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CONFIRMED: Remastered from OCN

Pre-order is up. Only $10.49

Lionsgate FilmsThis summer, Lionsgate Home Entertainment will release a new "Mind-Bending Edition" of Total Recall in order to coincide with the upcoming theatrical remake. Director Paul Verhoeven's graphically violent and darkly funny adaptation of the Philip K. Dick short story "We Can Remember It for You Wholesale" stars Arnold Schwarzenegger (The Terminator) as Doug Quaid, an average guy who is deeply unsatisfied with his normal life.

Despite having a good job and a loving wife (Sharon Stone, Basic Instinct), Quaid goes through his days dreaming of grand adventures, and he gets his chance to experience such desires when he visits Rekall, a corporation that specializes in custom memory implants.

However, during his programming session, something goes wrong, and Quaid finds himself launched into a world of intergalactic espionage, a world where Quaid can trust no one, where he alone can unite a rebel force against the villainous developer Cohaagen (Ronny Cox, RoboCop), and where all the answers seem to lie with an ancient Martian civilization.

While Lionsgate has yet to detail the technical specifications for the Mind-Bending Edition, the Blu-ray boasts a new, director-supervised transfer - taken from the original negative - as well as supplementary materials that include:

Commentary with Arnold Schwarzenegger and Paul Verhoeven
Interview with Paul Verhoeven
Behind-the-scenes featurettes:
- Models and Skeletons: The Special Effects of Total Recall
- Imagining Total Recall
Photo gallery
Theatrical trailer

Total Recall: The Mind-Bending Edition streets on July 31st.

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=8692
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So, should we start taking bets as to whether this will really be remastered or changed in any way? Can they just repackage the old disc and call it a "special edition"?
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I'll be holding on to my UK copy until I see the evidence.

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I really hope there is a significant upgrade in the a/v dept. The original blu-ray is distractingly bad on those counts.
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This sounds EXACTLY like the recent "remastered" disc from the UK, including only one featurette. So stupid.

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I hope it is more inline with how Stargate was remastered, that looks excellent versus the blown out original. I do not understand the love for the DNR contrasted boosted UK version.

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This sounds EXACTLY like the recent "remastered" disc from the UK, including only one featurette. So stupid.

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i hope it is more inline with how stargate was remastered, that looks excellent versus the blown out original. I do not understand the love for the dnr contrasted boosted uk version.

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I hope so.
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Hopefully it's better than the UK edition... If so, I think I will have owned this movie 5 times...

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I hope it's better too but currently the UK version is less of a mess than the US release. I believe there are some caps in a thread somewhere, probably with the T2 comparisons as well.

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I would be shocked if this is a new scan....my guess is it's the UK version or a variation of it (i.e., small changes in contrast, color, etc.).

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I hope it's better too but currently the UK version is less of a mess than the US release. I believe there are some caps in a thread somewhere, probably with the T2 comparisons as well.

My main gripe with the UK version are the scenes with Mars -- they seem to be overly red.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1039664

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Good news! I almost bought the old out of impatience last week. Hope this new one has a nice new transfer that isn't DNR city.

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There is an audio sync issue with the UK version as well; it becomes quite distracting at about the halfway point of the film onwards.

There's an odd green tint to the film as well. The UK version is a mess also.
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As of this point neither release is that good.
UK wins because of lossless audio, aside from that both are pretty hard to live with.

The proper setting for sharpness is always0.
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Me I would love to the uncut Film.
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Well, this is pretty much what I was expecting.

Lionsgate put out the remastered Stargate blu-ray (with both cuts) to capitalize on MGM's premiere of Stargate Universe. Luckily for Lionsgate, it was also the 15th anniversary.

Now they're doing the same thing with Total Recall and Sony's remake.

Only thing is, we don't know whether this will be a fresh transfer or just the old one.
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Where does the Aussie Total Recall SE (out for some time now) fit into the scheme of things?

http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/dvd/d...blu-ray/528035

It's region ABC and has a 23m "Models & Skeletons" extra.
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^ Steer clear. It's got the extra featurette but the film itself has some DNR applied to it. The first edition is the better one to get with regards to picture quality.
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I'm pretty happy with the UK version, but it can be improved as well. The biggest problem with the UK one is the smearing that happens when the Mars environment is in the background of the actors. Heavy DNR is applied in those scenes and it is distracting and looks bad. Also, as another member has mentioned, the red Mars color is a little too red and needs to be dialed down a bit. I really hope Lionsgate makes a new fresh remaster of the film with no DNR or EE. Fingers crossed.
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Good luck with that, it'll be the same as the newer Euro/Australian release.

To be clear: The newer disc does not have more DNR/EE. It's there for all the world to see on the UK BD and even the HD DVD. The difference, is that the VC-1 encoding gave the impression of grain, which was actually mostly video noise. The newer AVC encoding from the same master might not have the same compression anomalies, but it shows up the other problems with the master, that were already there.

I'll say this, though. It's far from unwatchable.
I have the Australian disc, which on the country selection screen, has a 'USA' option, which when selected, takes you to a Lionsgate logo and then the main menu.

Check out this HD DVD shot. That ain't grain:
http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...ss=0#vergleich
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you'd think if some little troll is going to post porn they could at least post some good porn

anyway i just want to ditch my UK HD DVD
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you'd think if some little troll is going to post porn they could at least post some good porn

That would asume that the poster has a functional brain. Times like this the ignore button is a bleasing.

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new, director-supervised transfer - taken from the original negative

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Commentary with Arnold Schwarzenegger and Paul Verhoeven
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I told ya it was coming! I think I've only watched my Total Recall Blu-Ray once, it was that bad.
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I hope it is more inline with how Stargate was remastered, that looks excellent versus the blown out original. I do not understand the love for the DNR contrasted boosted UK version.

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Can you please post a link to a comparison of the preferred and the "remastered" version?
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My bad missed the other thread
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Can you please post a link to a comparison of the preferred and the "remastered" version?

If you are referring to Stargate check these out. Although not full resolution still illustrative of the contrast differences.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post17441895

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post21789897

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The UK is getting this new transfer as well, before it hits stateside, though it's going to be a DVD/Blu-Ray/Digital Copy package with a 50GB disc vs the 25GB disc we get in the states.
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