Originally Posted by GoCaboNow
As fun as the bass is, I was really impressed by the surround action in this and mentioned so in the audio thread. But there are so many variables to audio in the home environment. (Heck, even commercial theaters can be a mixed bag
) But between gear, the room/treatments, particular eq, sound isolation, ie can you play it LOUD without waking the baby or annoying someone and your own particular taste or bias etc. Why the HECK am I even interested what someone else thinks with all these variables?
But it is still interesting to hear other's take on various audio performance.
I think you are right though in maybe there is common ground with knowledge that someone is flat to a certain hz or hot below that. I know folks that are so proud of their shiny mains (12 layers of hand rubbed oil over some wood that is now extinct or something
) and are irked when the surrounds seem more important than the mains in many movies, so when we talk, they score a movie higher based on the performance of the mains over the surrounds and .1. That's their bias and good for them. In my dedicated setup the surrounds and .1 are really impactful in the room. My mains are certainly adequate but sterling content to the mains is expected. Exhilerating action from the surrounds and .1 are the wild card to separate a movie track for me.
You are right. I usually dont feel the need to debate a difference of opinion when it comes to audio for the reasons you mention, mainly the sheer amount of variables from one setup/person to another. In this case though considering how far apart his score is from not only my own opinion, but the majority and along with how he worded his thoughts, I felt this would be a good one to discuss. Here is the last paragraph of the audio portion of GRG review......Short of bass hounds who thump music so loud in their cars they can’t even keep their trunks closed, this isn’t going to appeal to many people. It’s not fun to listen too because you can’t appreciate the wealth of sound being projected elsewhere. The soundstage is probably superb if it could be heard. The balance is off track, off course, and off kilter. Those minor moments where the film is sedated enough to produce something else are a reprieve. Then, it’s broken down because it’s time for more bass. Awful.
SO basically ALL of us who loved the audio on this one are "bass hounds who thump music so loud in their cars they cant even keep their trunks closed".....lol
My car stereo is so weak it barely passes as such, lol.
"The soundstage is probably superb if it could be heard"...........hhmmmmm.....came through loud and clear in my room with one of the better soundstages I have experienced on blu ray disc with excellent dynamics, awesome discrete effects, great panning, wide spread stage across front/rear, etc........I felt I was right in the middle of the action.
Whatever though. It is all just opinion and like you say there are so many factors/variables from one setup to another it is not worth arguing about, BUT this review just irked me a bit since it talks down to any reader who actually liked the mix. It is probably written for reaction though, so in that sense it accomplished its goal with me!
A 2/5 is a ridiculous score though IMHO even with difference of opinion taken into consideration. Just my opinion though and some wont like it which is fine.