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According to this review, the Blu-Ray has an outstanding audio soundtrack (and the video quality is excellent as well):

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Tw.../33661/#Review
Breaking Dawn features a mesmerizing DTS-HD MA 7.1 lossless soundtrack. Rare is the moment when the listener isn't effortlessly transported to the world of Breaking Dawn. The added surround channels are used to marvelous effect to paint one of the richest and most seamless soundtracks on the market. Indeed, "total immersion" is the name of the game here. Whether a driving rain that saturates the entire soundstage in the movie's opening moments, incredible woodland ambience at the scene of the wedding, the whirring of an old style movie projector heard in an early flashback scene, or the light chatter and music of the joyous wedding ceremony, there's never a moment where the audience feels anything less than completely enclosed within the movie's various environments. Heavier action effects are equally engaging. The track never sacrifices clarity for volume and power. Action scenes are seamlessly integrated as the listener is plopped in the middle of the chaos, whether a circular battle between Werewolves and Vampires late in the movie or a scene in the middle where "talking" werewolves communicate in a seamless 360-degree sound field, with the listener in the middle of the pack. Music is perfectly rich, the kind that's so clear and so precisely spaced that the speakers melt away in favor of an authentic, live-performance feel. No surprise, dialogue is steady and crisp and never lost under surrounding elements. This is a superb track from top to bottom, side to side, front to back, and any which way it plays. Twilight fans will be thrilled with the sense of immersion and attention to pinpoint detail that truly brings this movie to vivid sonic life. Unfortunately, to enjoy it in clear 1080p I have to watch it on my 24" computer monitor with 2.1-channel sound. I like these movies, actually - I rewatched #1-3 over a 3-day period a few weeks ago and my opinion of the weak ones got better. (I've never read the books, and likely never will.) It was released at Midnight Friday, and sells for ~$22.96 everywhere this week, though Wal-Mart had it marked down to $19.96 to beat everyone else. The "making of" documentary is interesting, esp. re: how they made Bella look during her pregnancy. I watched it via the pop-up window during the film versus as a separate documentary (it's nearly as long as the movie). Apparently there were nearly as many "effects" shots in this film as in Avatar. The wolves look better, as the technology has improved and they had more time in this movie to develop them. I hope they go back and improve the digital wolves in (especially) New Moon and Eclipse before re-releasing the set in expected "Director's Cut" versions after Breaking Dawn - Part 2 is released this Fall (there's talk of a Director's Cut for Breaking Dawn - Part 1 that includes the parts trimmed to keep it at PG-13).
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Watched last night.
AV fine.

The movie was suspenseful, but not much happens.
Without question it was allowed to run long in order to sell 2 tickets to one movie (ala Harry Potter).

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I enjoy the characters' emotions and behaviors in this film related to Bella's unborn child, and the conflict among the wolves, and thought the actors did a good job. Some feel it drags, but it doesn't for me.
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I enjoy the characters' emotions and behaviors in this film related to Bella's unborn child, and the conflict among the wolves, and thought the actors did a good job. Some feel it drags, but it doesn't for me.

It didn't really drag.
My complaint is the whole baby melodrama could have played out much more quickly.
Of course, if that was the case, then there wouldn't be a "need" for a Part 1 and Part 2.

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It didn't really drag.
My complaint is the whole baby melodrama could have played out much more quickly.
Of course, if that was the case, then there wouldn't be a "need" for a Part 1 and Part 2.

Hardcover page count:
Twilight 544 pages ~30 lines per page - Movie 122 minutes
New Moon 608 pages ~30 lines per page - Movie 130 minutes
Eclipse 640 pages ~29 lines per page Movie - 124 Minutes
Breaking Dawn 756 pages ~31 lines per page - Movie 117 minutes

Lines per page based on Amazon Look Inside!

Based on the above, it looks like Breaking Dawn really does need two parts compared to the others.
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Hardcover page count:
Twilight 544 pages ~30 lines per page - Movie 122 minutes
New Moon 608 pages ~30 lines per page - Movie 130 minutes
Eclipse 640 pages ~29 lines per page Movie - 124 Minutes
Breaking Dawn 756 pages ~31 lines per page - Movie 117 minutes

Lines per page based on Amazon Look Inside!

Based on the above, it looks like Breaking Dawn really does need two parts compared to the others.

OK, how about a 3 hour single movie?

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OK, how about a 3 hour single movie?

You can do that yourself when Breaking Dawn - Part 2 comes out. Just play the movies back-to-back at 1.5x speed (for a total time of about 2-2/3 hours). On my PS3, you can still hear the soundtrack and read the subtitles at 1.5x speed.
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You can do that yourself when Breaking Dawn - Part 2 comes out. Just play the movies back-to-back at 1.5x speed (for a total time of about 2-2/3 hours). On my PS3, you can still hear the soundtrack and read the subtitles at 1.5x speed.

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Me and the Mrs are looking forward to this one.

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This movie is not for me and I still don't know why all parts became the hits.
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This movie is not for me and I still don't know why all parts became the hits.

There not that bad butsu

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This movie is not for me and I still don't know why all parts became the hits.

Teenage girls and young women?

I had the "pleasure" of having to check on a local Wally World for one of their midnight events. A true zoo. 90+% women.
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There not that bad butsu

Frank.Admittedly this is the great disc for 7.1 DTS HD experience but never finish watching since I slept.
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Frank.Admittedly this is the great disc for 7.1 DTS HD experience but never finish watching since I slept.

Audiowise its not bad but regarding the movie itself I don't mind it.

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A true zoo. 90+% women.

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...This is the best movie of the series to date but that's not saying much. I'm glad they finally make Kristen Stewart look like an adult, and a sexy one at that. I agree with oink suspensful but not much happens. Yet the Michael Sheen cameo gives me hope for the last film, and I still can't stand Lautner. My daughter ordered me to buy it on saturday so that was inevitable PQ was really good and the sound is perfect. There are still laughable moments but I made it to the end credits.
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So does the young Miss Foster ever switch up her expression in this film to anything other than 'angsty'?

I think I'll just wait for the Rifftrax version. LOL
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So does the young Miss Foster ever switch up her expression in this film to anything other than 'angsty'?

Uhhh, not really.

Still....vampires and werewolves and Ashley Greene....mmmmmm....

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...This is the best movie of the series to date

That's good to hear looking forward in picking it up soon.

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To me this was the most interesting installment of the series, and really does not ask for a sequel since I think it presents a satisfying conclusion to the whole thing which does not require a further installment.

I know there is a lot of hate towards the franchise and I can't say I am a fan of the source material, but I think the filmmakers have done an admirable job throughout of creating an experience that works at multiple levels. As an example, almost every scene with Billy Burke (aka Bella's father) in every film seems to be an extended wink at the audience.

One way to look at Breaking Dawn is to consider for a moment that vampires and werewolves don't actually exist in the narrative other than to serve as metaphor and that everyone is a "normal" person. The unexplored possibilities of physical intimacy, marriage and pregnancy contain enough anxiety, horror, shame and fear to haunt the mind of any adolescent. This might not be the Eraserhead for Gen Y, but it's not a bad try.


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I watched this last night fantastic. Me and the wife enjoyed it very much. now were looking forward to part 2.

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I watched this last night fantastic. Me and the wife enjoyed it very much. now were looking forward to part 2.

Oh no... My wife and I watched it and thought it a 2 hour waste / money grab for the finale.

It is the strangest love triangle and alliance. Bella is a complete head case that over-thinks every aspect of her life... and for the two of us, she makes the series painful to watch.

I did think rthe video was lucy with color and the soundtrack pretty potent for a girls movie!


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