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In-depth Reflections on Titanic exploration of the film with James Cameron
Titanic: The Final Word documentary produced by National Geographic with James Cameron that brings the world's leading RMS Titanic experts together to discuss why and how the ship sank
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- Director James Cameron
- Selected cast and crew members
- Don Lynch and Ken Marshall
Sixty behind-the-scenes featurettes
Featurette on the visual effects
Thirty deleted scenes with optional James Cameron commentary
Titanic crew video $200,000,001: A Ship's Odyssey
Deep dive presentation narrated by James Cameron
Constuction timelapse
Videomatics
Still galleries:
- Over 2,000 archival photographs
- James Cameron's Titanic scriptment
- Storyboard sequences
- Production artwork
- Ken Marshall's painting gallery
- "By the Numbers"
- Bibliography
Titanic parodies:
- MTV's 1998 Movie Awards skit
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- Titanic in 30 Seconds
Celine Dion's "My Heart Will Go On" music video
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Awesome! Been waiting for this one.

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If it's a really long movie like the LOTR Extended Cuts, two discs would be better than one or the PQ would suffer.

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The Blu-ray format has PLENTY of capacity and bandwidth for a +3hr movie, imho.

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The Blu-ray format has PLENTY of capacity and bandwidth for a +3hr movie, imho.

Actually the 3D BD of Titanic is going to be a "*flipper" and spread across 2 discs. Wonder where the break will be? Also the 3D will be open matte 1.78 (not pan & scan) with more info available. Wonder if any CGI had to be redone to fill the frames?

*not a true flipper of course but you must change discs.
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Also the 3D will be open matte 1.78 (not pan & scan) with more info available. Wonder if any CGI had to be redone to fill the frames?
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JC: On the re-release, we released Titanic also in IMAX, the digital IMAX format, in 2D and in 3D, and we did that in 1.78:1 aspect ratio - this is kind of geeking out for neophiles now. But the film was originally released in a CinemaScope ratio - 2.35:1 ratio. So in the new release, the DVD and the standard Blu-ray and the 2D Blu-ray is 2.35, and the 3D Blu-ray is in 17:8 or 16:9, which means that it'll fill the HD monitor. And that's not cropped, that's actually added material. And in the process of remastering the film, we had to go back and do a lot of paint work to remove dollies and microphones and things like that, that were in view just outside of the scope area.

This is more of the videophile geek fest, but the film was originally shot with Super 35 format, which meant that there was always more frame available than what we released. So we've gone back to that and we've cleaned it up and so it actually plays beautifully in 3D in the 16:9 format, I think, so it's a slightly different experience.

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I would like this one.

Shame they couldn't get it out for the 100th anniversary of the sinking. If the extras are on a separate disk, then the PQ may well be OK on the BD. If the disc is stuffed with all the extras as well, then you have to wonder if the PQ/SQ will suffer any.

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JC: On the re-release, we released Titanic also in IMAX, the digital IMAX format, in 2D and in 3D, and we did that in 1.78:1 aspect ratio - this is kind of geeking out for neophiles now. But the film was originally released in a CinemaScope ratio - 2.35:1 ratio. So in the new release, the DVD and the standard Blu-ray and the 2D Blu-ray is 2.35, and the 3D Blu-ray is in 17:8 or 16:9, which means that it'll fill the HD monitor. And that's not cropped, that's actually added material. And in the process of remastering the film, we had to go back and do a lot of paint work to remove dollies and microphones and things like that, that were in view just outside of the scope area.

Cool, I did not know that. I'm still not going to buy it (I don't think it's a very good movie), but that's neat to be able to watch it both ways without losing anything.
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I'm still "3D-challeged" - while I like the orginal 2.35, that's too bad I would have liked to see the new AR...
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I'm still "3D-challeged" - while I like the orginal 2.35, that's too bad I would have liked to see the new AR...

In theory, you should be able to play the 3-D disc in your 2-D player and it will play in 2-D. I'm not sure if that is a requirement of all 3-D BDs or if it's player-specific. Honestly, I have a lot of 3-D BDs, but I haven't tried any of them in my 2-D player - I just play the 2-D discs. I'll have to try it tonight and see for myself.
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Still no feature length documentary that was obviously meant to be on disc 3 of the R2 DVD?

Will wait for the Fox specs.
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I'm still "3D-challeged" - while I like the orginal 2.35, that's too bad I would have liked to see the new AR...

If you know how (and have the software) you can rip your (bought) BD using the left eye only and get a 2D version.
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In theory, you should be able to play the 3-D disc in your 2-D player and it will play in 2-D. I'm not sure if that is a requirement of all 3-D BDs or if it's player-specific. Honestly, I have a lot of 3-D BDs, but I haven't tried any of them in my 2-D player - I just play the 2-D discs. I'll have to try it tonight and see for myself.

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If you know how (and have the software) you can rip your (bought) BD using the left eye only and get a 2D version.

Interesting! @William no I never tried that yet. But if it does play in 2D then I'm happy.

Here's what happens when I put the Dark Of The Moon 3D disc in my player: "This Blu-ray 3D disc requires a compatible 3D HDTV and Blu-ray 3D player or a Blu-ray player that has been upgraded with the necessary firmware to allow 3D film playback. 2D playback is not available via this disc." I tried with The Three Musketeers as well, it doesn't work either. But I think I saw on the Underworld Awakening box that the 3D disc DOES WORK in a 2D player. I bought the 2D version so I can't verify. Back to Titanic, I'll still get the 3D/2D combo but I'm really not sure the 3D version will play in a 2D player. I may have to rely on the left eye trick then if I have to tools for it.
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Here's what happens when I put the Dark Of The Moon 3D disc in my player: "This Blu-ray 3D disc requires a compatible 3D HDTV and Blu-ray 3D player or a Blu-ray player that has been upgraded with the necessary firmware to allow 3D film playback. 2D playback is not available via this disc." I tried with The Three Musketeers as well, it doesn't work either. But I think I saw on the Underworld Awakening box that the 3D disc DOES WORK in a 2D player. I bought the 2D version so I can't verify. Back to Titanic, I'll still get the 3D/2D combo but I'm really not sure the 3D version will play in a 2D player. I may have to rely on the left eye trick then if I have to tools for it.

Pretty much all 3D only discs display this message. Disney, Paramount, etc.

I get around this easily, even though I have a now old-fashioned Sony XBR4: I put it in my HTPC, fire up PowerDVD 12 Ultra, and play it in either 2D or 3D anaglyph. PowerDVD will convert any 3D disc to the format of your choosing.
My Geforce 570GTX supports HD codec bitstreaming so it's a great alternative until I upgrade the set. Personally I'm waiting until they get the whole 3D standards thing sorted out on the display side (common glasses? glasses free? etc).

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All 3D discs are technically capable of being played back as 2D as the player just accesses the left eye view: it's just that the authors deny 2D playback capability on certain discs.

There may be good reason to prevent 2D playback of 3D discs, as the 3D may be enhanced to boost brightness etc, to compensate for that lost in 3D playback.

I understand that using AnyDVD HD when ripping discs to ISO (maybe with Speed Menu enabled) can remove this block.

It helps to have an Oppo 93/95, with ISO capability intact, for playback.
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Awesome! Been waiting for this one.



HD video + DTS-MA + no disc switching.

+1 i can't wait to watch this.

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All 3D discs are technically capable of being played back as 2D as the player just accesses the left eye view: it's just that the authors deny 2D playback capability on certain discs.
There may be good reason to prevent 2D playback of 3D discs, as the 3D may be enhanced to boost brightness etc, to compensate for that lost in 3D playback.
I understand that using AnyDVD HD when ripping discs to ISO (maybe with Speed Menu enabled) can remove this block.
It helps to have an Oppo 93/95, with ISO capability intact, for playback.

Ian is correct that ALL 3-D Blurays could (and be default should) be totally 2-D compatible if those authoring the disc allow it. While there sometimes can be some minor changes with the 3-D version (floating windows, contrast and/or gamma changes etc) my guess is the studios don't want consumers buying the multi-disc 3-D blu version, and be able to easily turn around and sell off their brand new and somwhat redundnt 2-D Bluray version which typically has the extra features. Given the Titanic 3-D bluray in this case will have additional content that could be of value to the 2-D viewer (the 1.78:1 AR), hopefully they will allow for playback with 2-D gear.
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Looks like this has leaked and is all over the net like a rash, so expect to get lots of impressions soon from people
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Can't wait to hear some early moaning over internet screenshots. rolleyes.gif

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From the screenshots I've seen it looks much like the HD trailer for the theatrical 3D release. Which is a good thing.

I wonder if Fox (or is it Paramount?) has made two masters, one that's been "uprezzed and degrained" as James Cameron puts it, and one without? Seems to have a pretty healthy amount of grain, more than I saw in IMAX, and it doesn't make much sense that they'd degrain it and then re-grain it with about as much grain as you'd find on a super35 show from the 90s...
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Its rather teal from the shots I saw
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So you won't be getting it, for sure. wink.giftongue.gif

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Me? I cannot stand even one second of the movie, let alone three hours of it.
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This movie is a masterpiece.
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Its rather teal from the shots I saw
IIRC, there was a lot of "teal" originally.

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hm... I was pretty happy with the shots I saw on my monitor at work...
On my nice display, their texture appears rather digital looking. Hope these are just bad captures I'm looking at.
Colors look nice though, not sure where people see teal.
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No, I won't get it till I'm not single.
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On my nice display, their texture appears rather digital looking.
IIRC (and I probably don't), wasn't that the case with the green screen stuff?
It seems to me, the CG was rather obvious (although very, very good for the time).

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Me? I cannot stand even one second of the movie, let alone three hours of it.

Why? The only thing I can't stand is this damn song and the pseudo "Enya effect" of the score, but the movie is impeccable, certainly a masterpiece in the real sense of the word.

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So even 15 years later there are still people who think Titanic is a "chick flick"?

It's one of those rare instances where I truly I can't wait for my copy to arrive... It's been a while since I've seen it I'm sure it'll be a real treat. I even went for the giant box set, I'm a lost cause!
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I never liked it, it's badly acted over hyped melodramatic rubbish with one dimensional cookie cutter characters that go nowhere and have nothing interesting to say. imho

The only good thing to come out of it
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