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It took more balls to make a film that looks that good for only 130m! battleship was nearly 300!
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CGI is very expensive. It baffles me that practical effects have fallen out of use, and CGI is used for even the most mundane stuff now a days.

CGI used to be for the stuff that would be the most expensive or difficult to do with practical, freeing up money. Suits saw it, saw it as spectacle and marketing, and think that CGI is cheaper to use for everything; so now we get expensive, sub par CGI. So much so that practical effects studios have been going belly up left and right. Sort of sad really, since there's going to be a big crunch in directors that can really paint feature films going forward. Guillermo Del Toro is about the only contemporary film maker up to snuff IMO.
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battleship was nearly 300!
I hate to ask what the gross B.O. were for that....eek.gif

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I hate to ask what the gross B.O. were for that....eek.gif

$302,836,260 worldwide
Budget was $209 million
(according to boxofficemojo)

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That is without marketing, it made just over 1 million, universal's biggest loss in 100 years
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That is without marketing, it made just over 1 million, universal's biggest loss in 100 years

Very true. I've seen marketing campaigns go well over the $100 million mark.

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Apparently, Tony Scott was dealing with an inoperable brain tumor....now back to Prometheus.........

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No he wasn't. That has been refuted by his wife.

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This past Sunday, Prometheus has officially become the highest grossing movie in the entire franchise, with a $330m worldwide take. It has yet to open in two major markets, China and Italy. With the first Alien closely behind ($328m worldwide adjusted for inflation), Prometheus is ahead of any other sequel, AVP, or Predator movie. It took some balls to release an R rated $130m budget movie, let's hope we get more from Hollywood smile.gif
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i still cant figure out what caused it to even reach the R rating. i was very excited when i heard that it would be but then after i saw it, didnt see the justification for it...
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Was 1 5 here but the surgery scene and the arm break made me wince.
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Blu-ray is coming? This movie haven't showed on China! WTF!
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Chinese release dates are all over the place. A more extreme example is The Lincoln Lawyer, which came out in Chinese theaters last week. But then China didn't have to wait three months for Avengers like Japan did, and sometimes they even get Hollywood movies ahead of the U.S. (e.g. Brave). And Americans are used to waiting a long time for foreign films to hit U.S. theaters.
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Nice looking but no way I am buying that since already owning Alien Anthology.

Not to mention I'd rather wait for any Prometheus sequel(s) to also hit home video before pulling the trigger on a set like this.

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Blu-ray is coming? This movie haven't showed on China! WTF!


why bother releasing it in china now. everyone there has already seen it on all the pirated copies.

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It made about $4.5 million on its first day in China, which is at least $4.5 million more than it would've made otherwise. It's not going to be huge (especially since it opened around the same time as Spider-Man, Batman and The Expendables 2) but nobody is likely to lose money on it.
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It made about $4.5 million on its first day in China, which is at least $4.5 million more than it would've made otherwise.
Even that's probably more than the distribution costs for that release. Every little bit helps.

Still waiting for an official release date announcement, though.

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You can make, market and distribute a film in China for less than that. A big-budget Hollywood movie like Prometheus would have higher marketing costs than a low-budget domestic flick, but not massively higher (Hollywood movies have enough built-in cachet that they usually don't need big ad campaigns). It'll probably top out somewhere around $25-30 million.
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why bother releasing it in china now. everyone there has already seen it on all the pirated copies.

Hummm, maybe you are right. But there are still lots of people prefer to watch movie in the theater.
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I had been looking forward to seeing this for so long and then it came out and I don't know where it went. What was the deal with this release? Many seem to dislike it.
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I had been looking forward to seeing this for so long and then it came out and I don't know where it went. What was the deal with this release? Many seem to dislike it.

Prometheus? It's not out yet, oct. 11. Nobody has seen what it looks like on Blu-ray.
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For a film that had a 5k start and a 70mm blow up in a different ratio you would have thought they would have finished at 4k, but with the small budget I am not surprised.
Should look beautiful from what I saw, banding could be a huge issue if they pack the disc.
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I had been looking forward to seeing this for so long and then it came out and I don't know where it went. What was the deal with this release? Many seem to dislike it.

I disliked it. It had more narrative and character development flaws than you could shake a stick at. It also had a lot more Hollywood monster movie cliches than it had any right to have. IMHO. The original Alien and Aliens are still THE best of the bunch, by a wide margin. Rent it first.

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It's a flawed (mostly script issues) masterpiece, but find a more beautify shot movie in the last 5 years.
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It's a flawed (mostly script issues) masterpiece, but find a more beautify shot movie in the last 5 years.

I find that using "masterpiece" to describe this film is too kind a word, by far. I don't even consider Aliens to be a "masterpiece," just a very well done action thriller with a great performance by Sigourney Weaver. If I was describing Lawrence of Arabia or Citizen Kane or All About Eve or Seven Samurai, I'd use the word. IMHO.

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"Masterpiece", my foot -- flawed or otherwise. Yes, it was beautiful, but that's not enough. The great Howard Hawks defined a "good" movie as having "three great scenes, no bad ones". "Prometheus" doesn't even measure up to that standard.
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I find that using "masterpiece" to describe this film is too kind a word, by far. I don't even consider Aliens to be a "masterpiece," just a very well done action thriller with a great performance by Sigourney Weaver. If I was describing Lawrence of Arabia or Citizen Kane or All About Eve or Seven Samurai, I'd use the word. IMHO.

I was talking visually, but God forbid I have another opinion on this site, also Kane I am not a fan.
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I disliked it. It had more narrative and character development flaws than you could shake a stick at. It also had a lot more Hollywood monster movie cliches than it had any right to have. IMHO. The original Alien and Aliens are still THE best of the bunch, by a wide margin. Rent it first.

Dislikes monster movie cliches.

Calls ALIEN a great!

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Truth be told I was a little iffy on it first view. Second view it's much tighter, and you notice a lot in the acting and cinematography that works well, but isn't said, and pushes the narrative along. Such is Scott. Hell, I completely forgot about a few scenes that I must have overlooked when thinking and trying to connect the dots to ALIEN on the first view.

But yes, there are some moments that were very lazy, and could have easily been fixed. But, the same can be said about ALIEN. It gets the justification of "time" and "thats how it was then". In 30 years, where people look back and see transformers, comic book movies, and tween novel to movies as the big blockbusters, maybe Prometheus's faults will once again be said to be a problem of the era, overlooked for the things it did do right.

Who knows...

I am interested to see what was cut, and if Scott does go there with a DC
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I was talking visually, but God forbid I have another opinion on this site, also Kane I am not a fan.

+1 on Citizen Kane. Tried to watch from start to finish at least 3 times but just couldn't do it. Fell asleep every time. Enjoyment for me goes out the window and is replaced by a very tedious and fatiguing experience. Thats what makes movies so great, there is something out there for everyone. To Kill a Mocking Bird is my "Masterpiece".

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Something like Citizen Kane is as much about visual technique as it is about story and dialog. It may not be fast paced for today's audience, but I like that it takes its time. Spot on with To Kill A Mocking Bird! Another group of "masterpieces" is Hitchcock's Rebecca, Vertigo, and Rear Window, and to a slightly lesser extent Psycho.

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