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I have three previous DVD versions and they all have the same transfer. I used the initail release (1999) for comparison. When I saw the first HD broadcast (2010) the difference in PQ over any other version I have seen is like night and day. Of course it's still degraded because of the inherent nature of broadcast television in the US. I finally pop in the blu-ray disc and it was beautiful. The fine details, the sharpness and the colors shine on my viewing set. When studios make proper HD transfers it makes my home theater worthwhile.
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DVD 1999

ABCHD Mpeg-2

File size: 16.90 GB

Bitrate: 10.32 Mbps


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Sequence Summary:

File Size Processed: 16.94 GB, Play Time: 03h:38m:57s
1280 x 720, 59.94 fps, 24.00 Mbps (10.32 Mbps Average).
Average Video Quality: 21.01 KB/Frame, 0.19 Bits/Pixel.
AC3 Audio: 3/2 Channels (L, C, R, SL, SR) + LFE, 48.0 kHz, 384 kbps.
Dialog Normalization: -27.0 dB, Center Mix Level: -3.0 dB, Surround Mix Level: -3.0 dB
1 of 787492 video frames found with errors.
0 of 410562 audio frames found with errors.
385 corrupted video bytes in file.
0.000000 seconds of video timestamp gaps.
0.000000 seconds of audio timestamp gaps.

End of Log
Blu-ray Disc 1 file size: 39.2 GB

Bitrate: 34.59 mbps AVC


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Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00000.MPLS                                                      AVC     2:15:48 42,161,055,744  42,665,768,693  41.39   34.59   DTS-HD Master 5.1 3274Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)
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DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     TEN_COMMANDMENTS_DISC_1
Disc Size:      42,665,768,693 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        Yes
BDInfo:         0.5.6

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00000.MPLS
Length:                 2:15:48 (h:m:s)
Size:                   42,161,055,744 bytes
Total Bitrate:          41.39 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        34592 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         3274 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 3274 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio             English         256 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 256 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio             French          192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio             Spanish         192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio             Portuguese      256 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 256 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio             English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         48.425 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         50.992 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          49.009 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         49.312 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Portuguese      49.535 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          0.377 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         1.215 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Portuguese      0.232 kbps                      

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00379.M2TS      0:00:00.000     2:15:48.807     42,161,055,744  41,391          

CHAPTERS:

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------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:01:39.891     35,552 kbps     41,983 kbps     00:01:35.470    37,668 kbps     00:01:31.716    37,276 kbps     00:01:26.544    185,273 bytes   531,679 bytes   00:00:03.003    
2               0:01:39.891     0:02:27.063     35,367 kbps     39,042 kbps     00:03:49.896    37,252 kbps     00:03:45.892    37,027 kbps     00:03:40.887    184,389 bytes   483,495 bytes   00:02:27.397    
3               0:04:06.955     0:05:37.545     32,621 kbps     43,386 kbps     00:04:20.385    38,121 kbps     00:04:16.464    37,521 kbps     00:04:11.376    170,071 bytes   503,293 bytes   00:06:22.090    
4               0:09:44.500     0:03:10.732     27,355 kbps     38,565 kbps     00:12:46.891    37,172 kbps     00:12:45.055    36,991 kbps     00:12:40.050    142,617 bytes   473,284 bytes   00:11:19.595    
5               0:12:55.232     0:04:09.832     36,773 kbps     39,113 kbps     00:15:28.260    37,243 kbps     00:13:42.947    37,035 kbps     00:14:03.467    191,719 bytes   459,744 bytes   00:14:47.136    
6               0:17:05.065     0:03:17.572     36,624 kbps     38,214 kbps     00:19:46.894    37,168 kbps     00:17:39.433    36,995 kbps     00:17:39.433    190,939 bytes   449,171 bytes   00:19:46.059    
7               0:20:22.638     0:05:35.168     36,666 kbps     39,253 kbps     00:22:45.030    37,263 kbps     00:20:32.606    37,035 kbps     00:20:27.601    191,160 bytes   486,372 bytes   00:25:24.105    
8               0:25:57.806     0:01:31.841     35,804 kbps     39,196 kbps     00:26:17.158    37,205 kbps     00:26:17.951    37,003 kbps     00:26:12.779    186,664 bytes   469,335 bytes   00:26:17.993    
9               0:27:29.648     0:03:19.157     34,538 kbps     38,818 kbps     00:28:12.440    37,212 kbps     00:29:11.708    37,003 kbps     00:28:22.951    180,066 bytes   494,245 bytes   00:29:03.950    
10              0:30:48.805     0:05:28.369     36,505 kbps     38,855 kbps     00:32:29.989    37,274 kbps     00:31:57.498    37,003 kbps     00:31:52.493    190,321 bytes   475,743 bytes   00:33:25.545    
11              0:36:17.175     0:02:00.411     36,767 kbps     38,821 kbps     00:36:45.953    37,213 kbps     00:36:45.953    36,974 kbps     00:36:36.152    191,688 bytes   430,870 bytes   00:36:44.202    
12              0:38:17.586     0:05:28.953     36,616 kbps     38,828 kbps     00:40:10.658    37,203 kbps     00:39:01.797    37,012 kbps     00:41:14.305    190,898 bytes   449,694 bytes   00:41:07.756    
13              0:43:46.540     0:05:40.340     34,963 kbps     39,142 kbps     00:45:44.616    37,297 kbps     00:45:40.612    37,080 kbps     00:45:35.691    182,281 bytes   488,912 bytes   00:45:45.576    
14              0:49:26.880     0:10:02.852     31,416 kbps     38,674 kbps     00:51:15.072    37,140 kbps     00:51:11.068    36,987 kbps     00:51:06.063    163,788 bytes   435,738 bytes   00:50:52.340    
15              0:59:29.732     0:07:59.312     33,809 kbps     37,174 kbps     01:07:28.044    34,594 kbps     01:04:12.849    34,315 kbps     01:04:12.849    176,265 bytes   468,520 bytes   01:05:46.525    
16              1:07:29.045     0:07:56.893     32,839 kbps     39,286 kbps     01:15:04.708    37,295 kbps     01:15:00.829    37,012 kbps     01:14:57.659    171,209 bytes   453,037 bytes   01:15:06.668    
17              1:15:25.938     0:03:16.696     36,304 kbps     38,892 kbps     01:17:45.202    37,203 kbps     01:17:22.804    37,003 kbps     01:17:17.799    189,272 bytes   449,816 bytes   01:16:13.819    
18              1:18:42.634     0:08:48.945     35,834 kbps     38,923 kbps     01:24:44.996    37,149 kbps     01:25:47.892    36,968 kbps     01:25:42.887    186,824 bytes   435,520 bytes   01:24:06.207    
19              1:27:31.579     0:11:11.087     35,775 kbps     39,295 kbps     01:31:29.358    37,323 kbps     01:37:12.159    37,150 kbps     01:36:42.421    186,516 bytes   522,597 bytes   01:36:52.306    
20              1:38:42.666     0:03:16.029     32,993 kbps     37,227 kbps     01:38:43.542    36,917 kbps     01:38:43.417    36,167 kbps     01:38:43.042    172,012 bytes   430,979 bytes   01:38:43.667    
21              1:41:58.695     0:02:11.005     34,269 kbps     39,109 kbps     01:43:45.469    37,283 kbps     01:43:41.590    37,049 kbps     01:43:57.231    178,664 bytes   431,385 bytes   01:44:07.074    
22              1:44:09.701     0:03:18.156     35,977 kbps     39,064 kbps     01:44:17.084    37,259 kbps     01:44:13.080    37,043 kbps     01:47:16.680    187,567 bytes   456,436 bytes   01:45:01.753    
23              1:47:27.858     0:05:41.007     34,356 kbps     39,143 kbps     01:48:00.182    37,280 kbps     01:47:55.302    37,040 kbps     01:47:51.173    179,116 bytes   487,467 bytes   01:47:51.214    
24              1:53:08.865     0:03:19.282     33,688 kbps     38,338 kbps     01:53:24.005    37,070 kbps     01:55:17.035    36,944 kbps     01:55:12.030    175,631 bytes   489,886 bytes   01:53:51.908    
25              1:56:28.147     0:03:12.358     36,146 kbps     38,690 kbps     01:57:31.210    37,205 kbps     01:56:30.316    36,990 kbps     01:56:30.316    188,447 bytes   477,751 bytes   01:56:54.173    
26              1:59:40.506     0:03:08.938     35,047 kbps     38,564 kbps     02:01:41.961    37,207 kbps     02:01:38.040    36,995 kbps     02:01:32.994    182,718 bytes   508,578 bytes   02:00:01.944    
27              2:02:49.445     0:03:04.934     34,312 kbps     38,506 kbps     02:04:20.870    37,061 kbps     02:04:16.866    36,924 kbps     02:04:11.861    178,888 bytes   466,630 bytes   02:05:49.375    
28              2:05:54.380     0:02:49.252     35,915 kbps     39,107 kbps     02:06:32.751    37,207 kbps     02:06:29.748    36,986 kbps     02:06:25.369    187,244 bytes   507,499 bytes   02:06:19.530    
29              2:08:43.632     0:07:05.174     33,491 kbps     39,872 kbps     02:15:43.176    37,648 kbps     02:15:39.923    37,329 kbps     02:15:34.918    174,626 bytes   533,601 bytes   02:13:08.271    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00379.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     8148.641                34,592                  35,235,146,463  191,608,921     
00379.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           8148.641                3,274                   3,334,718,808   19,396,718      
00379.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           8148.641                256                     260,762,624     1,527,906       
00379.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x81            AC3             fra (French)            8148.641                192                     195,571,968     1,273,255       
00379.M2TS      4355 (0x1103)   0x81            AC3             spa (Spanish)           8148.641                192                     195,571,968     1,273,255       
00379.M2TS      4356 (0x1104)   0x81            AC3             por (Portuguese)        8148.641                256                     260,762,624     1,527,906       
00379.M2TS      4357 (0x1105)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           8148.641                192                     195,571,968     1,273,255       
00379.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           8148.641                48                      49,326,189      279,068         
00379.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           8148.641                51                      51,940,197      293,961         
00379.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            8148.641                49                      49,920,890      281,900         
00379.M2TS      4611 (0x1203)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           8148.641                49                      50,229,631      284,021         
00379.M2TS      4612 (0x1204)   0x90            PGS             por (Portuguese)        8148.641                50                      50,456,861      285,183         
00379.M2TS      4613 (0x1205)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            8148.641                0                       384,443         2,163           
00379.M2TS      4614 (0x1206)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           8148.641                1                       1,237,141       6,987           
00379.M2TS      4615 (0x1207)   0x90            PGS             por (Portuguese)        8148.641                0                       236,553         1,325
QUICK SUMMARY:

Disc Title: TEN_COMMANDMENTS_DISC_1
Disc Size: 42,665,768,693 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
Playlist: 00000.MPLS
Size: 42,161,055,744 bytes
Length: 2:15:48
Total Bitrate: 41.39 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 34592 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: English / DTS-HD Master Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 3274 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Audio: English / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 256 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
Audio: French / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB
Audio: Spanish / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB
Audio: Portuguese / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 256 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
Audio: English / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB
Subtitle: English / 48.425 kbps
Subtitle: English / 50.992 kbps
Subtitle: French / 49.009 kbps
Subtitle: Spanish / 49.312 kbps
Subtitle: Portuguese / 49.535 kbps
Subtitle: French / 0.377 kbps
Subtitle: Spanish / 1.215 kbps
Subtitle: Portuguese / 0.232 kbps

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Glad to see you're back! Even though I already own this and am amazed by it, it's great to have a "Xylon reference thread" just the same. :-)
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A major contender for disc of the year.
Actually it's probably a chariot race between this and Ben-Hur for the title. Both are worthy, but this clearly jumped the bigger gulf from a previous release, making it all the more appreciated.
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A nice way to start the year, thanks Xylon!

I really like how the fine detail shows up on the BD compared to the mpeg2 version while comparing.

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Yea thanks ! The color looks essentially identical to the broadcast but the resolution is a major jump.

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Yes, thanks for doing this Xylon.

Have we already discussed and resolved why the skies are now teal? Yes? Well, then, carry on.
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I actually like some of the colors better in the DVD on the comparison video. The blues, especially. Check the flower-throwing girls, for example. Their dresses look a touch washed-out in the blu-ray half.

Everything else, however, is clearly superior on the blu-ray.

Maybe I just like vibrant, saturated colors.

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