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High Def Disc News has got more of whatever details there are currently. I'm excited for this one as Disney has done an excellent job with most of their live-action catalog titles.

Perhaps not indicative of the coming US release, here are screenshot comparisons between the German DVD and German Blu-ray released two years ago:

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Disney are getting worse and cheap if you ask me, this needs the original directors cut but it will only have a trailer
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I honestly don't see Disney besting the German disc. They're not exactly blowing anyone's skirt up, with their catalogue releases.
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Really? "Tron" and "Rocketeer" are pretty damn good. "Dead Poets Society" is solid. I haven't seen any other pre-2000 titles yet. I've heard some unflattering things about Father of the Bride, however...

Is there a director's cut of Dredd or are you just wishfully posting?
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Really? "Tron" and "Rocketeer" are pretty damn good. "Dead Poets Society" is solid. I haven't seen any other pre-2000 titles yet. I've heard some unflattering things about Father of the Bride, however...
Is there a director's cut of Dredd or are you just wishfully posting?
Rocketeer was their last really good disc, color of money is all kinds of wrong.
Danny Cannon got screwed on Dredd big time, what we saw is far from his final cut.
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I honestly don't see Disney besting the German disc.

This.
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Really? "Tron" and "Rocketeer" are pretty damn good. "Dead Poets Society" is solid. I haven't seen any other pre-2000 titles yet. I've heard some unflattering things about Father of the Bride, however...

Disney's relatively recent Good Morning Vietnam looks unflattering in caps.
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Heh. "Unflattering" is putting it mildly, the caps of GMV look bloody awful.
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Finally took a look at this BD.

The reports don't exaggerate...this has stunningly good AV.

Sadly, the movie itself is not very good.
The decision to use a comic relief guy (Schneider) as a sidekick instead of the romantic angle (Diane Lane) destroys the movie.
Playing it straight-up with Sly and Lane on the lam COULD have made this film work.
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It was planned as an R rated film, then the suits forced it into a PG-13 category and it was re-written five times (or more). Even while shooting the studio was screwing with it. Then the MPAA kept slapping it with an R, no matter how much they cut out. So it was nothing but a big giant bag of compromises. Much like KING ARTHUR, it was a case of the suits dreaming of money bags and forcing the filmmakers to squeeze it into that family friendly category. Never mind that the story and characters were anything but family viewing.

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e name="Matt_Stevens" url="/t/1416276/judge-dredd-1995-us-september-18th#post_22585830"]It was planned as an R rated film, then the suits forced it into a PG-13 category and it was re-written five times (or more). Even while shooting the studio was screwing with it. Then the MPAA kept slapping it with an R, no matter how much they cut out. So it was nothing but a big giant bag of compromises. Much like KING ARTHUR, it was a case of the suits dreaming of money bags and forcing the filmmakers to squeeze it into that family friendly category. Never mind that the story and characters were anything but family viewing.
The film does have three spectacular sequences, showing it could have been something epic. Could have been.[/quote]


Canon got totally screwed, guy barely works anymore
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That's actually not the case. While he no longer directs features, he makes a fortune directing television. He is currently one of the go-to directors on NIKITA.

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Yep, he's done loads of TV gigs and was involved with CSI for years, I'd hardly say that he "barely works anymore"
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I meant motion pictures, young Americans was way more promising than CSI
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It was planned as an R rated film, then the suits forced it into a PG-13 category and it was re-written five times (or more). Even while shooting the studio was screwing with it. Then the MPAA kept slapping it with an R, no matter how much they cut out. So it was nothing but a big giant bag of compromises. Much like KING ARTHUR, it was a case of the suits dreaming of money bags and forcing the filmmakers to squeeze it into that family friendly category. Never mind that the story and characters were anything but family viewing.
The film does have three spectacular sequences, showing it could have been something epic. Could have been.

Considering the embarrassingly dismal box office performance of this year's hard-R reboot, do the studio's have much of any other alternative than to water everything down to PG-13?

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Considering the embarrassingly dismal box office performance of this year's hard-R reboot, do the studio's have much of any other alternative than to water everything down to PG-13?
Although Prometheus did well at the B.O., you do have a point.

I think "R" will eventually be actualized more on home video as Director's Cuts, Unrated Cuts, etc. than in commercial theaters.

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Finally took a look at this BD.
The reports don't exaggerate...this has stunningly good AV.
Sadly, the movie itself is not very good.
The decision to use a comic relief guy (Schneider) as a sidekick instead of the romantic angle (Diane Lane) destroys the movie.
Playing it straight-up with Sly and Lane on the lam COULD have made this film work.
Oh well, so it goes....
I LOVE Dredd. It's about as serious a piece of sci-fi as Fifth Element; removing either Schneider or Tucker changes nothing. I may be wrong, but I don't think Stallone could pull off a "straight" sci-fi performance.

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I LOVE Dredd. It's about as serious a piece of sci-fi as Fifth Element; removing either Schneider or Tucker changes nothing. I may be wrong, but I don't think Stallone could pull off a "straight" sci-fi performance.
IMO, the Schneider part undermines the seriousness of the Judge character...someone who is judge, jury, and executioner in a society where it is approved.

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Considering the embarrassingly dismal box office performance of this year's hard-R reboot, do the studio's have much of any other alternative than to water everything down to PG-13?
R rated films can still make money. And every once in a while an R rated film comes along and proves it. FLIGHT is going to be hugely profitable.

And thank God for the R rated comedy.

But nobody wanted another DREDD movie outside of the die hard fans. It was a stupid movie to make. Not stupid as in a stupid script. But stupid in risking the money on a concept that was a turd when released back in the 90's. No one outside of the comic book word knows that DREDD is cool character. They just know the Sly Stallone film that tanked.

Worse, the studios are creating a vicious catch-22 for the R. They don't know ho to market them. They are flat out afraid of them. And when they make one, they stack the odds against it. Sadly, the last big big R rated film to come out was not exactly a critical darling. You yourself despised it. No need to mention the name of the film but it opened big and fell fast because audiences were split. Had it been a better film, it would have made a lot more money. 402 million worldwide so it's profitable, but only 126 mil of that was domestic. I truly believe had it been as good as ALIEN or ALIENS we would have seen a 200 million dollar U.S. gross.

And by the way, how many PG movies are there now? Pretty soon we will have G and PG-13 and that's it. The thought makes me wanna puke. How ****ed up is it that if I want adult fare i need to watch HBO, Showtime or AMC original television programming?!

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Sadly, the last big big R rated film to come out was not exactly a critical darling. You yourself despised it. No need to mention the name of the film

Umm, Cloud Atlas? The Expendables 2? tongue.gif
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Pretty much anything DreamWorks or Disney/Pixar. They don't even seem to try for "G" anymore.

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CLOUD ATLAS was an independent movie. Warner just distributed it. I don't consider THE EXPENDABLES 2 to be a big film. PROMETHEUS was a huge picture with a huge marketing campaign. There are few like it today.

And Peter, I am not talking about movies for kids with PG. It used to be there were plenty of PG rated films. JAWS and RAIDERS were PG! Now it seems to be the Disney/Pixar rating. Nearly everything is PG-13.

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Well, Jaws and Raiders came along when there was nothing between PG and R. PG remained a pretty broad category for awhile, but a lot of stuff that might've gotten a PG in the '80s or early '90s gets a PG-13 today, and by the same token a lot of PGs from that era would probably be a PG-13 now. Roger Rabbit and Dick Tracy come to mind -- not to mention Radioland Murders, which pulled a PG in 1994 despite some above-the-waist female nudity. There's no way that would happen today. Of course the MPAA is an industry body, so it's fair to ask if the studios just resigned themselves to this, happily acquiesced, or actively encouraged it.
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IMO, the Schneider part undermines the seriousness of the Judge character...someone who is judge, jury, and executioner in a society where it is approved.
In that case, someone other than Sly should've been originally picked for the role. Without Schneider, it'd just turn into another Rocky movie, IMO.

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German version looks better to me, the US is too bright.

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Yeah, looks to me as the same source, but brightened.

Always been happy with the German release, even happier now, lol
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