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Trailer on the High Fidelity disc, not much info yet will update as it comes.


Contains 3 digitally remastered Roger Rabbit Shorts

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Hurrah! Definitely looking forward to this one! smile.gif
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Will try and capture some shots later after I finish watching High Fidelity
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Hard to believe that there was never a sequel!

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They tried and had part of a script
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Awesome! I'm looking forward to revisiting this great movie and showing it to my daughter. She's been raised with a good appreciation of classic Disney and Warner Brothers short animation, so I'm sure she'll get a kick out of this.

Movies look their best when they look like movies. More Patton-esque remasters!

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Will try and capture some shots later

Looking forward to it!
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Interestingly, Bob Hoskins has been diagnosed with Parkinson's and is retiring according to multiple reports.
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I wonder if they'll finally release the unedited version that was previously only available on laserdisc and vhs tape?
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I wonder if they'll finally release the unedited version that was previously only available on laserdisc and vhs tape?
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Never going to happen, unless we spam the Pixar guys on twitter and hope against hope
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So Disney is releasing this?
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So Disney is releasing this?

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I wonder if they'll finally release the unedited version that was previously only available on laserdisc and vhs tape?

I had a copy of that laser (and sold it for profit back in the day)
A few nasty frames here and there.
It really wasn't any big deal.

Really looking forward to this.
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I do not quite trust Disney trailers. Dumbo was full of film grain in the BD trailer I have and entirely missing in the actual release and the stereovision Nightmare Before Christmas trailer was brighter then the BD.
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I do not quite trust Disney trailers. Dumbo was full of film grain in the BD trailer I have and entirely missing in the actual release and the stereovision Nightmare Before Christmas trailer was brighter then the BD.
Do keep in mind that this isn't an animated movie. It's a live action movie with animated characters in it with a small number of scenes in the animated world. Disney isn't Universal when it comes to live action stuff.


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Do keep in mind that this isn't an animated movie. It's a live action movie with animated characters in it with a small number of scenes in the animated world. Disney isn't Universal when it comes to live action stuff.

Yet of late they have put out some crap
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From the High Fidelity trailer












Bad compression is bad!! may have well ripped the youtube trailer!
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This better get a new master
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I have a hard time believing that's what the BD will look like, otherwise it would be the worse pq released by Disney.
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Do keep in mind that this isn't an animated movie. It's a live action movie with animated characters in it with a small number of scenes in the animated world.

I was clearly referring to the accuracy of Disney's trailers not whatever you are writing about.
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Disney isn't Universal when it comes to live action stuff.

See the Universal level pq of disney's Good Morning Vietnam put out this year.
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Don't films of this type (live action mixed with animation) typically have a plethora of visual artifacts due to the process? After all, they're compositing animation cels over film, right? I imagine that would lend itself to a degree of softness, not unlike the effect modern CG has in film today.
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Don't films of this type (live action mixed with animation) typically have a plethora of visual artifacts due to the process? After all, they're compositing animation cels over film, right? I imagine that would lend itself to a degree of softness, not unlike the effect modern CG has in film today.
Different animal.

With CGI, the whole scene is brought into the digital environment (even the non-CGI stuff), meaning the quality is at the mercy of the resolution of the digital workflow they opt to use.

With animation incorporated into live action from the Roger Rabbit era and earlier, it would be more like what happens when you expand a set that has only been partially built with a physical matte painting (like a giant arena or a historical city) or insert a physical model into a scene. In this case, it uses a traveling matte processes, which uses a black and white key element to create the composite (white is solid, black is clear and shades of grey range from nearly solid to nearly transparent). Like with completely animated productions, this can use several layers and passes to add lighting and shadow effects.


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With animation incorporated into live action from the Roger Rabbit era and earlier, it would be more like what happens when you expand a set that has only been partially built with a physical matte painting (like a giant arena or a historical city) or insert a physical model into a scene.

I see. I assumed that adding in more layers might diminish the clarity of the underlying elements. I was thinking along the lines of other Blu-rays I have like The Ten Commandments, where scenes involving roto-ed or animated backdrops or animated effects really lose sharpness.

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With animation incorporated into live action from the Roger Rabbit era and earlier, it would be more like what happens when you expand a set that has only been partially built with a physical matte painting (like a giant arena or a historical city) or insert a physical model into a scene. In this case, it uses a traveling matte processes, which uses a black and white key element to create the composite (white is solid, black is clear and shades of grey range from nearly solid to nearly transparent). Like with completely animated productions, this can use several layers and passes to add lighting and shadow effects.

Don't forget with Roger Rabbit they also used VistaVision for the on-set live action capture to offset the loss of resolution from going through the optical printer.

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Don't forget with Roger Rabbit they also used VistaVision for the on-set live action capture to offset the loss of resolution from going through the optical printer.

That they did, that means the grain should be pretty great as far as comps go.
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Don't films of this type (live action mixed with animation) typically have a plethora of visual artifacts due to the process? After all, they're compositing animation cels over film, right?

Around the time this film came out the industry seemed to be getting a lot better at optical compositing.
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I imagine that would lend itself to a degree of softness, not unlike the effect modern CG has in film today.

Are you saying that shots with CG in current films look softer to you then non-CG shots? I have not noticed this and there's no reason that should be the case in current professional films.
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March 12th



No specs yet.

Strangely, Amazon has another pre-order at the same price with no indication of the differences. I guess they're doing the BD-case-or-DVD-case thing.
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No specs yet.
Strangely, Amazon has another pre-order at the same price with no indication of the differences. I guess they're doing the BD-case-or-DVD-case thing.

I wonder if they'll finally include the fully unedited version?
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