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Personally, I love the cover:



This is one of my all time favorite movies. Somehow, I didn't know about the MoC release until just now, but even if I had, I'd still be getting the Criterion. I'm stoked!

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FEATURES:



New high-definition digital restoration, approved by director Alex Cox, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack on the Blu-ray edition
Audio commentary featuring Cox, executive producer Michael Nesmith, casting director Victoria Thomas, and actors Sy Richardson, Zander Schloss, and Del Zamora
Interviews with Cox, Richardson, and Zamora; producers Peter McCarthy and Jonathan Wacks; actors Olivia Barash, Dick Rude, Miguel Sandoval, and Harry Dean Stanton; musicians Keith Morris and Iggy Pop; and Sam Cohen, the inventor of the neutron bomb
Deleted scenes
The complete “cleaned-up” television version of the film, prepared by Cox
Trailers
PLUS: A booklet featuring an essay by critic Sam McPheeters; an illustrated production history by Cox, with his original comic and film proposal; and a 1987 interview with real-life repo man Mark Lewis


Thus spaketh Criterion:

http://www.criterion.com/films/28051-repo-man


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Not a fan of the new cover art (and admittedly don't care much for the original poster art either) but I'm in for day 1 buy. Love this movie and stoked it's getting the Criterion treatment.
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Aw yeah, back when cut, paste, and airbrush actually meant something:



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Is the MoC release the same transfer?

EDIT: It appears to be a Region B release.....frown.gif

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Is the MoC release the same transfer?

EDIT: It appears to be a Region B release.....frown.gif

MoC are region B, yes.

I can't see them being the same transfer. Two Lane Blacktop wasn't, at any rate.


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MoC are region B, yes.

I can't see them being the same transfer. Two Lane Blacktop wasn't, at any rate.
Here is a review:

Personally supervised and approved by Alex Cox, 'Repo Man' lands on Blu-ray with a striking 1080p/AVC MPEG-4 encode that will surprise devoted fans and neophytes alike. Presented in its original 1.85:1 aspect ratio and taken from a new high-definition master, this is a marked improvement over previous home video editions and will likely stand as the definitive version for many years.

The picture is awash with a thin veil of grain throughout, giving it a very attractive film-like quality. The structure is made somewhat more apparent during low-lit interiors, but is never intrusive or gives the illusion of mosquito noise. The rest of the transfer displays excellent definition and clarity for a nearly thirty-year-old movie shot on a small budget. Facial complexions show great texture while cars, clothing and the Los Angeles architecture are distinct, sometimes strikingly so. Aside from a couple scenes with slightly below average resolution, the movie is quite sharp for its age and production history with terrific shadow details in the many nighttime sequences.

Contrast and brightness are very well-balanced with clean, bright whites and accurate, deep blacks. Colors receive a nice boost and are boldly rendered, particularly in the softer pastel hues. The transfer overall comes with a revitalized feel and energy without losing any of the movie's deliberate grittiness which beautifully exemplifies Robby Müller's photography, making this high-def edition a must-own upgrade for cult enthusiasts.

According to the accompanying booklet, the original monaural design has also been remastered for this Blu-ray edition and the results are outstanding. The DTS-HD Master Audio track comes with exceptional acoustical presence that while remaining perfectly centered in the middle of the screen, imaging manages to feel broad and expansive from beginning to end. Dialogue reproduction is crystal-clear and precise. Dynamic range is surprisingly extensive, nicely differentiating a variety of loud, sometimes screeching noises from the mid-level sounds. There's also an ample amount of mid-bass that's robust for a movie from 1984, though the scenes with the Chevy Malibu make better use of that deep extension. Still, it's enough to give the lossless mix a good deal of appreciable weight, especially with all the great music playing in the background.

Overall, it's a notable and memorable high-rez soundtrack for fans to enjoy.

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That's the High Def Digest review of the MoC: http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/6997/repoman_ukimport.html

Here are the caps of the MoC at caps-a-holic: http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/comparison.php?cap1=8364&cap2=8354&art=full&image=5&cID=942&action=1&lossless=#vergleich


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Thanx for the caps.

These shots definitely show how horrible the DVD is.
The BD certainly isn't eye-candy, but it is a huge step up in every way.

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Nice. Hope that we can get a pre-order price under the $30 mark.


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One thing i hate is having to buy this stuff twice... I first buy repo and two lane on MOC, now i have to buy them again in region A so as to get the primo version... this sucks

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One thing i hate is having to buy this stuff twice... I first buy repo and two lane on MOC, now i have to buy them again in region A so as to get the primo version... this sucks

You could look at it that way. You could also say, "damn, we're lucky to have Repo Man in high resolution at all, now we have TWO good versions to choose from!"


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I caved and got the MoC biggrin.gif It looks fantastic. I hope the Criterion transfer will be even better, but it's hard to see how it could. The commentary track, though old, is very good, with everyone involved clearly big fans of the film. Emilio Estevez is conspicuous by his absence from the commentary and documentaries. It was great to see the TV version again too, melonfarmer.


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yeah... I think I am happy with the import.

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One of the interviews brought up a fascinating contrast: The guy who invented the neutron bomb, loves the movie. Even with the line "It's so immoral (the neutron bomb), working on the thing can drive you mad!"

In fact, the bomb's inventor won a special medal from the Pope, no joke, because it represented the most Christian form of warfare. My mind was blown.


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that POPE(Catholicism), obviously didnt know how the crusades went.

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that POPE(Catholicism), obviously didnt know how the crusades went.

Not even going there. biggrin.gif

Repo Man, sure is a good movie smile.gif


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Is the MoC release the same transfer?

My gut feeling was right on this one, MoC and Criterion generally don't share transfers, which is a cool thing in this case, because double dipping won't hurt quite as bad if I tell myself that the Criterion is a transfer upgrade smile.gif

Blu-Ray Review

If it's been a while since you've listened to the commentary, or dug into these extras, I highly recommend you do it. All the extras, taken in as a whole, give you the feeling that you actually helped make this crazy movie with these crazy people. It's pretty damn cool. Read the booklet last.


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The new and approved by director Alex Cox high-definition transfer is not identical to the one Eureka Entertainment used for their Blu-ray release of Repo Man in the United Kingdom. In addition to the framing -- the Criterion transfer is framed in 1.78:1 but actually has more information on the top and bottom -- brightness levels and color saturation are also different. Generally speaking, Criterion's high-definition transfer is also slightly darker (or the UK release has elevated brightness levels). Compression is also marginally better on the Criterion release. The most obvious discrepancies are during close-ups where light isn't severely restricted (compare screencapture #18 with screencapture #14 from our review of the UK release). In most cases, image depth is marginally better on the Criterion release. The color discrepancies are also very easy to spot. On the Criterion release the greens, browns, blues, and grays are richer and better saturated (compare screencapture #1 with screencapture #15 from our review of the UK release). Furthermore, grain is visible throughout the entire film, but as it was the case with the UK release there is light noise that is occasionally mixed with it. There are no traces of problematic sharpening corrections. Also, there are no large damage marks, debris, cuts, or warps. There are no serious stability issues to report in this review either. All in all, I think that the Criterion release of Repo Man is the all-around better looking release, but the UK release is also very healthy. (Note: This is a Region-A "locked" Blu-ray disc. Therefore, you must have a native Region-A or Region-Free PS3 or SA in order to access its content).


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Anyone want a MOC?

LOL, on blu-ray's word alone? I'm gonna A/B that sucker, watch the Criterion all the way through, then put them both back on the shelf biggrin.gif


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I am so glad I held off on buying the MOC release. March and April have been and continue to look like great months for excellent cult film titles rolling out on Blu-ray.
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I am so glad I held off on buying the MOC release.
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Don't forget about June (Lifeforce and Street Trash).


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LOL, on blu-ray's word alone? I'm gonna A/B that sucker, watch the Criterion all the way through, then put them both back on the shelf biggrin.gif

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MOC vs Criterion:

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/dvdreviews20/repo_man_dvd_review.htm

I have said it before and I will say it again, MOC brightens it's BDs across the board (and not just a little) and I do not care for it.
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You'll find it on every MOC bluray. ...You'll see...

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I have said it before and I will say it again, MOC brightens it's BDs across the board (and not just a little) and I do not care for it.

I dont know, MOC looks better in terms or resolution, Criterion looks better in terms of exposure... though MOC shadow areas are a lot better.

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I dont know, MOC looks better in terms or resolution, Criterion looks better in terms of exposure... though MOC shadow areas are a lot better.

This is the kind of stuff that people fight tooth and nail about on forums, and it really does come down to a matter of opinion. I do see "just a little" brightness and saturation difference between the two. Judging by the screens, they both look good. I'll view them on my equipment, and make the final call. The main thing is that we have not one but two damn good transfers of a film that I'm surprised to see in high def at all. True story: I never noticed all the paintbrush and drip marks on the glowing Malibu until watching it on my projection screen. biggrin.gif


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Given a choice (based on screenshots), I would take the MOC,
However, Region "B" makes that impossible for me.

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DVDbeaver's caps are worthless as usual, but based on blu-ray.com's review the Criterion transfer looks much better to me compared to the other one, and very good in general.
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There are some striking differences here and some major WTFs from me again over Criterion's extras hogging bitrate space from the film.

First of all orange is in place of red in the MOC transfer which imo changes the look of the film quite a bit. It's brighter, definitely marginally more detailed with a 9Mbps advantage, and seems to have worse colors in the end from those Beaver shots. I like the green of the car better and the reds better in the Criterion.

The Criterion for some odd and ridiculous reason includes the TV version of the film edited and censored in 1080i! OH YAY! Thanks for this I really needed it!

My question is why the hell do I want a TV version of this film taking over an hour and a half in 1080i when the bitrate has to obviously suffer? I know their encode does look good but spends far too much time in the 20s when it should not have to. With Criterion pricing not changing but twice a year or so I will have to pass on this. I cannot for the life of me understand why this company offers these stupid extras in place of preserving the integrity of the image.

Anyway, despite that, their encoding looks good with slightly limited peaks and a decent mainfloor around 20Mbps.
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With Criterion pricing not changing but twice a year or so I will have to pass on this. I cannot for the life of me understand why this company offers these stupid extras in place of preserving the integrity of the image.
It's a mystery only Criterion understands.wink.gif

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