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Have you tried an older disc?
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Have you tried an older disc?

The only discs I've had trouble with that have TrueHD are seasons 1 and 2 of Walking Dead, Brave, Nemo, and now The Assassins. Every other TrueHD disc is fine.
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I have had no issues with both Deads or Brave personally, this one is weird
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I watched the 3D version of Finding Nemo tonight. No audio dropouts or any other problems. There is a choice of 5.1 or 7.1 Dolby TrueHD surround tracks in the disc's setup menu - I used the 7.1 version. No problems bitstreaming from a Panasonic 310 Blu-ray player into a Denon 4311 receiver.

It's odd that this disc is causing problems for others.
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Ok, something screwier than hell is going on with Dolby TrueHD lately. After Brave and Nemo, I received The Assassins today from my dealer in Hong Kong (it's a 2012 Chinese movie). Has Dolby TrueHD 5.1 audio. Same problems. Dropouts here and there. Never had issues with TrueHD until recently. Nothing in my setup has changed (other than adding the Oppo 103 and the Samsung 75" tv).

Have you reported the problem to OPPO? Could be a firmware issue.

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I have watched this movie three times now and have not had any dropouts, same with Brave. I am bitstreaming form a Oppo 83 to an Onkyo SR707, no where near the latest tech.
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Just got done.......amazing! All around mind blower. Darla tapping the glass....... eek.gif
I had no dropouts on this viewing. I did have a drop on Brave. I bitstreamed both titles.
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I watched the 3D version of Finding Nemo tonight. No audio dropouts or any other problems. There is a choice of 5.1 or 7.1 Dolby TrueHD surround tracks in the disc's setup menu - I used the 7.1 version. No problems bitstreaming from a Panasonic 310 Blu-ray player into a Denon 4311 receiver.
It's odd that this disc is causing problems for others.

Watched it again last night with my son. I confirmed my settings, Oppo 83 bitsreamed 7.1 to my Mitsubishi HC6500 projector via my Onkyo TX-SR707, detailed in the Oppo 83 thread here. No dropouts were observed like the others I quoted. I know what a dropout is as I experienced them with bitsreaming Star Wars Ep. II when I was using a Denon AVR790. With the Onkyo they went away and like that issue I believe this one is more related to how your particular AVR handles the decoding. Just my 2 cents.

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Have you reported the problem to OPPO? Could be a firmware issue.

I will, but it also happens on my Panasonic and Sony player.

I'll shoot Marantz an email as well.

Odd that with all the TrueHD discs I have, only the latest (starting with Walking Dead), have this issue. confused.gif
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I have seen in the Oppo threads that they are aware of the issue.

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I will, but it also happens on my Panasonic and Sony player.
I'll shoot Marantz an email as well.
Odd that with all the TrueHD discs I have, only the latest (starting with Walking Dead), have this issue. confused.gif

Are all of the players going to the same avr or pre/pro?

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Yes, a Marantz AV7005.
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Yes, a Marantz AV7005.

I'm no expert but that tells me that this might be an AVR issue like Star Wars when the firmware updates were for receivers not the players.

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I'm no expert but that tells me that this might be an AVR issue like Star Wars.

Sounds like it to me, but one wonders why it has just started with the recent releases? I have older TrueHD discs that play without the problem. Sounds like something is different with these discs that the AVR can't handle.

Going to do some cleaning of my setup this weekend. No longer need all 4 players in the setup so I'll remove the Sony and Panasonic, leaving me with the Oppo 83 and 103. I'll rewire the 83 to 7.1 analogs and see if that works better for these problematic discs.
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I run a Denon as well and my first drop out experience, though at a minimum, was with the Star Wars release. I don't have Nemo yet but I'm pretty anxious to see what happens. However, now that I think about it, since the initial dropout issues on Star Wars I've had to switch from bitstreaming because the Denon wasn't recognizing the encoding at all but rather 5.1DD I believe. This is frustrating for consumers.
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No issues on my PCs, BH200, or playback from my server.

The combination of Dolby True-HD and seamless branching along with the slow random access time of Blu-ray in general, it wouldn't surprise me if this was the result. The slow access time of jumping to different sectors of the disc, even one jump slightly longer than is allowed by the firmware for a valid stream, could result in a drop out. Not all players are created equal, not even on the same assembly line, and there's lots of branching on the Nemo disc.

Try ripping the disc to your computer (if you have a BD drive) using MakeMKV and see if you experience playback issues. At the very least you could rule out the disc. (I highly doubt it's the disc)
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No dropouts here; Oppo BDP-83 bitstreamed to an old Onkyo TX-SR705. I'm only using 5.1 though.

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Just watched the US edition of 'Finding Nemo' 5 disc edition and whilst watching the 2D version - using LPCM via hdmi from an Oppo BDP-93 into a Yamaha RX-A2010 experienced audio dropouts (during 'The first Day of School' scene) identical to the ones heard on the 'Brave' BD a few weeks back (using bitstream over hdmi that time) and which were corrected using LPCM.

Going to try again with bitstream optical out and see if that is ok.
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Just watched the US edition of 'Finding Nemo' 5 disc edition and whilst watching the 2D version - using LPCM via hdmi from an Oppo BDP-93 into a Yamaha RX-A2010 experienced audio dropouts (during 'The first Day of School' scene) identical to the ones heard on the 'Brave' BD a few weeks back (using bitstream over hdmi that time) and which were corrected using LPCM.
Going to try again with bitstream optical out and see if that is ok.

That's one of places where it branches from one M2TS file to another. But the dropouts are random enough that attempts to compare one setup to another might yield the same results as just playing the same setup over and over. IOW, it won't happen every time regardless of setup.
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Denon 1611 and Panasonic 110 worked fine.

This movie looked and sounded amazing.
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Denon 3310 and Panny BD85. No dropouts for me. Agreed, it's amazing looking and sounding. Pixar does it again!
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also no dropouts for me.....PS3-Integra DHC-40.1 - JVC RS20 wink.gif Looked and sounded great!

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I get audio dropout issues when bitstreaming on my Onkyo TX-SR805 and Sony BDP BX57. I exchanged it for another copy of the movie and still have audio issues. I will try switching to LPCM to see if that fixes it.
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I get audio dropout issues when bitstreaming on my Onkyo TX-SR805 and Sony BDP BX57. I exchanged it for another copy of the movie and still have audio issues. I will try switching to LPCM to see if that fixes it.
I believe the issue has come up before regarding some of the Onkyos of that year.
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also no dropouts for me.....PS3-Integra DHC-40.1 - JVC RS20 wink.gif Looked and sounded great!

Also wanted to add that I have a Darblet in the chain, right after the preamp.....still no dropouts. Will try Brave soon to see if I still have success.....

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Oppo 83 & bitstreaming to a Yamaha - tons of dropouts, more than Brave but most of extremely short duration mad.gif

Will have to try having the Oppo do the decoding.

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Oppo 83 & bitstreaming to a Yamaha - tons of dropouts, more than Brave but most of extremely short duration mad.gif
Will have to dry having the Oppo do the decoding.

I tried the player decoding option with my Oppo 93 and Yamaha RX-A2010 - didn't make any difference unlike when the same thing happened with Brave (which did)
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Ok, I want to rent this. Convinced their is something going on with TrueHD bitstreaming!

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Watched it last night (3D Version) without a single problem. LG 3D Blu Ray player to Pioneer Elite Receiver. smile.gif
Wonderful job by Disney/Pixar as usual...
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I also watched this in the past few days -- no audio problems at all (Panasonic player, Onkyo receiver). Reference pic and sound, a perfect BD.
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I've played both "Brave" & "Finding Nemo" (2D, USA) in the last few days. Both played perfectly using the Dolby TrueHD audio track bitstreamed in my system (Sony BDP-S1000ES to Yamaha RX-V3900). Absolutely no audio dropouts of any kind. I did notice that regardless of whether you choose 7.1 or 5.1 audio via the disc menu, it feeds 7.1 TrueHD to my receiver.
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Just watched this and had several dropouts too..

I am using:
Denon 4520
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JVC RS-40

After watching I tried several other discs to rule out the issue being my Denon. One was a True HD 5.1 disc in Dark Knight. Zero dropouts in bas heavy scenes.

Wonder if it is an issue with 7.1 tracks or just a random Disney thing.

Any thoughts?
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