Originally Posted by Foxbat121
The problem is everybody has different setup and equipements (AVRs and speakers and even rooms as well as different hearing capabilities). There is really no way to claim one way or another that universally applies to everyone. A lot acustic stuff really isn't scientific measurement but subjective judgements. For example, a lot of audiophiles prefer the slighly distorted output from a tube amp vs a virtually distortionless modem amp. There is no scientific explanations to it.
For example, LPCM vs DTS HD-MA, some early players are not designed properly that poorly matches what receivers are anticipating. Typically receivers will automatically apply 10db boost to .1 LFE channel if it decodes them but will not do so if it receives LPCM. As a result, players are suppose to boost 10db on LFE channel if it decodes into LPCM before send out to receivers because typically LFE channe is lowered by 10db on disc audio track for added dynamic range. This mismatch can't be resolved by simply raise your receiver volumn.
Right but if there are drastic audible differences between tracks I don't see why this could not be measured and graphed on something like a waterfall chart. You are talking about one track having more dynamics than the other, after level matching, you should be able to measure and graph them, no?
I do agree with you that there are many dynamics, and hearing is certainly one of them. I have great hearding, but my father abused his hearing in the constuction industry and has to wear hearing aids to hear anything. He could careless between lossy and lossless obviously
I think much of what people think they are hearing is either level matching issues, or placebo effect. I am not joking. There are people that will swear up and down that a $5K Kimber cable makes all the difference in an audio setup and claim there are massive differences in sound vs using a higher quality cable that costs less than $50...
I have done double blind cable tests, and double blind amplifier tests, and it saved me a ton of cash as I was not able to distinguish between amp A ($300), B ($600) and C ($1500) . Three of us did the testing and all three of us failed to pick the most expensive amp.. Power is power. If the amps have similar power, impedance, and distortion levels, you would be hard pressed to hear a difference.
Now if you stuck a 4ohm rated speaker on a 50 watt 8ohm rated amp and drove it hard vs a 4ohm speaker on a 300 watt 4 ohm rated amp and drove it hard, then yes, spend the money and get the amp that is rated for your speakers.