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post #1 of 13 Old 01-17-2012, 07:41 AM - Thread Starter
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it looks like masters of cinema is releasing two-lane blacktop on BD...

Two-Lane Blacktop

screen shots look so so... I wasn't that impressed with Silent Running or Touch of Evil, this title look sot be about the same quality.

Still, I guess it's better than nothing. does anyone know if there is apotential release date for USA?

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It looks like it has the same god awful watercolour look that Don't Look Now had.
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Horrible, horrible disc:

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well that sucks...

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I originally bought the Criterion edition of this movie on DVD a few years ago. Evidently at the time it was a very good transfer.

Also at that time is when I learned the movie was originally filmed on 35mm film in the 2-perf format. Meaning, the resolution is half that of a movie shot using the "normal" 4-perf format.

Still, there are other films recorded in the 2-perf format that look much better on Blu-ray such as "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly." And that was an older restoration from about 10 years earlier that was transferred onto Blu-ray format. I believe that movie could look even better if given a proper transfer today.

The 2-perf format was used on a number of other films during that time period. The reason was good for movies with low budgets...simply, the 2-perf format saves 50% of the film costs.

Still, compared to what I saw on the most recent Blu-ray release of "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly," "Two Lane Blacktop" has a long way to go in the restoration AND transfer department.

It makes me wonder if they simply used the older transfer and simply used that for Blu-ray?

I will say the quality of the still frames here... http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Two-La...Blu-ray/30765/ look much better than the frame shots posted earlier in this thread.

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To be fair I only looked for worse moments because I have seen the Blu-ray.com caps before and these only show the better scenes although even these screencaps are full of DNR traces, especially the edges. The actual movie is much worse when you watch it (actually the review is ridiculous) so I wanted to show more of the dark side of this disc.

I wrote an email to Nick Wrigley asking who is responsible for that mess (Universal or Eureka). Usually Universal slap their DNR onto their titles during the authoring process and not on the master.
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It's a shame we have to have quality like this for any Blu-ray release. Personally, I think the quality of this movie would be much better if they copied ANY of the work prints (even for one used at a drive-in!) and have scanned it without any dirt/grain removal.

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Does anyone know if the new US criterion release is any better than the master of cinema release?

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Blu-ray is one of the few to do a comparison, so love em or hate em, here it is:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Two-Lane-Blacktop-Blu-ray/57779/#Review
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The restored high-definition transfer used for this release, which was supervised by director Monte Hellman, appears to have originated from the same source Eureka Entertainment had access to when they prepared their release of this cult American film. Criterion's high-definition transfer, however, is definitely more satisfying. Depth, in particular, is a lot better, both during close-ups and larger panoramic shots, due to the fact that the filtering corrections that could be spotted on the Eureka Entertainment release are not easy to see here. Definition is also marginally better, though it is obvious to me that the master from which the transfer was struck actually has its limitations (compare screencapture #2 with screencapture #1 from the Eureka Entertainment release). Furthermore, some light noise is present here, but I think that it is preferable to the flatter and filtered image (compare screencapture #19 with screencapture #3 from the Eureka Entertainment release). Color reproduction is decent, but during some of the daylight sequences it becomes obvious that color saturation could be better. Edge-enhancement is not a serious issue of concern. Also, there are no large debris, damage marks, warps, and stains. All in all, Criterion's presentation of Two-Lane Blacktop is clearly superior, as it boasts a more convincing organic look, but it is obvious to me that in certain areas there is still some room for improvement. This being said, I doubt a better release of Two-Lane Blacktop will emerge somewhere else so this should be the one to invest in.

And DVDBeaver (read the user comment he posted):
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews34/two-lane_blacktop.htm

There's no Criterion blu-ray shots at caps-a-holic yet, but I would have a very hard time calling the MoC a 'horrible, horrible' disc. I'd save that for upscales, but that's just me:

http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/comparison.php?art=full&cap1=6775&cap2=6791&cID=835&lossless=&image=0#auswahl
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I watched this again recently on TCM. I'm not aware if this might be covered in the extras-I don't think it is- but Esquire printed the script in its April 1971 issue (someone is trying to sell one now on ebay for $50). Laurie Bird was on the cover, and they pitched the film as their nomination for "movie of the year."

After having read the script, the movie was a big disappointment for me, and Esquire as much as agreed in a later issue. So fans of the film might be interested in tracking the magazine down and judging for themselves.

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The script was also included with the Criterion DVD release. It's missing from the BD, following their usual practice of cutting down their more elaborate booklets for the Blu editions. But someone looking for a (legal) copy of the script could probably get the DVD set at a lower price than they'd pay for the Esquire issue.
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So it looks like the MOC is about as good as it gets... I will keep mine for now then.
I love this movie.

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