look and sound of the film were both wonderful and I loved the way it was edited. All of that was so good that when I saw it for the second time, this time on BD, I managed to avoid being turned off by how unconvincing Gosling's Driver was.
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Dear help me, I was actually looking for a copy of Valentine's Day on BD, just for the pink case.

I thought this was a miss post, then I realised the genius! I am raiding work tomorrow!!
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He is driven to do the things he does as finally in his life he meets someone who treats him like a real human.

I understand that.
But I wasn't convinced a person like him would do what he later did.
It didn't ring true for me.

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I understand that.
But I wasn't convinced a person like him would do what he later did.
It didn't ring true for me.

It's the only way he knows to deal with problems due to his upbringings on the dark side of the world.
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I like the movie so much I bought the music CD and have an image from the movie set as wallpaper on my computer.

http://hdwallpapersdesktop.com/Movie...2011/index.htm


The one I'm currently using is the blond sitting in the hallway next to her apartment.

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I like the movie so much I bought the music CD and have an image from the movie set as wallpaper on my computer.

http://hdwallpapersdesktop.com/Movie...2011/index.htm

The one I'm currently using is the blond sitting in the hallway next to her apartment.

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Quite possibly the most overhyped & overrated movie of 2011.
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The one [computer wallpaper] I'm currently using is the blond sitting in the hallway next to her apartment.

Earlier today I posted to the other Drive thread that I loved Carey Mulligan as Irene in Drive. I really liked the scene in the apartment house hallway when the Driver came out of his apartment and saw Irene sitting on the hall floor. She was adorable. No wonder the Driver was willing to do what he did for her.
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It's the only way he knows to deal with problems due to his upbringings on the dark side of the world.

I think he handles it the way he does because he's a sociopath.
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I think he handles it the way he does because he's a sociopath.


Got it in one.

And he knows he's one and he uses it. However he's also smart enough to now he's not happy about it or at least knows he's missing something. Irene and her son (and even her husband strangely) allow him to access , albeit fleetingly , a part of his emotional life that is always normally elusive to him.

I think the film riffs on the idea that archetypal heroes and their heroic acts would be more appropriately regarded as the handywork of abnormal mindsets and consequently the most effective heroes are in fact likely to be sociopaths.

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I think he handles it the way he does because he's a sociopath.

Its nurture not nature
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You've mentioned his upbringing twice already but nothing suggests that in the film - or are you getting it from the book (not read it meself)?
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Why am I not surprised that some people don't like the film? After all the director is known for indie foreign films. I suspect they have a real let down when it turns out NOT to be a car chase action movie but instead slow paced realism like many indie films. Of course I am a big fan of indie productions because they tend to be more honest.
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Why am I not surprised that some people don't like the film? After all the director is known for indie foreign films. I suspect they have a real let down when it turns out NOT to be a car chase action movie but instead slow paced realism like many indie films. Of course I am a big fan of indie productions because they tend to be more honest.

A poor generalization. I am a big fan of indie and foriegn films, yet did not like Drive.

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You've mentioned his upbringing twice already but nothing suggests that in the film - or are you getting it from the book (not read it meself)?

Book, and hints in dialogue and actions
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Its nurture not nature

Well, the way he was nurtured probably turned him into a socially inept sociopath. The Driver's main problem in life is that he only looks comfortable when there is a hammer in his hand.
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Well, the way he was nurtured probably turned him into a socially inept sociopath. The Driver's main problem in life is that he only looks comfortable when there is a hammer in his hand.

I would say with steering wheel in hand and meet in the middle
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I watched it last night have to admit i fell asleep. Ill have to rewatch it on a later date to give it another go.

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