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By blending Bond the character with newer, younger, different elements, you end up with a refreshed Bond. There's a new dynamic now with Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
the new M, the new Q, and Moneypenny, and Bond stiil prevails because Bond adapts himself to these changes.

This franchise is unique (50 years old and still alive!), so to keep it relevant the filmmakers constantly have to adapt it to the current times
It still hasn't been explained to me why the filmmakers decided that their definition of a "refreshed Bond adapted to current times" had to be this flawed, this much of a failure, this burned out, or why it was necessary to depict M as a "mommy" figure for poor little "Jimmy" to cry over. Such a depiction sounds anything but "refreshing".
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One thing for sure when the credits started rolling the first time I saw it, I thought damn, I want to see the next one - now! smile.gif
Indeed. Hopefully we won't have to wait nearly as long as we did between QoS and Skyfall...
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It's funny reading the people bag out Daniel Craig as being too old for the role and even more laughable the talk of his so called less than ideal moves around women. Compared to the outright sleaziness and corny crap earlier Bond actors portrayed around women, Daniel Craig destroys them. As far as being too old, what a joke, women love him and he is one of the main reasons why the franchise has reached new levels of popularity. Both my wife and her sister (and most of their female friends lol) can't get enough of him, our 15yo daughter and her friends love him, and none of them had any interest in Bond films until Casino Royale came out. Me, I agree with others here, best Bond actor ever and just love his hard edge and badass persona.
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My only regret of the new turn of the James Bond character is that he was a womanizing, heavy drinking smoker... I miss that... particularly the womanizing part. It's a man's world but it seem that the Broccoli daughter has forgotten this.

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My only regret of the new turn of the James Bond character is that he was a womanizing, heavy drinking smoker... I miss that... particularly the womanizing part.
A Bond for a different time.

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It's a man's world but it seem that the Broccoli daughter has forgotten this.
It WAS "a man's world."wink.gif

The Craig/Broccoli Bond is perfect for this era.

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My only regret of the new turn of the James Bond character is that he was a womanizing, heavy drinking smoker... I miss that... particularly the womanizing part. It's a man's world but it seem that the Broccoli daughter has forgotten this.
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A Bond for a different time.
It WAS "a man's world."wink.gif

The Craig/Broccoli Bond is perfect for this era.
Its still a mans world. Just, perhaps, not in your world. wink.gif

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My only regret of the new turn of the James Bond character is that he was a womanizing, heavy drinking smoker... I miss that... particularly the womanizing part. It's a man's world but it seem that the Broccoli daughter has forgotten this.

Agree 100%. A politically-correct Bond isn't Bond at all.

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In case anyone missed the reference at M's trial....to Tennyson.


"Though much is taken, much abides; and though
We are not now that strength which in the old days
Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are,
One equal-temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield."

Here's the masterpiece in its entirety...
 
Alfred Lord Tennyson

It little profits that an idle king,
By this still hearth, among these barren crags,
Matched with an aged wife, I mete and dole
Unequal laws unto a savage race,
That hoard, and sleep, and feed, and know not me.

I cannot rest from travel: I will drink
Life to the lees: all times I have enjoyed
Greatly, have suffered greatly, both with those
That loved me, and alone; on shore, and when
Through scudding drifts the rainy Hyades
Vext the dim sea: I am become a name;
For always roaming with a hungry heart
Much have I seen and known; cities of men
And manners, climates, councils, governments,
Myself not least, but honoured of them all;
And drunk delight of battle with my peers;v
Far on the ringing plains of windy Troy.
I am part of all that I have met;
Yet all experience is an arch wherethrough
Gleams that untravelled world, whose margin fades
For ever and for ever when I move.
How dull it is to pause, to make an end,
To rust unburnished, not to shine in use!
As though to breath were life. Life piled on life
Were all to little, and of one to me
Little remains: but every hour is saved
From that eternal silence, something more,
A bringer of new things; and vile it were
For some three suns to store and hoard myself,
And this gray spirit yearning in desire
To follow knowledge like a sinking star,
Beyond the utmost bound of human thought.

This is my son, mine own Telemachus,
To whom I leave the scepter and the isle
Well-loved of me, discerning to fulfill
This labour, by slow prudence to make mild
A rugged people, and through soft degrees
Subdue them to the useful and the good.
Most blameless is he, centered in the sphere
Of common duties, decent not to fail
In offices of tenderness, and pay
Meet adoration to my household gods,
When I am gone. He works his work, I mine.

There lies the port; the vessel puffs her sail:
There gloom the dark broad seas. My mariners,
Souls that have toiled, and wrought, and thought with me
That ever with a frolic welcome took
The thunder and the sunshine, and opposed
Free hearts, free foreheads you and I are old;
Old age had yet his honour and his toil;
Death closes all: but something ere the end,
Some work of noble note, may yet be done,
Not unbecoming men that strove with Gods.
The lights begin to twinkle from the rocks:
The long day wanes: the slow moon climbs: the deep
Moans round with many voices. Come, my friends,
'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.
Push off, and sitting well in order smite
The sounding furrows; for my purpose holds
To sail beyond the sunset, and the baths
Of all the western stars, until I die.
It may be that the gulfs will wash us down:
It may be we shall touch the Happy Isles,
And see the great Achilles, whom we knew.
Though much is taken, much abides; and though
We are not now that strength which in the old days
Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are,
One equal-temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.

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Enjoyed Skyfall again tonight with a few drams of some fine single malt Scotch
And felt compelled to share my appreciation of the Bond re-boot, Daniel Craigs performance,
....and old school, literally, poetry from 1883.

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My only regret of the new turn of the James Bond character is that he was a womanizing, heavy drinking smoker... I miss that... particularly the womanizing part. It's a man's world but it seem that the Broccoli daughter has forgotten this.

Maybe having his "bits" bashed about in Casino Royale might have something to do with his decline in womanizing. Don't know about you, but my boys ache just thinking about that scene. eek.gifeek.gif
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Maybe having his "bits" bashed about in Casino Royale might have something to do with his decline in womanizing. Don't know about you, but my boys ache just thinking about that scene. eek.gifeek.gif

LOL, yes that scene is chringe inducing...
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Maybe having his "bits" bashed about in Casino Royale might have something to do with his decline in womanizing. Don't know about you, but my boys ache just thinking about that scene. eek.gifeek.gif
That scene came straight out of the Ian Fleming novel and was painful even to read about.

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That scene came straight out of the Ian Fleming novel and was painful even to read about.
Yes, and Bond had no trouble in that department afterwards.
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Yes, and Bond had no trouble in that department afterwards.
He did question his manhood for a small amount of time until he slept with a girl (dont remember who it was) and then he was back in the saddle. smile.gif

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Not enough womanizing, drinking or smoking, huh? Some if you must have a different version of Skyfall....
Okay, maybe he dropped the smoking, the rest is still there, considering what Bond had been through he faired pretty good (IMHO) Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

He took not just one, but Two bullets, fell a couple hundred feet off a moving train, hit the water Hard, nearly drowned and left for dead...

The next time we see him he's already "back in the saddle" LOL! and standing up pinning the woman to a wall no less?




Followed by some pain killers and a beer before heading out for a night of scorpion shots,
Then finishing off a bottle of Macallan for breakfast the next morning. LOL , ya what a pussy.

Craig is The epitome of BadAss in the new age 007 movies, and 100% Bond to the core.












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Maybe if he would have nailed Moneypenny too you'd be more convinced...but as most of us know
the reason that was never in the script for anything more than a close shave....

The next Bond movie will be awesome! Of that I have no doubt.

Just my observations and ramblings after a few of these....


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FWIW, I watched Golfinger today, first time in years
Connery was only intimate with 2 women, had one cigarette,
one martini, a sip of scotch...and a mint julip lol.

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FWIW, I watched Golfinger today, first time in years
Connery was only intimate with 2 women, had one cigarette,
one martini, a sip of scotch...and a mint julip lol.

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Kind of ironic how I read your post as I'm watching the Oscars on TV right now and they are doing their James Bond portion. Dame Shirley Bassey (sp?) is singing "Goldfinger" live, and I can't believe how great she looks for a woman of her age. Her vocal cords are still in great shape. Kudos Shirley!
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Kind of ironic how I read your post as I'm watching the Oscars on TV right now and they are doing their James Bond portion. Dame Shirley Bassey (sp?) is singing "Goldfinger" live, and I can't believe how great she looks for a woman of her age. Her vocal cords are still in great shape. Kudos Shirley!
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Man...I liked this in the theater, but I really love it as a blu ray. Even more than Avengers and Dark Knight Rises. Stylish and action packed. Several scenes stick in your mind after watching it...
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-the awesome car/cycle chase to start the movie, the winds up on a train. Bond gets inside the crane smile.gif...

-"skyfall" music video that follows, giving love to your surround system smile.gif.

-bond catches up to the hitman that escaped earlier, and a UFC style fight ensues atop a skyscraper in Japan smile.gif.

-Bond fights the bouncers at the casino in Japan, in a pit with Komodo Dragons smile.gif.

-the antagonist Silva's ingenious escape from MI6 headquarters, and Bond chasing him through the subway system.

-Silva detonates a bomb that creates a crater in the subway tracks, so the train falls through and at Bond smile.gif.

-Silva nonchalantly walks through a shootout between his henchman and the courthouse guards smile.gif.

-the huge gun battle in the courthouse

-Silva arrives at Bond's hideout via assault chopper blaring 50's music smile.gif.

-Bond detonates explosives leveling his hideout. The debris hits the chopper, sending it into the house for a surround-sound-shattering explosion biggrin.gif. It was the grand finaly to the last 2 hours of nonstop action biggrin.gif.

-Silva blackened from the the soot from the chopper explosion smile.gif.

Best movie EVER smile.gif...
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Man...I liked this in the theater, but I really love it as a blu ray. Even more than Avengers and Dark Knight Rises. Stylish and action packed. Several scenes stick in your mind after watching it...
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

-the awesome car/cycle chase to start the movie, the winds up on a train. Bond gets inside the crane smile.gif...

-"skyfall" music video that follows, giving love to your surround system smile.gif.

-bond catches up to the hitman that escaped earlier, and a UFC style fight ensues atop a skyscraper in Japan smile.gif.

-Bond fights the bouncers at the casino in Japan, in a pit with Komodo Dragons smile.gif.

-the antagonist Silva's ingenious escape from MI6 headquarters, and Bond chasing him through the subway system.

-Silva detonates a bomb that creates a crater in the subway tracks, so the train falls through and at Bond smile.gif.

-Silva nonchalantly walks through a shootout between his henchman and the courthouse guards smile.gif.

-the huge gun battle in the courthouse

-Silva arrives at Bond's hideout via assault chopper blaring 50's music smile.gif.

-Bond detonates explosives leveling his hideout. The debris hits the chopper, sending it into the house for a surround-sound-shattering explosion biggrin.gif. It was the grand finaly to the last 2 hours of nonstop action biggrin.gif.

-Silva blackened from the the soot from the chopper explosion smile.gif.

Best movie EVER smile.gif...


I wouldn't call it the best movie ever or for that matter the best Bond movie ever. To me that's still a tie between Casino Royale/Goldfinger but Skyfall in the top 3rd tier of the Bond Cannon, around 3 or 4. It's certainly better than the Dark Knight Rises which had too much fat and 15 minutes could have been edited out. But yes, most awesome lokking blu ray. I saw it in the theaters but I'm waiting for one of these long weekends so that many people are not around as I want to blast this movie from my Audio system. Maybe I'll test -28 to -25 levels, that's pretty loud.
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The hideout/helicopter explosion is off the Richter scale biggrin.gif.
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It's certainly better than the Dark Knight Rises which had too much fat and 15 minutes could have been edited out.

You could easily edit an hour out of Dark Knight Rises without losing anything important, IMO.

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There is absolutely no love at all for Skyfall and the Bond 50 from digitalbits.com. I know they've been shorthanded since the passing of Barrie Maxwell but they still have plenty of writers who are reviewing all other crappy movies.There is not one single review of the 9 unreleased Bond's and Skyfall. It used to be a great website but no more. Others have surpassed it by miles. This is not meant to be a slam to its owner because it seems to me he can do a lot better.
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About the mistress in China? I called it Japan earlier, but its China smile.gif...
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Bond has two love interests, the mistress and Moneypenny. But its the mistress that is featured in the advertisements, as if she has a more prominent role in the film. She doesn't. She appears briefly as a means to get Bond to Silva's hideout, where she is quickly knocked off during the game of "target practice". I thought she'd, you know, help Bond take Silva down or something.

Silva head-shots her during his target game with Bond, and that's it, she's gone. After roughly 15 minutes of screen time smile.gif. I couldn't believe she was already gone. They check her pulse smile.gif? You could say that Moneypenny is the main love interest considering screen time.
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About the mistress in China? I called it Japan earlier, but its China smile.gif...
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Bond has two love interests, the mistress and Moneypenny. But its the mistress that is featured in the advertisements, as if she has a more prominent role in the film. She doesn't. She appears briefly as a means to get Bond to Silva's hideout, where she is quickly knocked off during the game of "target practice". I thought she'd, you know, help Bond take Silva down or something.

Silva head-shots her during his target game with Bond, and that's it, she's gone. After roughly 15 minutes of screen time smile.gif. I couldn't believe she was already gone. They check her pulse smile.gif? You could say that Moneypenny is the main love interest considering screen time.
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Depends on how you think of Moneypenny. Bond never sleeps with her, so she doesn't really fit as the classic "Bond Girl". But, I would say it's a much more lucrative role, since MP is the girl that Bond always wants, but never gets. Not many girls in the Bond universe can say that. smile.gif

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So you're saying there wasn't action after she gives him the shave smile.gif?
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So you're saying there wasn't action after she gives him the shave smile.gif?
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Depends on how you think of Moneypenny. Bond never sleeps with her, so she doesn't really fit as the classic "Bond Girl". But, I would say it's a much more lucrative role, since MP is the girl that Bond always wants, but never gets. Not many girls in the Bond universe can say that. smile.gif
I disagree. She wants him but Bond just likes to flirt because he knows anything else would not be proper.

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You guys really need to re-watch Goldfinger again,
And a few of the other early Connery era Bond flicks....

Then you will clearly see that so much of the new Bond is deeply rooted in the originals.

Makes everything in between feel like a bad Austin Powers spoof,

"Where's my freaking sharks with freaking laser beams on their heads....lol."

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