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Cat People Blu-ray
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Collector's Edition Shout Factory | 1982 | 119 min | Rated R | Jan 21, 2014 (4 Months)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FMGPWD2/ref=ox_ya_os_product
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A favourite from my teen years. Had the Giorgio Moroder soundtrack on LP and CD. Definite pick up.

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Finally!

I have an old review and DVD thumbnails here: Cat People (1982)

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Pool scene with Anette O'Toole.......... 'nuff said.
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A favourite from my teen years. Had the Giorgio Moroder soundtrack on LP and CD. Definite pick up.

I only have the LP. But it IS on the top of my "albums to rip to digital" pile.
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Any movie with David Bowie on the soundtrack is a masterpiece. Can't wait for this one.

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Has been on BD for years on an outdated transfer. I hope this is a new transfer!
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In North America? That's news to me. It was on HD DVD.

Edit: I see you are in Europe. I didn't know there was a region B disc.

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Yes, my error, it was a HD-DVD. Poor Universal transfer. I doubt the BD will be any different.
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Totally crazy movie and then some. I barely remember it, other than it's crazy. Worth a rent, I suppose, but since Shout BD's are pretty much impossible to rent... mad.gif

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Yes, my error, it was a HD-DVD. Poor Universal transfer. I doubt the BD will be any different.

They should not bother if it's not better then the DNR smear job.
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This is a bad sign, EU version:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Cat-People-Blu-ray/82002/#Review

Heavily processed images, I fear for the Shout version. Such an artistic film deserves better and no I am not referring to the nudity.
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I re-watched the HD-DVD version to see if it might be different then what is shown at beaver but yeah it appears to be the same master Shout is using. Seems nobody does direct comparisons with hd-dvd anymore so I guess it is only conjecture:

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film4/blu-ray_reviews_60/cat_people_blu-ray.htm

Maybe not as strong dnr/EE as the Beatles BDs but the images still look quite processed.
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I re-watched the HD-DVD version to see if it might be different then what is shown at beaver but yeah it appears to be the same master Shout is using. Seems nobody does direct comparisons with hd-dvd anymore so I guess it is only conjecture:

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film4/blu-ray_reviews_60/cat_people_blu-ray.htm

Maybe not as strong dnr/EE as the Beatles BDs but the images still look quite processed.

Then don't buy the BR or waste your time watching it.
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Then don't buy the BR or waste your time watching it.

That's what he's saying Secret.



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I wish I could have the transfer on the BD without the DNR. That would be quite nice. As is, no thanks. Not interested in Madame Tussaud's version.
(And Beaver/Tooze, after all this time, is still not able to see even quite obvious DNR?? So EE is the issue with this transfer? Jesus.)
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Watched this today. I think it looks pretty darn good. Clean and sharp with terrific colors and contrast. It could certainly look a whole lot worse, and many have.
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This is a hybrid between film and digital. It looks really good. No, it looks great!!!
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This is a hybrid between film and digital. It looks really good. No, it looks great!!!
It does not look like the film "Cat People". This film has a film texture, because it's film. It has grain and plenty of detail coming with it. The degraining ruins the film look and erases much fine detail. It turns people into wax puppets. In addition there are sharpening halos. What's so great about that?
Examples:
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/screenshot.php?movieid=61776&position=9 (Kinski's hair looks very unnatural, smoothed over)

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/screenshot.php?movieid=61776&position=2 (waxy skin, sharpening outlines, digital video camera look, not film)
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It does not look like the film "Cat People". This film has a film texture, because it's film. It has grain and plenty of detail coming with it. The degraining ruins the film look and erases much fine detail. It turns people into wax puppets. In addition there are sharpening halos. What's so great about that?

I understand your points. The experience of the BR is different than looking at selected screen captures.
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I'll stick with my HDDVD because some movies you just shouldn't double dip on.

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I understand your points. The experience of the BR is different than looking at selected screen captures.

What? you expect people to actually WATCH a movie before passing judgement on the quality? How unreasonable, and shame on you. rolleyes.gif
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Ah, the old "it looks totally different in motion" story. How many times have we heard that? People used that about the first edition of Patton for something like five years.
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It does not look like the film "Cat People". This film has a film texture, because it's film. It has grain and plenty of detail coming with it. The degraining ruins the film look and erases much fine detail. It turns people into wax puppets. In addition there are sharpening halos. What's so great about that?

I understand your points. The experience of the BR is different than looking at selected screen captures.
Not for me for this kind of problem. I have watched enough of this stuff in motion and on stills to know how it correlates on my system for my eyes. This kind of processing simply does not work for me and takes me out of the picture.
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Ah, the old "it looks totally different in motion" story.

Well...it happens. I see a lot of movies where screen grabs and the quality of the moving picture are not well correlated.

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I'd have to agree, it's not an open-and-shut case when it comes to screenshots. Though screenshots can be very strong indicators the transfer is poor or has serious problems. I could pick and choose a handful of stills from almost any modern Blu-ray and make it look fairly poor, cinematography is more art than science.
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Well...it happens. I see a lot of movies where screen grabs and the quality of the moving picture are not well correlated.

Only look at them for a comparison of A vs B. Example, I would be interested in seeing the old RoboCop vs the Remastered in 4K RoboCop.

IIRC, Stacey Spears commented some time back that most screen grabs were not done correctly because BD (and most other consumer video) is 16-235 while computers are 0-255.
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I could pick and choose a handful of stills from almost any modern Blu-ray and make it look fairly poor
In my experience Blu-ray.com don't do that. If every single grab they post is DNRed and EEed to hell, then that is exactly how the film looks. And, well, what else would one expect from a Universal catalog title?
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I could pick and choose a handful of stills from almost any modern Blu-ray and make it look fairly poor
In my experience Blu-ray.com don't do that. If every single grab they post is DNRed and EEed to hell, then that is exactly how the film looks. And, well, what else would one expect from a Universal catalog title?
I was speaking more in generalities than about this one transfer of Cat People. I don't expect much when I finally end up watching it. As you said, it's an older Universal movie. I doubt Universal would have ever released it themselves, so I guess it's better than nothing.
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I was speaking more in generalities than about this one transfer of Cat People. I don't expect much when I finally end up watching it. As you said, it's an older Universal movie. I doubt Universal would have ever released it themselves, so I guess it's better than nothing.

I agree that screenshots aren't always perfectly indicative of how good or bad a blu ray will look in motion, but that's rarely the case when you're talking about DNR and halos. Normally, if it's waxy on screenshots, it's waxy at home.

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