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post #901 of 918 Old 06-20-2014, 03:23 PM
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Jesus....it's no wonder people don't frequent AVS' Blu-ray software forum any more, the FUD that's just been unleashed in this thread is mind-bogglingly ignorant.
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Sigh. This is like talking to a brick wall. Except that a brick wall at least serves some useful purpose.
Agree! This is rampant not only on this thread but all over AVS Forum. I visit nowhere as frequent as I used to. 10 years ago it was civil, members learn from each others' experiences as opposed to spreading FUD, being know it all when in reality they never even experienced any given technology/topic. I really miss those days.
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Are you joking, again?

Scanning film to digital introduces all kinds of DPI artifacts, contrast issues, brightness issues, not to mention making x,y and z dimensions "artificial".

Here is a prime example of that.

Get a Polaroid instant camera photo, scan it how ever you like, with what ever you like and compare the scan, to the actual photo. Yes the scan looks like crud and has to be "inhanced" to even compete with the original film photo.

I got one that is easier than that. Find some National Geographic magazines from before 1995 and look at those stunning photos that were literately printed off of the film stock negatives. 8K does not even touch film.

Better yet, find a local cinema in your area that still is using 35MM(yeah rare but possible) and see the same movie in digital. You will be surprised to find digital is not what it is cracked up to be.
I agree with you about film. Film has a certain organic texture that digital cameras will never replicate. The change to digital cameras is massively inferior and a downgrade. Transferring film to bluray loses some of that film quality too. Have a look at these pictures of the 35mm print of Scanners compared to the bluray- More pictures here- http://dirtypictures.phpbb8.de/subku...-t4699-90.html The 35mm print has better colors and a more real textured quality to it.

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The 35mm print has better colors and a more real textured quality to it.
Uhhh... In the first shot you posted, the print has turned pink and is covered in dirt. That's what you're using to make your argument?
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What's hilarious about this photo argument is that by the time we see the photos on AVSForum, they're ALL digital. So, OBVIOUSLY digital imagery is capable of "looking like" film, because we're looking at a grainy pink digital image that was from film. So, don't say that digital can't do what film can do. Because by posting these photos on the web, you've destroyed your own argument.
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Uhhh... In the first shot you posted, the print has turned pink and is covered in dirt. That's what you're using to make your argument?
Yeah it's not perfect but you can tell the print is better than the bluray. Just look at the overall image, it looks real. The bluray looks like a video copy. I saw the same difference with the Back To The Future 35mm print.

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Yeah it's not perfect but you can tell the print is better than the bluray. Just look at the overall image, it looks real. The bluray looks like a video copy. I saw the same difference with the Back To The Future 35mm print.
To each their own. Based on the comparisons you posted, the Blu-ray has much better color and way more detail in the actor's hair and skin texture, not to mention clearly-defined grain structure in the background.
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Transferring film to bluray loses some of that film quality too. Have a look at these pictures of the 35mm print of Scanners compared to the bluray-
Umm, The "print" which was scanned to a digital file, just like the Blu-ray, so it would show up on your computer monitor.


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Yeah it's not perfect but you can tell the print is better than the bluray. Just look at the overall image, it looks real. The bluray looks like a video copy. I saw the same difference with the Back To The Future 35mm print.
The "print" looks like it was scanned with someone's home HP printer/scanner/fax machine. The Blu-ray looks completely natural in presentation of grain and color.
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sony Bluray Mastered in 4K

it seems sony is no longer making Bluray's Mastered in 4K.... Anyone knows why?
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Hopefully their getting ready for straight 4K BD's
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Some Blu-rays are still getting mastered in 4K, I suspect they aren't bothering to advertise it anymore. Their 4K masterings did generally improve on prior Blu-ray versions with better grain reproduction and finer detail.
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I kind of liked this series, god knows how many blurays got recycled masters with filtering and looked no better than 720p. Knowing a movie came from a 4k master was a sure bet it would look good and do blu justice.

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it seems sony is no longer making Bluray's Mastered in 4K.... Anyone knows why?
They might not be doing catalog titles, but are you sure their new releases aren't 4K in many cases? I can't remember if my recent Sony discs say anything about 4K or not.

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it seems sony is no longer making Bluray's Mastered in 4K.... Anyone knows why?
They are still making them. They just aren't pushing the stand-alone product line. New releases have the MI4K identification on them.
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Annie, Fury, No Good Deed, and About Last Night are the most recent titles.
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Annie, Fury, No Good Deed, and About Last Night are the most recent titles.
And none are catalog titles and there are definitely some Sony titles that need new scans like Life of Brian.
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More like hit or miss.
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