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Pathetic >>>

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An ICE spokesman tells me that the two screens will "come up after the previews, once you hit the main movie/play button on the DVD. At which point the movie rating comes up, followed by the IPR Center screen shot for 10 secs and then the FBI/HSI anti-piracy warning for 10 secs as well. Neither can be skipped/fast forwarded through."

The idea isn't to deter current pirates, apparently (the new scheme requires all legal purchasers to sit through 20 seconds of warnings each time they pop in a film, but will be totally absent from pirated downloads and bootlegs). It's to educate everyone else. As ICE Director John Morton announced in a statement yesterday, "Law enforcement must continue to expand how it combats criminal activity; public awareness and education are a critical part of that effort."

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Not unskippable once stripped out.

I'm so sick of this dumb game.
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This is confirmed on the new Underworld: Awakening blu-ray released last Tuesday.

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"Public Awareness" and "Education." If after more than two decades of this enlightenment you still don't know the illegalities involved then you are new to planet earth.

The people it is aimed will ignore it anyways and the rest of us are unnecessarily inconvenienced. Such is wisdom of myopic law inforcement.

Put this stuff somewhere on the disc if you have to by law but don't force it on us with every viewing. Same goes for previews (theater and video related). But nobody listens to the public.

What the heck, what's another near 1/2 minute with BD load times still an issue (at least in my view).
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Many blu-ray players have a "quick start" feature. With these new unskippable warnings, what's the point? Might as well start the disc, go pop some corn, make a phone call, put in some laundry, write your next novel, then come back and enjoy the movie.
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There's something wrong when a pirated movie is a *better* product than a commercial, store-bought movie.
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There's something wrong when a pirated movie is a *better* product than a commercial, store-bought movie.

I'm actually more annoyed by unskippable, endless previews and trailers (even if we can fast-forward them) than anti-piracy warnings...
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This is confirmed on the new Underworld: Awakening blu-ray released last Tuesday.

True. Just experienced it last night. Watched the 3D trailers, then bam some new warning screen before the movie starts.

All this stuff does is piss me off. Punish everyone for the sins of a few.

They even have anti-pirating commerials in the theatres too. Sure, target the folks paying for your product. That makes total sense.
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This is why I use anydvd. What a bunch of clowns.
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Sure, target the folks paying for your product. That makes total sense.

Goes hand-in-hand with the, "Wow! Check out how awesome Blu-ray is!" trailers... on Blu-ray discs.

I don't feel special...
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What's more curious... is why this never happened with CDs. Think about it. How come they never stuck something on the start of a CD that you had to listen to before you could play any other tracks on the CD for that session?

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I always find it funny that in order to help "promote" their product with reviews for stuff they send me, I'm forced to break the copy protection because I can't take screen shots otherwise.

God forbid someone takes a dozen images of a two hour film.

(Note: I know why the screen shot issue to came to pass, but it's ridiculous)
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Ridiculous. AnyDVD to the rescue I suppose.
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Whee, reminds me of PC games where by and large the pirated copy was the less annoying of the choices between pirated and commercial release...

Why not just have the cashier at Best Buy/Wal*Mart/Target or the UPS/USPS/FedEx delivery guy slap me in the face and read me a rant on the troubles of media piracy before letting me buy/receive the movie/CD?

Fight mediocrity: Insist on BD50 discs for all movies longer than 100 minutes, optimized video encodes that fully utilize the available space, lossless audio track, and new masters for catalog titles!
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This whole thing reminds me of the "war on drugs" issue, and we know how great that been working out.It just never seems to amaze me how studios are misguided.

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They should make BD Live mandatory and have adds play in the black bars of letterbox movies.
That would teach us a good lesson.

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Why not just have the cashier at Best Buy/Wal*Mart/Target or the UPS/USPS/FedEx delivery guy slap me in the face and read me a rant on the troubles of media piracy before letting me buy/receive the movie/CD?

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They should make BD Live mandatory and have adds play in the black bars of letterbox movies.
That would teach us a good lesson.

Seriously, don't give them ideas.
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Yep, this is why I rip my purchased Blu Rays anymore. Once you start ripping out all the BS, you can't go back.
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Funny

No subwoofer I've heard has been able to produce the bass I've experienced in the Corps!

Must..stop...buying...every bluray release...
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Yep, this is why I rip my purchased Blu Rays anymore. Once you start ripping out all the BS, you can't go back.

Not sure what I'd do without MakeMKV. Brilliant.
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Seriously, don't give them ideas.

I'd rather have the face slapping/rant than have to hear it every time the disc loads. :P Is their theory that we might forget that making copies is illegal and decide to do it just because we can if we're not constantly reminded?

Fight mediocrity: Insist on BD50 discs for all movies longer than 100 minutes, optimized video encodes that fully utilize the available space, lossless audio track, and new masters for catalog titles!
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Is their theory that we might forget that making copies is illegal and decide to do it just because we can if we're not constantly reminded?

Well, you do know that the illiterate (sadly ignorant of the printed warnings) are the only people who smoke cigarettes, right?

I don't feel special...
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This is infuriating. With DVD's it was relatively easy to show off my system to a friend and slap a half dozen titles in quickly for a scene on each film.

With Blu Ray, it is a nightmare. Cannot be done. So this means I will be forced to purchase FEWER releases and buy a hacked Blu Ray player that will not force me to watch such crap.

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This is infuriating. With DVD's it was relatively easy to show off my system to a friend and slap a half dozen titles in quickly for a scene on each film.

With Blu Ray, it is a nightmare. Cannot be done. So this means I will be forced to purchase FEWER releases and buy a hacked Blu Ray player that will not force me to watch such crap.

To make matters worse, if the BD has Java as most do, you can't use the resume feature thats found on select BD players
I agree with your point about crap like this possibly translating into fewer sales. Currently I purchase all my BD discs for a couple reasons, one is I don't have a BD drive in my PC, two is I don't have a program to rip BDs(only DVDs). If it gets to the point that I'll have to in excess of a minute to just get the movie going it will probably prod me into taking care of point one and two, then it will be off to Redbox or even NF and I won't look back Oh and those two unskippable warnings won't deter me one bit
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Next they will want to strap electrodes to our privates to educate us. I am more inclined to believe it's revenge for the police state piracy laws they pushed being rejected (except in Canada).
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**** you, Blu-ray!
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They need to catch one of these guys in a public forum, and just flat-out ask him "Why is it that paying customers are punished by blah blah BS, when it's well known that the pirates never see it?"

And then ask the audience if there's a single person in the crowd who appreciates those messages or has "learned" anything from them.

They seem to occasionally get into conversations with these people, and yet the press always manages to avoid asking the questions that their audience actually wants them to ask.

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I watched the BR of "The Woman In Black" this week and it does have the two (technically 3) "forced" warnings preceding the movie. I'm reminded of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wVksuhqjlE
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There's something wrong when a pirated movie is a *better* product than a commercial, store-bought movie.

Nailed it.

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**** you, Blu-ray!

Nailed it even better.

P.S. The MPAA's playbook -- much like the RIAA's -- is a case study in how not to respond to the broad issue of content theft and piracy. They seem hellbent on shooting themselves in the foot over and over until they're completely lame.
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"Unskippable Warnings"...or, as I like to call them: My bathroom break before the movie starts.
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