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The screenshot comparisons I'm looking forward to are the ones comparing the Bond movies previously released on Blu-ray with their counterparts in the Bond 50 set. Blu-ray to Blu-ray.

There are a number of people that decided to keep the 13 Bond titles they already own and simply pick up the 9 new-to-Blu-ray individual titles as they are released. DId MGM, in fact, just reuse the same Blu-ray encodes found on those original 13 for the Bond 50 set? Has anyone with the Bond 50 set actually compared them yet?

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Thank you very much, dvdmike (and others). Honestly, now that I'm reminded, I'm kneejerking so hard on the preexisting cropping issue that the contrast boost isn't nearly as much of an issue (DAF perhaps notwithstanding) as it probably would be otherwise...conversely, I'm most disappointed by the GE screenshots. Go figure.

That said, if Amazon actually does pricematch BB...

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Best Buy just officially dropped the price of the US Blu Ray Box set to $149.99
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Looks like video noise to me, not grain. The BD looks better.
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The grain is under the noise you can see it in motion
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lolwut?

What he means is that grain is visible in the HDTV capture, despite the presence of hideous noise.

While I agree that the Blu-ray looks better than the HDTV capture and is an improvement overall, the dimishing of grain is sad. However, it could be a lot worse.
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MGM are normally fantastic at this, shame they had to get the clown crew at Lowry involved
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Best Buy just officially dropped the price of the US Blu Ray Box set to $149.99

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The screenshot comparisons I'm looking forward to are the ones comparing the Bond movies previously released on Blu-ray with their counterparts in the Bond 50 set. Blu-ray to Blu-ray.
There are a number of people that decided to keep the 13 Bond titles they already own and simply pick up the 9 new-to-Blu-ray individual titles as they are released. DId MGM, in fact, just reuse the same Blu-ray encodes found on those original 13 for the Bond 50 set? Has anyone with the Bond 50 set actually compared them yet?
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According to reports, the already released titles are exactly the same discs. Just new labels.
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Comparison Goldeneye:
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After waiting all these years... what an unmitigated disaster. By far the worst of all 22. At least the other new ones looks alright
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I suspected the Bond releases would be a mixed bag. MGM simply did not have th budget to go back and restore these movies again. It sucks, but it is what it is. The heyday of home video sales has been over for years and the studios will have less budget to do the right thing (assuming they even would with the money). It would have been nice to get pristine copies with all the issues addressed (and there are issues) but face it folks, this may be as good as it gets for these films in most of our lifetime.

Sucks, but on the plus side, this is a cheap price to pay for 23 discs in a collectors set. 22 movies and 1 bonus disc comes to $6.52 per disc before tax at Best Buy...
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MGM simply did not have th budget to go back and restore these movies again. It sucks, but it is what it is. The heyday of home video sales has been over for years and the studios will have less budget to do the right thing (assuming they even would with the money).

Then release them into the public domain for enthusiasts to do better.

I mean, really, what is the point of sitting on the material when nothing will be done with it because it can't generate revenue and the negatives just continue to deteriorate? That's just mean and spiteful.
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These were done around the same time as the Star Wars Trilogy, so I am not surprised at what we have.

The proper setting for sharpness is always0.
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Then release them into the public domain for enthusiasts to do better.
I mean, really, what is the point of sitting on the material when nothing will be done with it because it can't generate revenue and the negatives just continue to deteriorate? That's just mean and spiteful.

Well they will most likely generate revenue, but MGM is not In a financial postion to upfront the money it would take to restore the films properly for Blu-Ray. And they would never just give them away as their catalog of movies is their biggest asset and what keeps them going. Personally, I wish someone like Warner would have bought them, but if you look at the home video revenue numbers the last few years, you will see the studios have lost billions of dollars and I suspect MGM is worth far less than they would have been just a few short years ago. For home video collectors, it sucks, but all we can do is take what we can get and hope for better down the road. But I am under no illusion that the Bond series will be restored properly anytime soon, and I have found all of them to be a big upgrade over the DVD versions I previously owned.
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Well they will most likely generate revenue, but MGM is not In a financial postion to upfront the money it would take to restore the films properly for Blu-Ray. And they would never just give them away as their catalog of movies is their biggest asset and what keeps them going.

The writing is already on the wall: studios sending small runs of catalogue titles to Twilight Time indicates the studios can't make enough from distribution and it will eventually flow onto Twilight time too.

As costs continue to increase, whilst their assets decrease (deteriorate), catalogue titles will spiral down to a point where they are just not profitable to release, period.

I blame lobbying on copyright that had it extended from the original purpose and tried to turn it into a golden goose: everything ultimately resides with the society that nurtured the artists involved in the creation as they stood on the shoulders of giants.
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We really don't know how Goldeneye looks till we see it, as we do not know how true those screen grabs are...

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We really don't know how Goldeneye looks till we see it, as we do not know how true those screen grabs are...
Swiss HD has the German set and made the screenshot. dvdmike has the UK set and agrees it looks bad.
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Swiss HD has the German set and made the screenshot. dvdmike has the UK set and agrees it looks bad.

So should I get rid of my Goldeneye SE DVD that was released in 1999?
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"Spy who loved me" Comparisons:

Set 1:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/146533

Set 2:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/146534

Finally a GREAT Update!

A little Contrast Boost but not nearly as offensive like in OHMSS.
I'm very happy with this Disc.
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http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?p=6491040#post6491040

The Spy who loved Me screen shots. The blu ray looks great to me. I wish they would have a shot of Barbara Bach's "assets"
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Best Buy just officially dropped the price of the US Blu Ray Box set to $149.99
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And Amazon (USA) just matched it.
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And Amazon (USA) just matched it.

at $149.99 gross it's still higher on a net basis vs. AmazonUk and Best Buy in store pick up when you factor shipping and taxes. To really match it, Amazon USA needs down to $135 gross. Still sticking with Amazon UK order.
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So should I get rid of my Goldeneye SE DVD that was released in 1999?

I've still got mine somewhere. It's strange, Goldeneye has never looked great on video, no matter what the format or version. But the sound on the 1999 DVD was reportedly mixed with the LFE 10db too hot, so it's a bass crazy track.
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The dts laser was the best mix, this box set is a nightmare of missed opportunities
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I think Goldeneye uses the old 1999 master ie they didn't redo the transfer, they just went back tio an original, probably 1080i native master.
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With added dnr
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Here's a funny one:
This is two adjacent frames in Goldeneye. As the shot fades to black, suddenly a bunch of detail 'pops' into the image. I think it is a bug in their denoise algorithms that turns off the DNR due to the fade. Kind of a DNR after/before !

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/146633
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I thought that all of the original 20 were hit with Lowry all at the same time, why are some of these so Patton'esque?

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"Spy who loved me" Comparisons:
Set 1:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/146533
Set 2:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/146534
Finally a GREAT Update!
A little Contrast Boost but not nearly as offensive like in OHMSS.
I'm very happy with this Disc.
Now that looks fantastic
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Amazon didn't drop my pre-order price with the limited edition book, so I cancelled that order and re-ordered it for $150. I won't get it on street date now (I don't get that, as I'm a Prime member and am supposed to get things on street date) but I can wait the two extra days.

And how is this more expensive than Best Buy? Don't they have to charge tax as well? And shipping form Amazon is free. If you do store pick-up with Best Buy you're driving there, which costs time and money.

Finally, The Spy Who Loved Me looks amazing versus the DVD according the few images we've seen. That's a true upgrade and looks to be wonderful.
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I thought that all of the original 20 were hit with Lowry all at the same time, why are some of these so Patton'esque?

Nope just the Connery ones and the first few Moore with a lot of opticals
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at $149.99 gross it's still higher on a net basis vs. AmazonUk and Best Buy in store pick up when you factor shipping and taxes. To really match it, Amazon USA needs down to $135 gross. Still sticking with Amazon UK order.

Quantum of Solace is region B locked, so it's pretty useless unless you have a region free player. If you're in the US, Amazon is a no-brainer.
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