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At last, but this is a region B that contains both the theatrical and director's cut on 2 discs.
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Didn't know there was 2 cuts.
I have the Region A BD and enjoy it very much.

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Didn't know there was 2 cuts.
I have the Region A BD and enjoy it very much.

The second or extended version is or was available on standard DVD and is 170 minutes, but was never available on BR. So that this is significant and something that I have waited for. It fills in the gaps. The longer version was too long to be shown at Cannes so it was cut and became the theatrical version that has been screened many times and even made it to the Italian Film festival in Los Angeles. I don't think that the 170 minute version ever made it to the big screen. Although the shorter theatrical version presents a seemingly complete story, the extended version is a must see. The only extraneous scene occurs near the beginning of the film. This is one time that the extended version is not a waste of time, especially for those who loved this film. Can only hope that this is a first class transfer onto BR. But it is a region B.
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It might not necessarily be region locked, I'm pretty sure most (all?) of Arrow's releases are region free. It's possible the extras would be in PAL, though.
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It might not necessarily be region locked, I'm pretty sure most (all?) of Arrow's releases are region free. It's possible the extras would be in PAL, though.

Will find out after Nov 25. the release date, although someone is likely to review it and indicate whether or not it is all region BR. Having an all region BR player simply buys one time and that could be months before the region A version is available.
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Didn't know there was 2 cuts.
I have the Region A BD and enjoy it very much.

For an alternate take, the theatrical cut (what you already have) is a beautiful, sentimental nostalgia film. The director's cut sentimentalizes what would otherwise be creepy stalking. It's quite a difference.

And nearly all of the cut material was at the end of the movie, in case you watch it and wonder "where's all the extra material?" It's coming. And it blows.

The theatrical cut was a testament to the power of good editing, IMO.
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The extended version is the director's cut and is what he wanted to show at Cannes. And I don't find it to be creepy stalking at all. For those interested, just watch it, otherwise, forget about it.
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The theatrical cut was a testament to the power of good editing, IMO.
Yep. The extended edition feels freakin' interminable. Whoever cut it made the right call, the extended material comes perilously close to ruining the movie.
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I totally agree.

If Million Dollar Baby incorporated 40 minutes of akward and uncomfortable romance at an inopportune time it would be entirely comparable to the added footage. Watch the theatrical cut and be done with it. The theatrical cut is one of my favorite movies and the DC is almost unwatchable.
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Will find out after Nov 25. the release date, although someone is likely to review it and indicate whether or not it is all region BR. Having an all region BR player simply buys one time and that could be months before the region A version is available.

It's Region B locked - sorry! (The new scan is utterly gorgeous, BTW).

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I have always been in love with the shorter version. And it's what I saw second. I enjoyed the extended cut, but the theatrical cut is perfect.

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Didn't know there was 2 cuts.
I have the Region A BD and enjoy it very much.

There's actually three cuts—the version that opened in Italy was different and runs about twenty minutes shorter than the eventual director's cut. It flopped so badly that they immediately went back to the editing room and cut out half an hour for the international release, which is the version most people are familiar with. There are some European VHS releases of the Italian cut, but I don't think it ever made the jump to DVD, much less Blu-ray. Even the Italian DVDs are either the international or director's cut.
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The problem I have with the extended version isn't so much the "soap opera" added to the end, but the fact that the severed relationship was caused not by Fate but by Alfredo deliberately blocking Elena's letters. This seems unlikely and out of character for this gentle man. 

 

I'm hunkered down with an expensive blu-ray of the film version I saw when I was 18, and that's the copy I'm going to share with my son when he gets to 18 and is ready to see this film. 

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That was a twist that one could not expect, but was how it was filmed and then shortened because of time constraints for the Cannes Film Festival. This is the director's cut which one is free to like or not.
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This seems unlikely and out of character for this gentle man. 


Not really since he did it out of his affection for him. He thought it would probably help him move on with life, that the past should stay in the past. In some cases though, love and passion don't die with time.
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